QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 20 2020, 10:25 AM)
my agar agar think most probably the constraint of higher initial and subsequent top up requirementsFundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D
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Jul 20 2020, 10:36 AM
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Jul 20 2020, 10:54 AM
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Jul 20 2020, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 19 2020, 07:36 PM) terima kasih everyone so finally i know the different with retail bond vs bond fund so i think i should just focus on bond not retail bond as i am very old half leg inside the coffin, i just want to preserve my saving last friday public bank call me say my FD mature ask me want to renew or not and their rate is like super gila till cannot accept. they offer me 2.5% say uncle very good jor, we cannot offer you like last time 4.8% yours already mature we renew can renew only 2.5%, other bank will give you less than 2%. anyway again another question, you see i try to buy this RM100 Amanah Raya Shariah Fund and it say platform fee is 0.05%. If i buy over with ASB i thought no platform fee? I try to understand this FSM as i not sure why ppl use it ![]() QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 19 2020, 07:40 PM) If you can buy at other channel with no additional, it's better that you do so. buy through e-unit trust lo, no platform fee, but e-unit trust user interface a bit lousy for me la, I don't mind pay FSM the 0.2% annual platform fee for the effort they made to give us all these fund information, tools and nice user interface laPlatform fee is unique to FSM. They introduced it back in 2013. hope I don't get some netizen which is opposite view to challenge me again |
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Jul 20 2020, 11:51 AM
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Jul 20 2020, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jul 20 2020, 11:26 AM) buy through e-unit trust lo, no platform fee, but e-unit trust user interface a bit lousy for me la, I don't mind pay FSM the 0.2% annual platform fee for the effort they made to give us all these fund information, tools and nice user interface la u need to read more book on how small fee 0.2% will affect ur income long termhope I don't get some netizen which is opposite view to challenge me again |
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Jul 20 2020, 02:39 PM
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Jul 20 2020, 02:56 PM
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Jul 20 2020, 03:00 PM
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Jul 20 2020, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 20 2020, 01:44 PM) yar loh....every RM100 000 will have an additional of RM200 charged per year....that is RM 16.70 pm (for a RM100k) if invested for 40 yrs .... RM 8000 less income (40 yrs period) so are books also mentioning,...do NOT invest in UT,...those 'hidden" unseen charges like trustee fees, annual mgmt fees, tax paid by FH to govmn prior to dividends can be easily already more than 1.x% already if you are invested in any of these,...do note "how small fee 0.2% will affect ur income long term" well, that is why alot of people suggested to go for a grounded property instead of a condo unit too condo may has RM300 pm maintenance charges ..... i hope you did not invest in any of those "higher fees" paying active mgmt investment options..... This post has been edited by yklooi: Jul 20 2020, 03:03 PM |
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Jul 20 2020, 04:12 PM
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just saw this....
we used to hear this frequently.......When the U.S. sneezes, the world catches a cold. now When the U.S. sneezes, the world catches a cold. What happens when it has severe COVID-19? http://english.astroawani.com/world-news/w...covid-19-251975 |
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Jul 20 2020, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 20 2020, 04:12 PM) just saw this.... Just wait and see.we used to hear this frequently.......When the U.S. sneezes, the world catches a cold. now When the U.S. sneezes, the world catches a cold. What happens when it has severe COVID-19? http://english.astroawani.com/world-news/w...covid-19-251975 |
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Jul 20 2020, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 20 2020, 02:39 PM) QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 20 2020, 03:00 PM) Fund offered for qualified investors only. i know wholesale fund is only made available to sophisticated investors with a minimum net worth requirement and these fund normally comes with higher initial amount of investment required, e.g. RM10k and aboveYou need to do "PRE-QUALIFICATION DECLARATION". Example: https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/fun...na-A-Shares-MYR Just to share i have reached out to fsm before and was told that those who do not meet the minimum requirement as "sophisticated investor" can actually still purchase a wholesale fund so long you know what you are investing in |
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Jul 20 2020, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 20 2020, 03:01 PM) yar loh.... u need to understand the concept of future value of moneyevery RM100 000 will have an additional of RM200 charged per year....that is RM 16.70 pm (for a RM100k) if invested for 40 yrs .... RM 8000 less income (40 yrs period) so are books also mentioning,...do NOT invest in UT,...those 'hidden" unseen charges like trustee fees, annual mgmt fees, tax paid by FH to govmn prior to dividends can be easily already more than 1.x% already if you are invested in any of these,...do note "how small fee 0.2% will affect ur income long term" well, that is why alot of people suggested to go for a grounded property instead of a condo unit too condo may has RM300 pm maintenance charges ..... i hope you did not invest in any of those "higher fees" paying active mgmt investment options..... 1.today u saved rm200pm is not same value with 2030 rm200 2.rm200 can be compounded with x% yrly and down the round its like 40 yr is not rm8000 |
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Jul 20 2020, 07:25 PM
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Jul 20 2020, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 20 2020, 07:21 PM) u need to understand the concept of future value of money you need to understand the example....1.today u saved rm200pm is not same value with 2030 rm200 2.rm200 can be compounded with x% yrly and down the round its like 40 yr is not rm8000 the RM 100 000 for 40 yrs is meant you had taken out whatever "gains" you had yearly and yet only maintain the same value of RM100 000, thus RM200 pa will be charged if you want to take into the 'compounded effect of this RM200 with x% yrly and down the round its like 40 yr is not rm8000', then do a compounded effect calculation of the cumulative total yearly gain it gives too.... also do calculates as per GrumpyNooby's post "How much the same RM 200 worth in 2030?" no matter what the value it is.....YES, you are RIGHT for even a "small fee 0.2% will affect ur income long term" thus as per my earlier post....."i hope you did not invest in any of those "higher fees" paying active mgmt investment options....." if you really mind about the fees involved even ETF has some % of fees involved......this small fees will effect your income in the long run too ....thus what you mentioned is RIGHT, for fees will effect your income in the long run (no matter how small it is) QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 20 2020, 01:44 PM) this is just price less ..... This post has been edited by yklooi: Jul 20 2020, 07:47 PM wongmunkeong liked this post
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Jul 20 2020, 08:41 PM
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Just wondering how much u guys put in ratio UT vs FD(emergency fund)
I dont know if i am doing it right. My bank will always have 1 year emergency funds. Then the rest in UT(FSM) and stocks. Say salary 10% into FD, 80% UT, the rest 10% is stocks(for fun. |
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Jul 20 2020, 08:41 PM
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Jul 20 2020, 08:45 PM
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