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post Jul 14 2020, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 14 2020, 08:09 PM)
MYR 0.5965
Latest NAV Price (Jul 13, 2020)

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/fun...ian-Income-Fund

Which date price you seek for?
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I see. I check at around 6pm it is still stuck at 9 july. I tot it got discontinued o something. Haha. Silly me. Thanks ya

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post Jul 14 2020, 10:57 PM

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Im new to FSM and interested in in the TA global technology fund as i trust the company that the fund is going for. Looking at the various fee, other than the sales charges, the total recurring annual fee are shown under annual expense ratio? Which in this case the total annual fee that i should care about is 1.87% only? Is the annual expense ratio the final figure or need to add up other fee as well?
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post Jul 14 2020, 10:59 PM

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post Jul 15 2020, 07:20 PM

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just numbers fun....

if having had any of these funds for a year.....
if in the next 10 yrs if these funds are having 0% ROI, rolleyes.gif
still can get about 5% pa IRR.... biggrin.gif mega_shok.gif


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post Jul 15 2020, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 15 2020, 07:20 PM)
just numbers fun....

if having had any of these funds for a year.....
if in the next 10 yrs if these funds are having 0% ROI,  rolleyes.gif
still can get about 5% pa IRR.... biggrin.gif  mega_shok.gif
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WOW,...look at that MALAYSIA fund rclxm9.gif bruce.gif bruce.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 15 2020, 07:20 PM)
just numbers fun....

if having had any of these funds for a year.....
if in the next 10 yrs if these funds are having 0% ROI,  rolleyes.gif
still can get about 5% pa IRR.... biggrin.gif  mega_shok.gif
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heheh U assuming 0, not -ve next 10 years XD
U & i have seen -ves before so.. bangwall.gif
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post Jul 16 2020, 10:58 AM

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received this from PMO....asking
Are you a speculator or an investor?
hmm.gif confused.gif
well, i think i am a mutant/hybrid species at times.



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post Jul 16 2020, 10:59 AM

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post Jul 16 2020, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 16 2020, 10:58 AM)
received this from PMO....asking
Are you a speculator or an investor?
hmm.gif  confused.gif
well, i think i am a mutant/hybrid species at times.
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no rules say investor cannot make a quick buck, time the market and cannot take higher risk laugh.gif

they only massage the narrative to suit their sales pitch.

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post Jul 16 2020, 11:55 AM

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finally china seems like losing the steam
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post Jul 16 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jul 16 2020, 12:55 PM)
finally china seems like losing the steam
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It get me worried as I just top up early July.
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post Jul 16 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 15 2020, 07:22 PM)
WOW,...look at that MALAYSIA fund  rclxm9.gif  bruce.gif  bruce.gif
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so nice lo, the Kenanga Growth Opportunities, United Malaysian & PMB Shariah Growth Fund all hold huge chunk in local glove counter.

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Jul 16 2020, 12:21 PM)
It get me worried as I just top up early July.
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Which fund?

If it dip big, top again, preferably bigger chunk. This is what I will do.
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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Jul 16 2020, 12:30 PM)
so nice lo, the Kenanga Growth Opportunities, United Malaysian & PMB Shariah Growth Fund all hold huge chunk in local glove counter.
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i noticed that these 2 funds had most of their up trends gains % made before the Covid19, thus that huge chuck in local glove counter "may" not be the only factor.
(started from July 2019)

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post Jul 16 2020, 02:25 PM

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Can someone help me to understand the EPF investment through FSM platform.
There is a note in EPF website that the investment sum will be locked for 3 months after purchase. I am wondering if we buy and sell the funds let's say within one month, will the whole amount still be locked by EPF or we can repurchase anytime after selling? Thanks Gurus
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post Jul 16 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ruffell @ Jul 16 2020, 02:25 PM)
Can someone help me to understand the EPF investment through FSM platform.
There is a note in EPF website that the investment sum will be locked for 3 months after purchase. I am wondering if we buy and sell the funds let's say within one month, will the whole amount still be locked by EPF or we can repurchase anytime after selling? Thanks Gurus
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After you have redeemed the investment, that fund will not be made available to you for reinvestment until the next cycle which is refreshed every 3 months. The way epf-mis counts it is from the first day you made investment. E.g;

1st july: buy rhb big cap ( first investment)
16th july; buy principal greater china

And you decide to redeem rhb big cap on 17th july, you will not be able to reinvest that fund again until 1st of july + 3 months.

For clarity, if you decide to redeem principal greater china on 20th august for example, you will be also be unablento reinvest that amount back until 1st july + 3 months

How to avoid this? Switch the fund instead of reedeming it. My strategy is switching back and forth from equity to bond taking advantage of the 0% sales charge and 0% switching fee( only for principal and kenanga), RHB still has rm25 fee.

Another thing is, please also understand the math involved in the calculation to determine the amount allowed to be invested. If let say you are elligible for 70k on this cycle and invested all of it in the beginning before deciding to redeem 30k out of the investment. That whole 30k will not be elligible directly in the next cycle, for example only 30% of that 30) can be invested directly in the next cycle.

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post Jul 16 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jul 16 2020, 03:07 PM)
After you have redeemed the investment, that fund will not be made available to you for reinvestment until the next cycle which is refreshed every 3 months. The way epf-mis counts it is from the first day you made investment. E.g;

1st july: buy rhb big cap ( first investment)
16th july; buy principal greater china

And you decide to redeem rhb big cap on 17th july, you will not be able to reinvest that fund again until 1st of july + 3 months.

For clarity, if you decide to redeem principal greater china on 20th august for example, you will be also be unablento reinvest that amount back until 1st july + 3 months

How to avoid this? Switch the fund instead of reedeming it. My strategy is switching back and forth from equity to bond taking advantage of the 0% sales charge and 0% switching fee( only for principal and kenanga), RHB still has rm25 fee.

Another thing is, please also understand the math involved in the calculation to determine the amount allowed to be invested. If let say you are elligible for 70k on this cycle and invested all of it in the beginning before deciding to redeem 30k out of the investment. That whole 30k will not be elligible directly in the next cycle, for example only 30% of that 30) can be invested directly in the next cycle.
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Thank you for the reply and suggestion. It really helps a lot to those who are new to EPF investment.
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post Jul 16 2020, 04:07 PM

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Over RM90mil lost to investment scams so far this year, says Bukit Aman

“There are also cases where the URL links are valid investments but the syndicates will take advantage of their victims by not funnelling their investments to their intended destinations, ” he said.
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...says-bukit-aman


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post Jul 17 2020, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Jul 16 2020, 12:21 PM)
It get me worried as I just top up early July.
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Macam gg.

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