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post Dec 25 2018, 10:35 AM

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Welcome to the bear market!
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post Dec 25 2018, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 25 2018, 10:52 AM)
yes,.... rclxm9.gif

for some would points out that, for the past 10 yrs, after every big drops, it recovered with a vengeance.

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post Dec 25 2018, 11:25 AM

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What do you guys think of Asnita bond fund and amdynamic bond fund ?
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post Dec 28 2018, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 28 2018, 11:18 PM)
finally.... someone I can see eye to eye....

from beginning of March, I been objecting DCA for year 2018, since the trend is not going to be good. those who DCA all the way till now, any EQ fund will bleed like mad.

I see no meaning when the market is on general downtrend, you still put money into it and hoping to bounce back eventually and what make the most obvious point to stop in EQ is that the 10 year cycle and political instability and the trade war as well....

DCA in such high volatility period is so adventurous and dangerous...
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It is not though, if a person is no expert at timing the market and has no immediate use of the funds invested. No one has discovered any other formula for investing which can be used with so much confidence of success regardless of what may happen to security prices.

However , please do note that this is most applicable for broad market investing such as ETFs. Cause if the active fund you are holding has a bad manager and higher expense fees, then it will be worse.

Maybe i speak for myself but i think people do not hope for it to bounce back immediately but as long as it is going down, it is still a price cheaper than the day before.

If you guys who can time the market , please do teach me too ! i also would like to enter at the bottom and sell at the peak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/27/the-inspiri...timer-ever.html
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post Dec 29 2018, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Dec 29 2018, 12:53 AM)
What are you saying? That if a person is no expert at timing, it is good? That's not the case, as I already pointed out, with examples.

My point is, if it's not already clear, is cost-averaging is not a guarantee because there are pitfalls you need to be aware of.
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That is exactly what I am saying. The average(and most 'pro' investors can't time the market . Hence strong discipline for DCA is proven to be good .

5 years is still quite a short horizon. And maybe I am mistaken but pretty sure the result would not be the same if DCA every month compared to a 5 year return chart.

Oh well, I agree with you regarding the certain bad funds as well but I also can bring up the best example. Just the s&p 500 .

Can try checking out Benjamin Graham's book

Ps, I agree there are certain pitfalls as you mentioned , DCA is most deal for ETFs or broad index funds . I can only tell you the result when going to retire biggrin.gif



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post Dec 29 2018, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 29 2018, 09:03 AM)
don't be me wrong.... I support DCA.

and yes... no one can time the market.... but we can know the market trend slightly...

I mean 2018.... when the street starting to ask about recession... econ down.....

that's the time you have to stop most of the investment but going for safe investment.
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I agree too ! That's why it's healthy to have a ratio of bond funds . It's mostly for people who cant take the fluctuations of the markets and to prevent people from buying high and selling low.


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post Dec 29 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 29 2018, 09:54 PM)
besiegetank

Judging from the opinion of howszat and jorgsacul, it is inappropriate to perform DCA in the severe market downtrend, and they suggest to stop DCA.

Probably, they think that after the end of market downtrend, the total investment value has significantly shrunk.

That is why I am asking howszat the proper way to perform DCA. smile.gif
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Exaclty, but when can you tell the end of the market downtrend
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post Dec 30 2018, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 30 2018, 09:59 PM)
DCA is simple. Put in fixed amount of money every month regardless market is cheap or expensive.
Actually both helps.
Time in the market and timing the market can do wonders.
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Exactly, if you feel the market is cheaper than usual, increase your normal allotment so in a way you can 'time' the market !
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post Jan 3 2019, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jan 3 2019, 12:33 PM)
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/02/apple-warns...q1-results.html
Looks like TA GlobalTech is going to take a beating from this. Apple is their no 1 holdings.
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Yeah, bad news after bad news.
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post Jan 9 2019, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 9 2019, 11:29 AM)
Ponzi 2 Cash 19% at Nov 18
KGF cash at 18% at November 18
ES Equity income also around 18% cash at November 18

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Yeah its a good indicator of what the fund manager's think.

However i am not a fan of them putting aside cash as my belief is i put my money in their funds to work in equities.
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post Jan 9 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 9 2019, 01:54 PM)
its ok ma.. later tio burn how. lol

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I keep cash my own self ma, fund keep for me they charge almost 2% fee every month
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post Jan 11 2019, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jan 11 2019, 11:26 AM)
Not really under water though, and if you expect worse to come, this might be a good opportunity to get out. Just wondering what most people here think. Is this just a temporary reprieve before things get worse or a resumption of the bull market?
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Quite hard to time the market though..
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post Jan 13 2019, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 13 2019, 11:12 AM)
Is is because the thread is being pinned up or what?
The number of posts have been decreased a lot? Like poor response!
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Normal when market not doing well, look at the bitcoin and crypto thread last time and today
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post Jan 13 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 13 2019, 01:35 PM)
What I meant is that since yesterday there was an event going on?
I was expecting somebody to share more.
Perhaps this year event is also dull too! hmm.gif
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Oh oops ! Maybe the KL one next week will have more people from LYN
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post Jan 18 2019, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 18 2019, 03:46 PM)
I took opportunity of Dec dip.  Awaiting another such dip. brows.gif
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Nice! Which funds did you top up
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post Jan 22 2019, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 22 2019, 09:27 AM)
Trade war ending SOON?
US won?

jump into the EQ mkts now?

There has been an unexpected development in the US-China trade war. Chinese trade officials apparently offered a huge concession earlier this month: a promise to completely eliminate its trade surplus...

Please credit and share this article with others using this link:
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion...erring#cxrecs_s
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Last I read that the biggest hurdle is regarding IP..

Hope the end of the trade war is near for all our sakes
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post Jan 23 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 23 2019, 10:32 AM)
Could be another reason of underperformance by Ponzi 2.0
Just my 2 cents!
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Yeah, I disagree with fund holding high cash position to anticipate a downturn , best example, they missed the run up for the last 2 weeks sad.gif
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eh, unpinned already , that was quick
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post Jan 24 2019, 06:58 PM

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My turn to be unable to login FSM via Android app
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post Jan 26 2019, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 26 2019, 08:53 AM)
Your opportunity might coming sooner than you think again.. then again, it's been opportunity since early 2018.. lol
US gomen re open and Trump gonna have lots of things to tweet..

Gotta agree good opportunity does not come often.. I come from stock market so used to seeing opportunities comes fast and goes faster...

Don't sweat about it.. here are public forum, we share our views.. don't like it.. fine..you don't shove yours and I kept mine myself..
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+1 regarding opposing views.. I agree as long as you are young and have a stable income , a bear market/recession is good

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