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Dec 25 2018, 10:35 AM
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Welcome to the bear market!
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Dec 25 2018, 11:07 AM
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Dec 25 2018, 11:25 AM
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What do you guys think of Asnita bond fund and amdynamic bond fund ?
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Dec 28 2018, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 28 2018, 11:18 PM) finally.... someone I can see eye to eye.... It is not though, if a person is no expert at timing the market and has no immediate use of the funds invested. No one has discovered any other formula for investing which can be used with so much confidence of success regardless of what may happen to security prices.from beginning of March, I been objecting DCA for year 2018, since the trend is not going to be good. those who DCA all the way till now, any EQ fund will bleed like mad. I see no meaning when the market is on general downtrend, you still put money into it and hoping to bounce back eventually and what make the most obvious point to stop in EQ is that the 10 year cycle and political instability and the trade war as well.... DCA in such high volatility period is so adventurous and dangerous... However , please do note that this is most applicable for broad market investing such as ETFs. Cause if the active fund you are holding has a bad manager and higher expense fees, then it will be worse. Maybe i speak for myself but i think people do not hope for it to bounce back immediately but as long as it is going down, it is still a price cheaper than the day before. If you guys who can time the market , please do teach me too ! i also would like to enter at the bottom and sell at the peak. https://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/27/the-inspiri...timer-ever.html |
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Dec 29 2018, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(howszat @ Dec 29 2018, 12:53 AM) What are you saying? That if a person is no expert at timing, it is good? That's not the case, as I already pointed out, with examples. That is exactly what I am saying. The average(and most 'pro' investors can't time the market . Hence strong discipline for DCA is proven to be good .My point is, if it's not already clear, is cost-averaging is not a guarantee because there are pitfalls you need to be aware of. 5 years is still quite a short horizon. And maybe I am mistaken but pretty sure the result would not be the same if DCA every month compared to a 5 year return chart. Oh well, I agree with you regarding the certain bad funds as well but I also can bring up the best example. Just the s&p 500 . Can try checking out Benjamin Graham's book Ps, I agree there are certain pitfalls as you mentioned , DCA is most deal for ETFs or broad index funds . I can only tell you the result when going to retire |
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Dec 29 2018, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 29 2018, 09:03 AM) don't be me wrong.... I support DCA. I agree too ! That's why it's healthy to have a ratio of bond funds . It's mostly for people who cant take the fluctuations of the markets and to prevent people from buying high and selling low. and yes... no one can time the market.... but we can know the market trend slightly... I mean 2018.... when the street starting to ask about recession... econ down..... that's the time you have to stop most of the investment but going for safe investment. |
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Dec 29 2018, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 29 2018, 09:54 PM) besiegetank Exaclty, but when can you tell the end of the market downtrendJudging from the opinion of howszat and jorgsacul, it is inappropriate to perform DCA in the severe market downtrend, and they suggest to stop DCA. Probably, they think that after the end of market downtrend, the total investment value has significantly shrunk. That is why I am asking howszat the proper way to perform DCA. |
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Dec 30 2018, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 30 2018, 09:59 PM) DCA is simple. Put in fixed amount of money every month regardless market is cheap or expensive. Exactly, if you feel the market is cheaper than usual, increase your normal allotment so in a way you can 'time' the market !Actually both helps. Time in the market and timing the market can do wonders. |
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Jan 3 2019, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Drian @ Jan 3 2019, 12:33 PM) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/02/apple-warns...q1-results.html Yeah, bad news after bad news.Looks like TA GlobalTech is going to take a beating from this. Apple is their no 1 holdings. |
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Jan 9 2019, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 9 2019, 11:29 AM) Ponzi 2 Cash 19% at Nov 18 Yeah its a good indicator of what the fund manager's think. KGF cash at 18% at November 18 ES Equity income also around 18% cash at November 18 However i am not a fan of them putting aside cash as my belief is i put my money in their funds to work in equities. |
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Jan 9 2019, 02:53 PM
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Jan 11 2019, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jan 11 2019, 11:26 AM) Not really under water though, and if you expect worse to come, this might be a good opportunity to get out. Just wondering what most people here think. Is this just a temporary reprieve before things get worse or a resumption of the bull market? Quite hard to time the market though.. |
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Jan 13 2019, 01:32 PM
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Jan 13 2019, 01:48 PM
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Jan 18 2019, 04:29 PM
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Jan 22 2019, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 22 2019, 09:27 AM) Trade war ending SOON? Last I read that the biggest hurdle is regarding IP..US won? jump into the EQ mkts now? There has been an unexpected development in the US-China trade war. Chinese trade officials apparently offered a huge concession earlier this month: a promise to completely eliminate its trade surplus... Please credit and share this article with others using this link: https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion...erring#cxrecs_s Hope the end of the trade war is near for all our sakes |
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Jan 23 2019, 11:09 AM
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Jan 23 2019, 08:07 PM
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eh, unpinned already , that was quick
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Jan 24 2019, 06:58 PM
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My turn to be unable to login FSM via Android app
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Jan 26 2019, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Jan 26 2019, 08:53 AM) Your opportunity might coming sooner than you think again.. then again, it's been opportunity since early 2018.. lol +1 regarding opposing views.. I agree as long as you are young and have a stable income , a bear market/recession is goodUS gomen re open and Trump gonna have lots of things to tweet.. Gotta agree good opportunity does not come often.. I come from stock market so used to seeing opportunities comes fast and goes faster... Don't sweat about it.. here are public forum, we share our views.. don't like it.. fine..you don't shove yours and I kept mine myself.. |
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