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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Oct 23 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:09 AM)
Hi guys!

Interested to invest in UT.

Probably go for higher risk one as my plan is to put 30% in FSM and 70% in fd

i wan start my account soon. maybe start with just a small amount of money.

Is this 3 ok?
trying to diversify in different market segment
1)cimb asia pacific dynamic income fund
2) cimb greater china
3) eastspring investment global emerging market
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The general rule is 100 - your age to determine "optimal" share of equity/fixed-income

So if your age is 30, you should have 70% in equity

FD is considered cash instrument, keep 6 months worth of your monthly salary there, and use the rest for investment
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post Oct 23 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Oct 23 2017, 09:24 AM)
Thx for the information.
Yea currently have some amount of money saved up in fd.
just started working 2 years.
am holding some small amount of shares too.

Now venturing into UT.
not sure is the correct time or not.

Im not a high risk investor nor am i a play safe investor (all fd).
i prefer medium risks
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You can consider good fixed-income mutual funds such as Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund, or Affin Hwang Select Income fund if you are of conservative type

For the equity part, you can pick those of high Sharpe Ratio, with broad and diversified exposure to various markets (US, Europe, China, etc.). Those of defensive nature such as REITs and dividend funds are good choices too

For UT investing, perseverance is very important. Buy systematically, and re-balance from time to time. Never fear a downturn, those are the time your purchase will bring greater future return

Good luck!
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post Oct 23 2017, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Oct 23 2017, 10:06 AM)
That message is so 2000s!  biggrin.gif
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May be we can ask him to preach about frugality next time rclxm9.gif
Kokman
post Oct 24 2017, 01:39 PM

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Don't panic, bajet 2018 announcement coming soon
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post Oct 24 2017, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Oct 24 2017, 06:53 PM)
Wow it said 30 Oct. Way longer than T+4. KUTNETF and CIMGRCH
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You can email to ask them their customer service is very good. They reply emails within the same day.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 24 2017, 02:31 PM)
Interpac Dana Safi and Dynamic.  drool.gif
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I slowly accumulated some KAF Vision Fund. For long term holding purpose also.
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post Oct 24 2017, 08:14 PM

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Why some of my post disappeared?
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post Oct 24 2017, 08:37 PM

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Attached Image

You can use this CNBC world heat map to get a feel of how your broadly diversified equity portfolio is moving now.
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post Oct 25 2017, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 25 2017, 09:18 AM)
algozen said so.... biggrin.gif

I was actually looking at the FSM valuation report, compared it to its recent run....
at >10% port....balls sweaty.... moved to less volatile Reits for temp parking

btw,....do have a look at Nikko Am Div Eq.....nice performance + FSM valuation for Spore is extremely enticing
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I am wondering, what is algozen?
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post Oct 25 2017, 10:15 AM

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Any idea where to get raw data of those market index? I am thinking to build a heat map tool for visualizing last 1Y, 6m, 3m, etc., changes. Seems not possible to download from google/yahoo finance
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post Oct 25 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 25 2017, 10:16 AM)
Investing.com?
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Ok thanks
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post Oct 25 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Tylerlee @ Oct 25 2017, 07:51 PM)
Hi, I am new member to Lowyat.net. Just open my FSM account few weeks ago and done some research on unit trust... (still new to unit trust thingy...)

I have some questions to ask sifu here,

Below are unit trusts I am planning to get into, risk profiling questionnaire showing I am "moderate aggressive ":

1. Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund 10%
2. RHB Asian Income Fund 10%
3. CIMB Principal Global Titan Fund 22.5%
4. CIMB Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund 22.5%
5. Kenanga Growth Fund 10%
6. TA Global Technology Fund 10%
7. Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Japan) Quantum Fund 15%

My plan is to distribute about 20% in Fixed Income and Balanced Fund and the remaining in Equity Funds.

Any suggestions or comments?
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Good combination. A thing to be cautious is the portfolio is rather heavyweight on Asia Pacific equities.
Kokman
post Oct 26 2017, 04:11 PM

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How to access this feature in Morningstar? Need subscription?
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 27 2017, 03:47 AM)
Problem is , what is the competition?

I don't see FSM offering any other Global Tech based funds.
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Exactly. To invest in the fund means we want to diversify into technology sectors. Although it is not outperforming the benchmark (for whatever reasons), it has a rather "higher" return compare to other asset class.

If you have another choice, go for those which outperform the index. If you don't include it for diversification reasons, as long as its risk-return is good.
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ Oct 27 2017, 10:37 AM)
I am still fresh on this investment.

Still studying this tread...... but so sorry i just cant wait to ask:

1. Manage portfolio = auto pilot mode?
2. Is it a good idea for a newbie to put the $ in manage portfolio? Since no idea where to put $ into which fund.
3. Whats the different between UT & Fund?
4. A fund is worth to invest or not, is it can only forecast based on the history? or may be just like share market, says when out of sudden CEO resign, then the fund value will drop alot? (dont feel it is just like gambling or luck?)
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There are few things good about the managed portfolio: you can go autopilot by just choosing the risk level you want, no hassle of picking the funds. Another thing is portfolio management: switching funds is rather troublesome if you do not know how to do it and FSM helps you switch funds automatically within the managed portfolio. Think of managed portfolio as a balanced fund of funds. They are also full time people working on your portfolio based on their market insights & analysis.

Diversification is the key, if you have 20 stocks in your fund portfolio, even 1 company has CEO problem will not damage the value of the entire fund. The managers working full time for the fund is at a better position to make decision to prevent fund value from being damage, much better than the part-time Joe like me. But it is very important to buy fund of good manager.

Happy investing.
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 27 2017, 10:51 AM)
The video presenter suggested two alternatives to UTF for growing wealth:

1) Set up your own business.  doh.gif Duh! Then that would not be classified as passive income. That would be active income.

2) Buy ETF. If ETF is available and accessible easily like across the causeway, sudah lama gua cabut beli ETF loh! When I say accessible, it include easy availability of essential comparison tools such as Std-Dev, ROI, corr-coeff, easy switching bla bla bla. Not what we have here in Malaysia, that is, the ETFs are all stand alone units.

Hence, these presenter are typically blurting out info that they hear, read or seen elsewhere in a foreign context without taking into the local context. So typical of
"know little bit, act like a pro" mentality.

Xuzen
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Fully agree.

A thing to mention here is: UT investing is a means to build wealth, we either sustain our wealth level (if we can catch up with the inflation rate) or becomes wealthier than what we have now (if we can outperform the inflation rate). This is very important, if we cannot achieve it, how can we become rich? So UT investing is an important thing to retire rich and well. No doubt.

Then is the leverage, if we want to be rich we need to use leverage (properly!). That's the phase that comes after the stage we know how to build wealth with confidence. There comes also home buyer, or business at scale that loans are used properly. Those are some example for getting rich (before retirement?)

I do not agree what the reporter said either. He must not belittle UT investing, especially on a platform where funds of broad markets could be easily accessed, and at a substantially low front loading fees.

Happy investing!
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post Oct 27 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(besiegetank @ Oct 27 2017, 11:38 AM)
I don't think UT is the way to go to get rich though, to sustain your wealth then yes. I think most of us use UT as a retirement tool. To get rich now it will be faster if you invest or trade in stocks...
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Invest in stocks properly by margin, yes

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post Oct 28 2017, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 27 2017, 10:37 PM)
Warning! Old man ranting ahead... ranting.gif
I blame nowadays the internet for perpetuating a lie that everyone can or must be rich. Or that everyone should do business or some sort of entrepreneur endeavour. What the internet conveniently left out is that rich people is like a pyramid, only a few are rich and the majority are poor with the middle group simply being middle income people.

If you are not rich, I mean, so be it... it is not a crime nor a death knell. Unlike what Jack Ma said, you do not have to be rich to live comfortably. I am certainly rich compared to the majority below me demographically and I am certainly poor compared to the few very rich above me in the pyramid scheme of things.

Am I an entrepreneur? Am I a business man? No, I am neither. I am just a salary man who build wealth the old fashion way... that is I spend less than what I earn and invest the rest. Can I be a business man? I doubt so. Can I be an entrepreneur? No way. Do I need to buy the BMW or live in a large mansion to be happy? No. Be contented and be happy.

To me, UTF is a good tool for regular Joe like me to accumulate wealth in a safe and easily accessible way in a sense I do not need to come out with a large capital outlay. I can invest in sum that I am comfortable with. I can certainly stop at anytime I want without penalty. And I can liquidate the fund at anytime I want. What sort of investment tool can you think off that can offer such freedom or flexibility?

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Fully ageee with you

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post Oct 28 2017, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 12:31 AM)
Come I pour cold water
- ETF whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Good point. Even better is the leveraged buy of ETF. Unfortunately we only have 3 choices on Bursa: Malaysia, ASEAN, and China. Very Asian centric.

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post Oct 28 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Oct 28 2017, 02:16 PM)
you invested both FSM SG & ETF?
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Possible to register and use FSM SG from Malaysia?
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post Oct 28 2017, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 28 2017, 08:06 PM)
Correction. I don't use FSM SG. I use POEMS SG. ETF future. Not now.
Of course. You can apply everything online without the need to have a SG bank account or step into SG. If you are willing to pay 0.1% platform fees per QUARTER to FSM SG. I am not. Hence I went for POEMS SG (their competitor with 0% service charge, 0% platform fees,  0% switching fee).

Note FSM SG managed portfolio is way cheaper than Malaysia as it only cost you 0.5%/year when you compare to FSM MY managed portfolio.
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Good tips. Thanks

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