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wongmunkeong
post Mar 9 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Mar 9 2018, 09:41 AM)
Your kind of mindset is what causes the correction to happen...

Why market will dip? Because of many investors dump. Why many investors dump? Because fear of market dip.
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psst.. it's a good thing, else people like us cant load up properly
don't let the cat out of the bag bro tongue.gif

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Mar 9 2018, 11:44 AM
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 9 2018, 11:23 AM)
lets the trills ride begins.....
U.S. President Donald Trump pressed ahead on Thursday with import tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent for aluminium but exempted Canada and Mexico ...
"If you don't want to pay tax, bring your plant to the USA," added Trump, flanked by steel and aluminium workers.

Plans for the tariffs, set to start in 15 days,

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-set...--business.html
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hmm.gif why the asian mkts not reacting badly this time round?

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post Mar 9 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 9 2018, 09:32 AM)
for sure economy will crash/reset ngam ngam every 10 years?
not 12 years? not 6 years? not 15 years?

if yes, i gotta get me that crystal ball of yours  laugh.gif
else
maybe it's NOT a sure thing and especially NOT ngam ngam every 10 years 
just clarifying for the sake of those who bulat bulat telan brows.gif
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Not tepat 10 years but more or less close to 10 years tongue.gif


QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 9 2018, 11:23 AM)
lets the trills ride begins.....
U.S. President Donald Trump pressed ahead on Thursday with import tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent for aluminium but exempted Canada and Mexico ...
"If you don't want to pay tax, bring your plant to the USA," added Trump, flanked by steel and aluminium workers.

Plans for the tariffs, set to start in 15 days,

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-set...--business.html
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Bagus. Mari. Marie.

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 9 2018, 11:25 AM)
psst.. it's a good thing, else people like us can load up properly
don't let the cat out of the bag bro  tongue.gif
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Precisely. My cash all rotting away.
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 9 2018, 11:35 AM)
Precisely. My cash all rotting away.
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heheh - gotta watch out for termites & fungus, them paper money easy prey to these (other than Geneva Gold, JJPTR, etc - tu.. $ owner punya pasal la heheh)
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post Mar 9 2018, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 9 2018, 11:28 AM)
hmm.gif why the asian mkts not reacting badly this time round?
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The initial dip is over and now waiting for the wave

It jz calm before the storm..
Trump mentioned the tariffs exclude their allies but no mention who are they


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TA global tech reach new high. Bravo!
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post Mar 9 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Mar 9 2018, 12:14 PM)
The initial dip is over and now waiting for the wave

It jz calm before the storm..
Trump mentioned the tariffs exclude their allies but no mention who are they
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canada and mexico exempted no? was in the news just now
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post Mar 9 2018, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Mar 9 2018, 01:14 PM)
canada and mexico exempted no? was in the news just now
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havent got time to read any news yet.
the latest i read is morning 7.30am

any news about asia?
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post Mar 9 2018, 02:05 PM

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kgf from 14 to 8... hmm.

where is the CNY and GE factor....
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post Mar 9 2018, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 9 2018, 02:05 PM)
managed port

-1.8%

kgf from 14 to 8... hmm.

where is the CNY and GE factor....
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CNY and GE factor loses to US forces.
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post Mar 9 2018, 02:35 PM

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This will be BIG but under the radar of the Western Media.

"Petrol-Yuan Trades starts on 26 March 2018 "
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See .....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we8zebrIRHk

Sifu ..... Your Comments and Prediction ( From the Crystal Ball ) ....LoL

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Cactus89
post Mar 9 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 9 2018, 02:05 PM)
managed port

-1.8%

kgf from 14 to 8... hmm.

where is the CNY and GE factor....
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If u checked their factsheet the reported MoM lost is merely -0.5% for February. They calculation is very misleading. My managed moderate aggresive recorded -2% ..
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post Mar 9 2018, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Mar 9 2018, 02:54 PM)
If u checked their factsheet the reported MoM lost is merely -0.5% for February. They calculation is very misleading. My managed  moderate aggresive recorded -2% ..
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pretty sure theirs is not inclusive of any service charge or fees charge towards your port.
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post Mar 9 2018, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Mar 9 2018, 02:54 PM)
If u checked their factsheet the reported MoM lost is merely -0.5% for February. They calculation is very misleading. My managed  moderate aggresive recorded -2% ..
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I am sure they did the calculation wrong! doh.gif

If you calculated the "weighted average of ROI" using the data in their performance table, MoM ROI for Aggressive is -2.1% and M.Aggressive is -1.8%.

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For aggressive portfolio, they reported MoM ROI is -0.9%, but 90% of the portfolio (equity portion) having -2.33%, so the reported value makes no sense, and logically wrong.


FSM oh FSM... what happened to u, not able to perform a simple calculation ?
How can i have confidence on your research article?




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post Mar 9 2018, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Mar 9 2018, 04:23 PM)
I am sure they did the calculation wrong!  doh.gif
 
If you calculated the "weighted average of ROI" using the data in their performance table, MoM ROI for Aggressive is -2.1% and M.Aggressive is -1.8%.

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For aggressive portfolio, they reported MoM ROI is -0.9%, but 90% of the portfolio (equity portion) having -2.33%,  so the reported value makes no sense, and logically wrong.
FSM oh FSM... what happened to u, not able to perform a simple calculation ?
How can i have confidence on your research article?
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the -0.9% is with respect to their original portfolio value (10k). Your calculation is with respect to previous month (31 Jan). So no, they are not wrong, you just comparing apple to orange biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Mar 9 2018, 04:29 PM)
the -0.9% is with respect to their original portfolio value (10k). Your calculation is with respect to previous month (31 Jan). So no, they are not wrong, you just comparing apple to orange  biggrin.gif
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i am not understand what u were trying to clarrify?

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The -0.9% is 1 month ROI intable above.
Everyone knows 1M ROI is respect to previous month (31 Jan), not to the original portfolio value.



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post Mar 9 2018, 04:46 PM

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now you know why I so frustrated le.

every Q charge some more.
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post Mar 9 2018, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 9 2018, 04:46 PM)
now you know why I so frustrated le.

every Q charge some more.
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They need to earn money to pay their employees as well.. They provide the service , customers have to pay for it whether it is success or failure..
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post Mar 9 2018, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Mar 8 2018, 10:13 PM)
Curious why 10 years = 1 full cycle?  hmm.gif
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Invest in stock/UT using money that u won't need for at least 2-3 years.
If that money can stay inside market for at least 1 full cycle (10 years) is the best lah.


The important point here is not how long is the full stock market cycle, but the main point here is that stay LONGER in market for AT LEAST the WHOLE cycle.
Anyway, historically, stock market's crash* MOSTLY happens every 10 years***.

* In economic terminology (i studied Engineering, info below are from my side readings),
- crash :>20% drops in relatively short period (around 1 week).
- bearish/recession : >20% drops from the peak, and stays for > 2months
- correction: 10% to 20% drops from the recent peak.

*** Recent market crash events:
- 2008 Global Financial Crisis
- 1997 Asian Financial Crisis
- 1987 October 19: Black Monday


QUOTE(ssl_lim @ Mar 8 2018, 11:42 PM)
Serious? Then need sell off all UT although still lost..I bought it start end of last year sad.gif
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Don't misunderstand...

In long term, market performs as big up-trending sinusoidal wave.

The reason to stay LONGER in market for AT LEAST the WHOLE cycle is:
- if u bought near peak, u can sell near the NEXT peak which u will have chance to meet if stay in the whole cycle. Imagine the up-trending sinusoidal wave....




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post Mar 9 2018, 07:57 PM

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My investment for fsm just start few year but at Ocbc bank is over 8 year .. thank God still perform quit smooth..

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