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[Ancient]-XinG-
post Dec 13 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(VJJCO @ Dec 13 2017, 03:14 PM)
I am new to this Forum (Just  started reading this Forum in Early 2017)

Started with FSM Managed Portfolio - Agressive Portfolio

Started in 31 May 2017
1. June Statement: -4.28% Loss
2. July Statement: 3.32% Profit
3. Sept Statement :3.16% Profit
4. October Statement: 6.86% Profit
5. November Statement: 3.67% Profit

So year to date so far averaging about 3.5% Profit... still less than FD ... IMHO ... maybe i should switch to Balanced Poftfolio ...
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INI APA MACHIAM.

Most of us here -4% at least.

And your port so damn young. Not even 1 year.

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Be happy with your port. Its done nicely.

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post Dec 13 2017, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(VJJCO @ Dec 13 2017, 04:14 PM)
I am new to this Forum (Just  started reading this Forum in Early 2017)

Started with FSM Managed Portfolio - Agressive Portfolio

Started in 31 May 2017
1. June Statement: -4.28% Loss
2. July Statement: 3.32% Profit
3. Sept Statement :3.16% Profit
4. October Statement: 6.86% Profit
5. November Statement: 3.67% Profit

So year to date so far averaging about 3.5% Profit... still less than FD ... IMHO ... maybe i should switch to Balanced Poftfolio ...
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Thank you all Seniors for your feedback and advice.

Really appreciate it!!

Will continue to learn and share along the way ...
j.passing.by
post Dec 13 2017, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 13 2017, 09:31 AM)
no one can time market but one can be market sensitive...?

if sensitive enough. like most of the people who exit to secure profit like last month. I wouldn't lost that much. and re enter back.

but this was a good lesson for me at least.

if given the same situation. I will not exit. but put more in. this year shit happen only when I enter a little earlier than it should.

meaning Im not market sensitive......

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2017, 09:36 AM)
hmm.gif market sensitive?
a new alternative word for timing the market with the use of emotion leading the charge?
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Maybe he meant being in tune with the market.

How to be in tune with the market and yet ignore all the noise surrounding it?
Use VA investment strategy.

VA (Value averaging) is a bit different from DCA. In VA, the amount to top-up is accordingly to the investment schedule and its shortfall.

The important thing about any strategy is not abandoning it half-way... that means you believed in the strategy and loyal to the fund you selected to invest.

What is a good fund to have that you can trust and stay loyal to it?
A fund that has a good 5 to 10 years track record... see those popular funds with nicknames in page 1.

For example, CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
5 Years Annualised ROI +16.70%
1 year return +23.28%

(See MorningStar website for more details.)

Its benchmark is straightforward... a straight line 8% growth.

While its investment strategy (according to its master prospectus) is allocating 70% to 98% into equities, it can also pull out all and "may invest all or a substantial portion of its assets in money market instruments to achieve the Fund’s investment objective in bearish or non-performing equity markets."

In short, it can allocate its assets dynamically... and hopefully in tune with its market.

So, if using VA into this fund:
1. The fund is mandated and allowed the fund manager to keep the fund in tune with the market.
2. VA purchasing keeps you in tune with your fund's volatility, by topping up more when it dips.

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Please note above fund was taken as a quick example. There are other criterias to determine and select a fund aside from its track record and returns.

Aside from its master propectus, its annual financial report should also be reviewed for its total asset size, and number of unitholders, and how diversified is the fund.




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post Dec 13 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 13 2017, 06:24 PM)
Maybe he meant being in tune with the market.

How to be in tune with the market and yet ignore all the noise surrounding it?
Use VA investment strategy.

VA (Value averaging) is a bit different from DCA. In VA, the amount to top-up is accordingly to the investment schedule and its shortfall.

The important thing about any strategy is not abandoning it half-way... that means you believed in the strategy and loyal to the fund you selected to invest.

What is a good fund to have that you can trust and stay loyal to it?
A fund that has a good 5 to 10 years track record... see those popular funds with nicknames in page 1.

For example, CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
5 Years Annualised ROI  +16.70%
1 year return +23.28%

(See MorningStar website for more details.)

Its benchmark is straightforward... a straight line 8% growth.

While its investment strategy (according to its master prospectus) is allocating 70% to 98% into equities, it can also pull out all and "may invest all or a substantial portion of its assets in money market instruments to achieve the Fund’s investment objective in bearish or non-performing equity markets."

In short, it can allocate its assets dynamically... and hopefully in tune with its market.

So, if using VA into this fund:
1. The fund is mandated and allowed the fund manager to keep the fund in tune with the market.
2. VA purchasing keeps you in tune with your fund's volatility, by topping up more when it dips.

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yea. this is what I mean... thanks for the insights

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post Dec 13 2017, 09:37 PM

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ahh just realise esther bond have distribution yesterday.
felt slightly weird when the loss for yesterday was 2% ++ for a bond fund
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post Dec 13 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(VJJCO @ Dec 13 2017, 03:14 PM)
I am new to this Forum (Just  started reading this Forum in Early 2017)

Started with FSM Managed Portfolio - Agressive Portfolio

Started in 31 May 2017
1. June Statement: -4.28% Loss
2. July Statement: 3.32% Profit
3. Sept Statement :3.16% Profit
4. October Statement: 6.86% Profit
5. November Statement: 3.67% Profit

So year to date so far averaging about 3.5% Profit... still less than FD ... IMHO ... maybe i should switch to Balanced Poftfolio ...
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That's MORE than FD because it's not even a full year
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post Dec 14 2017, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ Dec 13 2017, 02:27 PM)
PLan to invest some EPF approved fund via FSM.

May I know the major difference between FSM and via Agent? How much cost can we save?
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May I know the major difference between FSM and via Agent?
A wider range of funds: At Fundsupermart.com, you'll be able to gain access to a wide range of products from fund houses both locally and abroad.
an agent will most probably have a limited range of products he/she represent
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...l?articleNo=591

How much cost can we save?
Sales Charges for using EPF monies are capped at 3% for equities funds, thus the agent will most probably gets that amount
For FSM,.....the charges will range between 1% to 1.75% for equities funds....depending on the amount you are putting in.
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...-Programme-8873

just a note of caution....only some EPF approved UTs managed to have annualised returns that is better than 6%.


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post Dec 14 2017, 08:17 AM

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Fed Reserve hikes rate.
Asian market in joy today?
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post Dec 14 2017, 08:33 AM

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you wan fast gain go p2p lending la. or stocks. unit trusts are slow but steady if you do it right.
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post Dec 14 2017, 11:45 AM

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KLCI 1749 @ 10.30am
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QUOTE(kswee @ Dec 14 2017, 11:45 AM)
KLCI 1749 @ 10.30am
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for the ease and convenient of those on smartphone.....
up or down how many % ?
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post Dec 14 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 14 2017, 11:50 AM)
for the ease and convenient of those on smartphone.....
up or down how many % ?
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KLCI 0.65% green.

But the ACE index is 0.57% red.

Small Cap index is 0.55% green.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 14 2017, 12:50 PM)
for the ease and convenient of those on smartphone.....
up or down how many % ?
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Increase of 11.80points @ 0.68%
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post Dec 14 2017, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(kswee @ Dec 14 2017, 11:55 AM)
Increase of 11.80points @ 0.68%
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Hope there is a wave of renewed interest in Malaysian market by investors.


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post Dec 14 2017, 01:14 PM

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+15 lol
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post Dec 14 2017, 01:26 PM

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IDS benchmark is ACE? why their fund factsheet no say their benchmark one.. like kuat taipao ini IDS..
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post Dec 14 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 14 2017, 01:26 PM)
IDS benchmark is ACE? why their fund factsheet no say their benchmark one.. like kuat taipao ini IDS..
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Their benchmark is 6% per annum ... hmm.gif

Something happen? Why the sudden sharp drop of Hang Seng? hmm.gif 0.4% is 1 hour...

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post Dec 14 2017, 03:15 PM

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Any idea what "CS" means ?


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post Dec 14 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(jfleong @ Dec 14 2017, 03:15 PM)
Any idea what "CS" means ?
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stated in that website.....
CS
CD
XS
XD
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post Dec 14 2017, 03:19 PM

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Regarding income distribution
Say if I get RM100 in income distribution and chose to reinvest
Is it considered buying RM100 into the fund and sales charges applies?

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