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crazyfatt
post May 20 2020, 12:08 AM

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Helping fren ask in behalf. He just change from 9900k to amd 3950x + asus formula x570.

1. He wish to change the ram and what ram is recommened for ryzen system?
2. How to OC to get better performance ? (He is using full set watercooling.)
Hope can get some answer from all sifu. Thanks
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post May 21 2020, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 20 2020, 12:23 AM)
1. DDR4-3200 CL16 or DDR4-3600 CL18 . Unless you wanna import G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32GB DDR4-3600 CL16

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/326/1562...32GTZN-Overview

2. You can't OC much on Ryzen platform. Most samples can go 4.3Ghz. Read again, 16 cores with 4.3Ghz! It requires serious cooling.
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thanks for the reply. He watercool the rig and i guess cooling isn’t the matter. He did mention never see the boost 4.7 as advertise. So, i guess is it need some tweak on it.

Ram he’s asking fren from singapore to import tat trident Z neo 3600mhz cl16.
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post May 21 2020, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ May 21 2020, 02:28 PM)
how much is he spending to import?
some high specs sticks are available here (more if you wanna manually OC)
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can u recommend which model to buy ?
plan to get 4x8gb. so far only saw 3600mhz cl18
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post Oct 24 2020, 02:14 PM

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is it means order from amazon cheaper compare local ? warranty juz send back amazon ?
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post Nov 5 2020, 12:44 PM

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5900x or 5950x anyone got lobang get today ? pm pls
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post Nov 5 2020, 10:24 PM

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whr is the 5950x......
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post Dec 26 2020, 06:06 PM

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when is the 5nm and new mobo release ? can’t wait to test.
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post Dec 26 2020, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Dec 26 2020, 07:36 PM)
5mm and Ryzen 4 will be late 2021 with DDR5.
Either late Q4 2021 or 1H 2022

no point waiting so long if you need a PC now.
I wait for you tongue.gif
Long overdue for platform upgrade.
My Intel CPU still got bridge, no lake tongue.gif

Now, everything no stock, but if come 2021 CNY, Rocket Lake out, your problems not solved, maybe I need to plan Intel build laugh.gif
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Nah, I'm good with what i got now and just cant wait to be the white rat on AMD again. So far, i nvr met those weird bsod, crash etc which occurred from others. Guess I'm blessed bangwall.gif

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post Sep 23 2022, 11:55 AM

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any price eta for :
7900x
x670e rog
ddr5 ram 32gb (any recommendation to buy) ?

using aio 360 ryujin 1. is it need chg bracket ? where to buy if need ya.
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post Oct 24 2022, 11:02 PM

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struggling on amd or intel
plan x670e asus extreme and 7900x or 13900k asus hero.
any advice sifu ? currently using 5900x formula + 4090
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post Oct 24 2022, 11:05 PM

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i love amd coz mobo can be reuse in future but seems AM5 is not stable. shud wait longer to decide ?
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post Oct 24 2022, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 24 2022, 11:16 PM)
Your money, your decision. There are plenty of reviews out. You might be able to find issues on google as well.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/is-...s-fine.3779906/

Oh, and super long boot time.
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thx for sharing it. will try research more on it.
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post Oct 25 2022, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 25 2022, 02:00 PM)
Let's put it this way.

If you go with AM5 (i.e x670E), sure the platform would be supported until... perhaps say Zen 6, maybe even 7. That sounds like a long time, probably 5 years of upgrade options. Sounds nice on paper, but x670E is riddled with problems just like x370 was when it launched AM4. It was promised that x370 would support future AM4 based CPUs and it did, but not entirely.

Even the x370 boards that did finally support Zen 3 wasn't a smooth plug and play scenario, it required a lot of work arounds to get ahead of issues that shouldn't happen (Zen 1 CPUs had no USB drop outs, suddenly dropping in a Zen 3 CPU caused USB drop outs for example).

So we don't really know how AM5 would shape out in the future. AMD isn't your friend, they'd be more than incline to sell you x770 or x870 or whatever when the latest AM5-based Zen CPU gets released 5 years from now.

On the other hand LGA1700 is EOL now. But at least you can rest assured that z690 is a mostly stable platform and a 13900k will last you 3 years, easy. By then, you can decide again if AM5 has proven itself to be a stable platform or not to jump back into AMD.
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Thx for the info. will wait longer and decide coz intel need chg mobo for next gen.

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post Oct 25 2022, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 25 2022, 02:35 PM)
You planning to upgrade every gen? If so, then nothing is actually "future proof". AMD may require you to get x770 too when Zen 5 comes around, just so the problems from x670 be eradicated. That's the typical AMD procedure, release something new, sweep old shit under the rug and hope people forget.
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i from 9900k stick amd till now. every gen did upgrade but intel this time seems not so worthy and ddr5 ram still unstable.
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post Oct 25 2022, 03:38 PM

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i mean those ram announced but not yet appear in market to buy. guess now juz stick with 5900x first. tq for all the info.
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post Oct 25 2022, 04:02 PM

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itchy brain 🥲 convincing myself stay first. haha
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post Oct 25 2022, 09:54 PM

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i’m using 5900x+ asus formula mobo. randomly get issue processor suddenly drop to 500mhz. need shut down pc and restart only back to normal. wondering what’s prob 🥲
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post Oct 26 2022, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 26 2022, 04:36 PM)
This is an old windows power plan problem.

Too many variables to list how this has happened but the main culprits are:

1) Installing a Zen 3 CPU over a Zen 2 CPU without reinstalling Windows. The Zen 3 CPU can be stuck using the Ryzen power plan that was only meant for Zen 2.

2) A windows update in 2020 and 2021 changed how the stock windows power plan works with Zen 3 CPUs, this could error out and the OS is still telling the CPU to use the non-updated power plan.

3) Mobo reporting wrong voltage due to EDC bug (AGESA 1.2.0.6), Windows wrongly sets the CPU in the wrong power state.
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i did a reinstall windows last few months. will try to check the 2/3 mentioned. tq sifu. this is so annoying while gaming sudd drop to 500mhz

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post Oct 26 2022, 07:13 PM

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i tried installed or uninstall ryzen master also same. so weird. wondering is it got software conflict.

i got asus armory
logitech hub
icue
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post Oct 26 2022, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 26 2022, 09:36 PM)
iCUE keeps your CPU power hungry. Disable it from startup using task manager.
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noted. will try it

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