Shhh!! Can't bash Zen uarch as this never happen in 1000-3000-5000 series and they have spent too many years praising Zen while hitting Intel. For science sake I'd love to see if someone could replicate this phenomena with a 5800x3d and a Asus mobo.

Permanent damage on CPU & mobo? Note to self; never to buy 7000series + X570/B650/A620 mobos in the used market few years down the road.

How do u know it never happen? Have u used Zen before? Those lower than normal silicon. It may not lead to burnouts but induce other forms of platform instability. I did owned few of those zens in the past and I know how they behave normally and what will happened if the silicon is lousy.

Bruh, if the cookoff will happen all those reviewers would have jump on this a long time ago. I dunno.
Could the cookoff only related to Asus mobo and others no problem? I dunno.
Maybe Zen1,2,3 DOCP is using intel XMP so the SOC V setting is more conservative than EXPO way of driving more V into the CPU as the Asus one did.

Speaking of which, Part 3 of GN's coverage of the AMD Kaboom phenomenon, though this one is more editorial, and blasts ASUS for being a scumbag company throughout the whole debacle.



This post has been edited by solarmystic: May 12 2023, 03:02 AM

Jay2cents also fired Asus.

kitguru also "fired" asus (fired by)
https://www.kitguru.net/channel/generaltech...sitive-reviews/

ASUS UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’

Now in our 14th year as an independent technology publication, KitGuru has never been more shocked than when the person responsible for PR samples and budget for the UK posted publicly on one of our channels that they believed it was legal to buy positive reviews. The same sentiment has been expressed in a previous call with several ASUS personnel – followed by confusion on their part as we tried to explain that positive messaging was something that they would do with their advertising and promotions, but that we valued editorial integrity above everything else. This was not the behaviour and mentality that we had come to believe existed in ASUS, since it started to make big waves in the motherboard sector back in the mid-1990s, so we filed it away.

...

Increased pressure to say positive things and public statements from the person responsible for sampling and related budgets, saying that they were “Not expecting any coverage of ASUS at CES 2023, because KitGuru isn’t being paid”. Frankly, it was disgusting to see and so untrue as to be actionable. But that’s not who we are as a company. No one tells us what to cover. Despite this increasingly negative, non-customer-supporting view being expressed by ASUS, we still covered their 540Hz monitor, the Noctua-enabled RTX 4080 and their latest laptop products. Why? Because those stories are genuinely interesting for you – our reader – and our editorial focus is dictated by readers – not manufacturers.

Asus responds!
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-resp...ound-am5-issues

Should've done this right from the start instead of resorting to cloak and dagger BS with the userbase. Their rep is sullied now.

Reputation damage is one thing what about real physical damage on those systems that havent failed yet but could already have long term degradation?

Asus arent the only one guilty
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen...os-updates.html

Looks like all parties including Amd are not telling the whole truth regarding the soc voltages.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/nicht-nur-asus-c...s-master-x670e/


Betcha the soc will be more than just 1.3v to keep the platform stable when engaging Expo.

This post has been edited by targon: May 19 2023, 01:09 AM

EXPO iinm is quite similar to XMP rite?

However DDR5 running on XMP will default to run @1.35V and for overclocks it could do 1.45V. So DDR5 could run at high voltages which is why I cant understand how would it burn the CPU unless EXPO tech was badly designed and AMD buggered it to run at 1.30V while XMP has a lot more headroom.

Some updates

Min requirement to run latest pc games..

Just in..

Faster go 'gamer meld' youtube

Oh crap, ages ago, uncle bought two Klevv Bolt XR 3600Mhz 16GB x2 RAM for my ryzen system. All is good, these two DIMMs are dual rank Hynix DJR

This month, uncle bought another set from same seller and same RAM model.
Imagine uncle surprise when uncle discovered the two new DIMMs are single rank Hynix DJR.

How well will mixing these single ranks and dual ranks DIMMs do in Ryzen?


Updates:
1) Seem like cannot enable "PowerDown Mode" anymore. Windows IRQ Not Equal blue screen pop up if it is enabled with all four DIMMs installed.

2) Memory bandwidth and latency more or less same as before.

3) -.- The single rank DIMM cannot be clocked down to CL 16...........this is strange considering the dual rank DIMM can clocked down to CL16 without issue. CL 17 on new single rank seem unstable?

4) Dual rank tRFC can be lowered to 471, the new single rank only can be lowered to 550 ? Aduh....need to sync higher......

5) 1T command rate still works with GearDown mode disabled.

6) Seem like all DIMMs can be clocked to 3733Mhz stable....


Question, how much power DRAM consume without "PowerDown Mode" enabled? This machine mostly acts as server standby awaiting task to process remotely.

This post has been edited by JohnLai: May 30 2023, 09:34 PM

Latest Asus BIOS update for X670E mobo fixed the cold boot time. Default is like 20-40 sec, now 5 sec haha

This post has been edited by Rei7: Jun 5 2023, 10:21 PM