Not just ASRock la, many brands like that.

Different brands have different way to set price.

MSI Tomahawk? I don't see much recommendation locally BUT on international groups, B450 Tomahawk Max is everywhere.

Still good stuff though. I prefer the 3500X over 3300X.

My Deskmini now running Athlon 3000G.

Difficult to hit?

Interesting, I was running my 3600 on B550, all cores hitting boost clock with ease.

I run HWinfo, so can see the max recorded clock and 4.2GHz is always there.

Your board has dual BIOS, can it flashback / change BIOS?

Wondering if that helps.

Quite interesting, maybe degraded eh?

Last year people complained Ryzens do not reach boost clock and all vendors released new BIOS to patch.

Yes petty matter it is but it's good to have it reached advertised speed at least on single core.

Scored a nice Ryzen 5 3600.

4.5GHz at 1.275vcore, 1.23 load vcore. Completed Blender test, 240 AIO.

Now running at 4.5GHz 1.2vcore, 1.23 load vcore. Completed Blender test, using Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black tower - silent and fast!

https://valid.x86.fr/p769zv

My goodness, Ryzen 3 3100 is good.

Not as good as 3300X in pushing frame rate but it by no means sucks.

Still doesn't change the fact that Ryzen 3 3100 doesn't suck at all.

It's a little behind the Ryzen 3 3300X in pushing framerates but this point is only valid say if you're running RTX 2070 Super and above, and with the assumption your monitor is high refresh and you're insisting to push frames.

If not then they'll work similarly, especially on mid / lower end graphics cards.

I don't do leaks / rumors wan la.

Depends, if say ASRock B550 Taichi vs X570 Taichi, yes the price is very close. I'd go with X570.

But once you compare ASRock B550 Steel Legend as X570 Steel Legend, the B550 costs a few hundred less has more features, minus some PCIE bandwidth that people don't use.

B550M Steel Legend vs X570M Pro4 for example, similar price point but the B550M Steel Legend is overall the better board.

400 series is not supposed to support the Zen 3 processors right from the beginning.

Users make a fuss, and it is entirely up to the AIB to implement.

Pretty much that, I tested with RTX 2080 Super and the 3600 even on stock does really well.

GPU never bottleneck CPU in the first place, the CPU will work as it is no matter what you pair it with.

At lower resolution it's CPU bound but that's not a bottleneck.

The projected price looks good though, I would go with this instead of just conversion rate.

Expect to spend that amount for the new generation processors.

Now 3600 and 3300X are MIA from the market I believe. Can't get them for months now.

Let's see if they have those. 5600X at RM 1.4k range, I don't see how much lower 5600 would be.

Maybe 5300X if such an SKU appear would be around 3500X - 3600 performance range.

All in all 5000 series still doesn't have anything below RM 1.4k so 3000 series is here to stay.

Unfortunately as of now most common is 3100 and 3500X and 3600XT with no 3300X and 3600.

1. problem is people like to use their past Intel knowledge and compare with AMD.

It's not supposed to, firstly Idle temperature is pointless to be compared.

Secondly AMD system fluctuates the speed and voltage a lot depending on workload so the temps go up and down. If you don't observe how in changes you'll feel like 'yer why idle also 52c' when it's actually changing rapidly.

It goes back to what I said, IDLE temperature means nothing. What need to pay attention to is only LOAD temperature.

2. He's saying that 3000MHz is fine and he's right. I am using my 1800X at 3000MHz too, and for the past month it was at 2133MHz and I didn't realize cos didn't feel the difference.

The performance gain is always there if you go faster, not just MHz but latency but at that price the gains are often insignificant.

My Ryzen 7 1800X is 24/7 on since 2017, and that also mine is Day -0 unit (given by AMD).

4 years the fella never die, and it's the one that I use for video production.

Renders video in about 3 - 4 minutes, I'd say it's plenty fast.

Still have to upgrade soon, reduce the time further.