The only difference between the kits are
1) whether or not the pcb has led's
2) what kind of headspreader was used
3) what platform they were binned on and which profile was assigned.

They will all work if you manually OC them anyways.

This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 20 2020, 06:14 PM

For quite some time they just stopped bringing chips in or better say distributing them since there's quite a few from Penang

3600 is the best choice for so many reasons.
1) Best price/core (by a big margin)
2) Unlike the 3300x it's also fine to use with bigger GPU's
3) Decent overclockability

If they do this to justify a higher markup this time, I'll just order zen3 overseas.
If they do this to clear stock, fine with me.

This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 21 2020, 07:23 PM

What you forget.
Latest with the introduction of rocket lake AMD is gonna bring cheaper options such as a cheaper 6 and 8 core anyways.

They always love to have one chip for every price point.

ye can agree with that one goldfries
Question is how many chiplets for zen2 are still being produced.
If they still have quota allocated we should still see 3100/3300x/(3500x)/3600/(3700x) coming to us for quite some time.
That is until they feel like releasing Zen3's at a lower price range.
And as long as demand >= their supply for Zen3 there's no thing pushing them to do so. At least not until Intel reacts.

This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 22 2020, 04:23 PM

if u guys use memory on xmp it hardly matters anyways ... 3000 3200 3600... you won't see much difference cuz the primaries get absorbed by the cpu's cache and secondaries and tertiaries suck for all xmp profiles.

If these are the official MSRP they've become insane.
Confirmed I'll order overseas as a matter of principle.


This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 24 2020, 02:17 PM

For amazon; they are covering return shipping and send out replacement stock when they receive the item.
Usually that's faster than local warranty.

Anyways, wait for official numbers, then start complaining only

Well, its not so much about timings... for these Zen(+) controllers you foremost have to find your resistances (cad,rtt,procodt) sweet spot.
And that's not easy.

Depends on the channel you use. I've never encountered a limit with the European Amazon sites.

This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 24 2020, 01:15 PM

what we expect is one thing, what it should be another.

Another thing that's concerning me is. Now that the good chiplets gotta go to the 5900x & 5950x that clock highest (4.8 / 4.9 boost) ... there are no 5600 / 5700x to load off those that are not so good.

And I doubt they have the numbers to keep those bad ones back at this point for a 2021 launch of the above. So inevitably those chiplets gonna make their way to the 5600x (4.6) and 5800x (4.7) kinda making me feel there is a good chance in retail of getting a chip that's not boosting all that good.

It's obvious why they don't release the 5600/5700x just yet, but it seems like before possibly overpaying ~12.5/18% amd malaysia tax on chips that already got a hefty (but justified if numbers are true) price hike on zen2 it might be worth just waiting out.

With the Unify at 1.2 rather get this over the Tomahawk.
Yes, the VRM is slighty worse but the heatsink will equalize it.
Everything else on the Unify is simply better.

Oh n b4 theres even more hailing for (the) msi (tomahawk).
Have a read what they do 😉

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comment..._thunderbolt_3/

Yeah, the next mess up coming.
Cezanne on Zen3/Vega and Lucienne on Zen2/Vega but both sharing the 5k naming.

I'd expect Renoir to come to shores in November first.

Somemore there is 10% VAT included in their rm2550 equivalent.
So thats just below 2300 b4 VAT.

latios507
Australian prices (AUD) in MYR
b4 VAT:
1254 - 5600x
1868 - 5800x
2296 - 5900x
3339 - 5950x

incl. VAT:
1393 - 5600x
2076 - 5800x
2551 - 5900x
3710 - 5950x

Still think IdealTech estimated pricing would be reasonable?

I stick with it, below would be a reasonable pricing, (much) more than that n it's just scalping Malaysians.


This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 28 2020, 09:41 AM

Ye can put it like this.
But one must be cautious not to endorse unreasonable mark ups by AMD.

Can't forget they already increase the original pricing quite a bit.
This one is reasonable as their CPU's deliver for what the international MSRP's are.

But to bloat that any further.... yeah you get my point.
At the end of the day there is Intel with a 8 core 10700KF for sub 1.5k which will probably not be all that different in gaming performance.

Power consumption while gaming, negligible. Unless you game on a 1650s
Cooling, ye need a solid aftermarket cooler. Not like you don't need this on AMD. Check effective clocks during gaming, just as a piece of advise.
Security flaws n their fixes in performance charts already.
PCIe 3.0 mostly irrelevant for now as long as it's 16x.

Not saying I like Intel.
But if my choice would be between a 10700KF @ 1399 VS 5600X @ 1499 I would start giving it a thought.

There is no value proposition this launch by AMD. So if they price the entry level 5600x too high, that'll hurt them.

Then I can already see reviewers 5600x' clock super nicely, but let's wait for the retail ones.
There is no place for AMD to offload bad ccd's other than to the 5600x & 5800x (and 2nd ccd of a 5900x/5950x).

And edmund_yung 3600XT/3800XT were chips that made it into Malaysia in vanishingly tiny numbers. Ofc they gonna do what they did.
But then again, you could have ordered them overseas saving RM100 on 3600XT and RM150 on 3800XT

This post has been edited by nrw: Oct 28 2020, 01:48 PM

Launch prices:

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X: RM 3699

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X: RM 2499

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X: RM 2049

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X: RM 1349



Well what to say, AMD Malaysia not being the kindest this time around.
Now lets wait for Intels reaction.

This post has been edited by nrw: Nov 3 2020, 02:11 PM