Hi Guys,

Planning to build a new Rig with the below specs, what do you think? will there be a bottleneck?

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
Mobo: MSI B550 Tomahawk
GPU: Sapphire RX 5600XT
RAM: 16GB DDR4 Vengence LPX 3600mhz
Drive: ADATA XPG SX8200 512GB Gen3x4 M2.PCIE or Silicon Power 1TB NVMe Gen4x4 M.2 PCIE
PSU: 650w 80+ Bronze
Case: Cap Ayam with 6 case fans

Thanks for any suggestions and recommendations.

Should be fine for light gaming. Some area of improvement: Mobo, RAM and PSU, especially the PSU.

If you have extra budget, personally, I'd get an Asus or Gigabyte Mobo. Msi isn't bad value wise, but I consider MSI inferior than these 2 brands in terms of mobo quality. Again, you can ignore my advice if you want to go for MSI. You should consider Asrock too coz that's another contender for decent value & feature set (e.g. B550 Steel Legend / B550 Extreme Legend)

My only qualms is the PSU: don't get cheap out on it. It's the heart of ur system and I've experienced first-hand of the consequences in cheaping out on a PSU.

I'd get least 750W  / 850W Gold even if I was on budget. 750W gives you more headroom and future-proof. A good PSU can last you through multiple upgrades/build coz it's the component that can outlast your rig's lifespan (provided it is a good quality PSU).

There is a PSU tier list that you can use for your reference:
PSU Tier List 4.0

If you wish to save money, RAM is the where I'd look at. Getting the 3200mhz is more than enough coz speed wise vs 3600mhz, there is no real world tangible benefit.

However, if you have extra $$$ then stick to 3600mhz coz that is the 'sweet spot' for Ryzen 3000s CPU.

Good luck!

I know, but someone used to raise this; is there an incentive for the PSU makers to put good/premium grade/TOTL materials in a 550W/650W PSU? That's why the pricing for 550W/650W is as what it is.

What's the harm of spending an extra $$$ for a peace of mind

This is the one that is pumping life to your entire pc component. And come on, you really don't want 3080/3090/Big Navi 2 in your PC if you can afford one?

Not really future proof but to enable the GEN4 PCIE capabilities. I was initially look at a B450 board but since B450's are limited to GEN3 PCIE... So I decided that I can spend a bit more for a B550.

Yeah, agreed on the PSU part as advised by bro latios507.. therefore now thinking to get 80+ Gold PSU instead of the initial Bronze.
I did a PSU calculator at beQuiet page, seems that the total power consumption of my new selected specs will be around 337watts. Therefore I initially thought 650w 80+ Bronze will do the trick. As advised by Bro latios507, I will be going 80+ Gold instead now to be safe.
Right? I was really thinking about it... price not that far... might as well put in a bit more for a PC that I hope can last me the next 5 years?

https://shopee.com.my/-BUNDLE-AMD-RYZEN-5-5...8462.5461409726

cheaper but duno mobo good or not

AMD/Distribution mark up 10% noone points this out or complains. Then shops get low stock but want a piece of the cake as well and say must bundle.

At the end of the day ppl still get and all happy with this n follow.

Those that are unhappy won't voice up and it will always continue this way.

Malaysian IT market in a nutshell.

This video is lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZBIeM2zE-I

Intel got demolished

Out of the box with stock cooler also work fast arleady.

No need to spend on cooler and overclock.

My Corsair H115i Pro doesn't go max speed with Balanced. It will only go max speed with Extreme setting.

My 5900X idles at 45-49C. Load can go up to 82C.

7nm heat density is why Zen 2 and 3 temps goes up very fast. Intel still 14nm and already producing a volcano.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-...0k-cpu-review/2

Yeah Prime95 is going to toast this CPU for sure with small FFTs.

From experiencing all the fatal stability and reliability problems first hand, i feel like they dont give much thought on that. Even the 5800x is already overwhelmingly hot for such low powerdraw, cant imagine how much worse it will be by insulating the hot ccx cores with a very hot cache..

I think the only cpu i would be interested is the monolithic cezanne APU.

Wont be surprised if alderlake is behind but since AMD has taken the throne, i stopped being an AMD fan they gave me the impression of being the new intel. I somehow wanna see intel succeed so we can get cheaper high performance cpus.

Quite hyped about the 3D hybrid stacking, big L3 cache lets go

Hopefully my next upgrade will be whichever the Ryzen with the thicc cache and DDR5.

- This technology will be productized with 7nm Zen 3-based Ryzen processors. Nothing was said about EPYC.

- Those processors will start production at the end of the year. No comment on availability, although Q1 2022 would fit into AMD's regular cadence.

- This V-Cache chiplet is 64 MB of additional L3, with no stepped penalty on latency. The V-Cache is address striped with the normal L3 and can be powered down when not in use. The V-Cache sits on the same power plane as the regular L3.

- The processor with V-Cache is the same z-height as current Zen 3 products - both the core chiplet and the V-Cache are thinned to have an equal z-height as the IOD die for seamless integration

- As the V-Cache is built over the L3 cache on the main CCX, it doesn't sit over any of the hotspots created by the cores and so thermal considerations are less of an issue. The support silicon above the cores is designed to be thermally efficient.

- The V-Cache is a single 64 MB die, and is relatively denser than the normal L3 because it uses SRAM-optimized libraries of TSMC's 7nm process, AMD knows that TSMC can do multiple stacked dies, however AMD is only talking about a 1-High stack at this time which it will bring to market.

Well yeah, as ive mentioned, amd is all about those cache. Take em away, the cores are pretty weak for a 7nm.

Also, as a comparison with the 11400, 5600G has a faster GPU but performs worse overall when using a discrete card. It doesn't make it a worthy buy for gaming systems where folks are holding on to integrated graphics while waiting for RTX prices to drop.

Yes, that's why when I did my first run I was unimpressed. (as stated in video).

It was until I was doing OC and downvolt where I found it interesting.

Can go DDR5 5200MHz 2x 8GB but do you want to pay twice? Can go B650E board with some wait.

BUT my concern is about gains la, the performance level is that of an i9.

I do feel that they did over-do the power, considering I can go from 4.7GHz base to 5.4GHz base and went from 1.25v to 1.2v and still works fine.

My recommendation is to skip 2 generations for upgrade, or if up 1 generation then have to step up on the CPU rank.

That also see what GPU and reso you're on.

I'm a sucka for stuff that allows me headroom to play.

Sold my i9 to get and i5 for that. Now this one comes.

Out of the box ....... meh, personally I feel my i5-12600K is the better all-rounder, thanks to those E-cores.

BUT the E-cores is not without issue, some benchmarks / games actually result in lower FPS when E-cores enabled. Haven't try Windows 11 though.