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Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 16,286 km blotter Shell Helix Ultra 5W40
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TSzeng
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Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 12 2019, 11:18 PM) thanks for the visual inspection explanations .. maybe it still too early to judge let me come back with another result after hitting 5k km ..  You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil. Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of ....... can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 13 2019, 07:35 PM
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90Boyz
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Aug 13 2019, 11:35 PM
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chemistry
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Aug 14 2019, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM) You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil. Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of ....... can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5
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wkc5657
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Aug 14 2019, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM) You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil. Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of ....... can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 01:47 AM)
yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5 mercedes say HX8 yes, HX8X tak de
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chemistry
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Aug 14 2019, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:17 AM) mercedes say HX8 yes, HX8X tak de Don't know which side correct hehe..
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wkc5657
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Aug 14 2019, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 02:56 PM) Don't know which side correct hehe.. https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.htmlscroll to shell lower down the listing
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chemistry
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Aug 14 2019, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:26 PM) It could also be MB haven't updated the list yet. IDk. Any gentleman willing to query MB or Shell on this issue?
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wkc5657
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Aug 14 2019, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 03:55 PM) It could also be MB haven't updated the list yet. IDk. Any gentleman willing to query MB or Shell on this issue? Unlikely to be mercedes side fault, if you scroll back up near the top, see the right side before the list begins, it is the date last updated. And last updated yesterday
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chemistry
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Aug 14 2019, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 04:01 PM) Unlikely to be mercedes side fault, if you scroll back up near the top, see the right side before the list begins, it is the date last updated. And last updated yesterday  Good observation bro. Wanted to ask Shell Flagstore store about this, but then found out that they don't sell HX8 .
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TSzeng
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Aug 14 2019, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 01:47 AM)
yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5 Hi Chemistry, can you take a closer look at the picture, if you've a higher resolution one, to establish this HX8 X 5W30 is MB 229.5 or 229.3 ? I've images showing HX8 (without X) 5W30 from Russia, Indonesia and Australia/NZ showing MB 229.3.
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chemistry
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Aug 14 2019, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 14 2019, 04:58 PM) Hi Chemistry, can you take a closer look at the picture, if you've a higher resolution one, to establish this HX8 X 5W30 is MB 229.5 or 229.3 ? I've images showing HX8 (without X) 5W30 from Russia, Indonesia and Australia/NZ showing MB 229.3.
Hi zeng, I got the picture from mudah. Link: https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=76249540
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TSzeng
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Aug 15 2019, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 13 2019, 11:35 PM)  This 90Boyz, do you have access to this used bottle to take a snap on its back label ? or anyone else ? Thanks for sharing, Chemistry.
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90Boyz
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Aug 15 2019, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 15 2019, 09:56 AM) 90Boyz, do you have access to this used bottle to take a snap on its back label ? or anyone else ? Thanks for sharing, Chemistry. Hi Zeng bro, Will take a photo once i reach home.
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TSzeng
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Aug 15 2019, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:26 PM) Not sure whether you're suggesting 90Boyz's HX8 5W30 has MB 229.5 approval. However accoding to your link, MB 229.5 only applies to Helix HX8 0W30 and 0W40, not 5W30 : 
, whereas MB 229.3 includes HX8 5W30 :
This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 15 2019, 04:04 PM
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wkc5657
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Aug 15 2019, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 15 2019, 04:01 PM) Not sure whether you're suggesting 90Boyz's HX8 5W30 has MB 229.5 approval. However accoding to your link, MB 229.5 only applies to Helix HX8 0W30 and 0W40, not 5W30 : 
, whereas MB 229.3 includes HX8 5W30 :
good catch siao liao....almost confuse sia.... Shell you telling lies?
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90Boyz
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Aug 15 2019, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 15 2019, 04:01 PM) Not sure whether you're suggesting 90Boyz's HX8 5W30 has MB 229.5 approval. However accoding to your link, MB 229.5 only applies to Helix HX8 0W30 and 0W40, not 5W30 : 
, whereas MB 229.3 includes HX8 5W30 :
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TSzeng
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Aug 16 2019, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 15 2019, 07:48 PM) Thanks for uploading this 'precious' image showing HX8 X 5W30 as MB 229.5 approved, consistent with Shell Msia web claims. Would be watching for changes of 'other' Shell sites. .... and periodic MB approval listing updates, to reconcile variations
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wkc5657
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Aug 16 2019, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 16 2019, 09:58 AM) Thanks for uploading this 'precious' image showing HX8 X 5W30 as MB 229.5 approved, consistent with Shell Msia web claims. Would be watching for changes of 'other' Shell sites. .... and periodic MB approval listing updates, to reconcile variations MB approved listing is pretty recent, so i don't think it is MB's fault. Likely shell put that because it meets the specification, just didn't send to MB to validate, hence didn't appear on MB's list. But still, need to get confirmation on both ends to really confirm on who is right or wrong.
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90Boyz
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Aug 16 2019, 11:31 PM
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Kia Rio UB 1.4 year 2014 Current OD : 95680km (oil age : 11680km) Oil change interval : 10k Oil use : Petronas Syntium 3000 FR 5w30 This post has been edited by 90Boyz: Aug 16 2019, 11:32 PM
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TSzeng
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Aug 17 2019, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 16 2019, 11:31 PM) Kia Rio UB 1.4 year 2014 Current OD : 95680km (oil age : 11680km) Oil change interval : 10k Oil use : Petronas Syntium 3000 FR 5w30  Hi, another clean and sort of soot free (as there is no gray colour) blotter spot test at 11680 km from Syntium 3000 FR 5W30 A5B5 , although there is indication of slight fuel dilution (by looking at the translusence at the outermost zone) . Is the engine direct injection type or sampling was done cold ? Detergency/dispersancy capabilties of oil has plenty of life to go on, if one wish to extend it. This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 17 2019, 10:43 AM
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