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post Oct 25 2012, 11:25 AM


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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 19 2012, 06:21 PM)
Bro, refer back the warranty card and cash bill


Added on October 19, 2012, 6:23 pm
Basically VLT around 70%-60% with 50-60% TSER is consider good film.
Also look for Shading Coefficient around 0.4-0.6
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After much consideration I've decided that it would be worth while to up my budget from RM500-700 for the tinting to RM1000+.

I was initially quite keen on Agard but it seems like that feedback has been might as well go for Huper Optik/3M if I have the budget and I want quality.

What do you guys think is it worth it for a peace of mind and quality? Based on what I've read on the forums my choices would be 3M or Huper Optik.

As I understand not much between 3M Crystalline and Huper Optik Sech60/C70(FWS)+C40(Side/Rear) aside from color? Or am I mistaken?



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post Oct 25 2012, 04:58 PM


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I was quoted RM 8xx for Raytech C-75 security film and RM 5xx for C-60 from Raytech. Actually what is the difference between these security film and standard solar film?
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post Oct 25 2012, 05:43 PM


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Not sure c40 all round will make the tint very dark. My seat is light grey in color though.hmm....
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post Oct 25 2012, 06:20 PM


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QUOTE(Patagoniaranger @ Oct 24 2012, 11:58 PM)
What's the cheapest Security Car Tint brand i can get? Budget is RM 600
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Go search around at Groupon, I Deals or I Love Discount
You can get a average film with that bugdet =)

http://www.groupon.my/

http://www.ilovediscounts.my/klang-valley/

http://www.mydeal.com.my/deals/kuala-lumpur


Added on October 25, 2012, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(ATEC @ Oct 24 2012, 10:50 PM)
which type u use and how much it cost?  mind to share?


Added on October 24, 2012, 11:17 pmMay i know how much it cost for Huper 40 (FWC + Side + Rear) or
Huper 40 (FWC) + Huper30 (side&rear). Thanks
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Refer here for Huper Optik aka Smart Window http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2374620


Added on October 25, 2012, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(silentG @ Oct 25 2012, 11:25 AM)
After much consideration I've decided that it would be worth while to up my budget from RM500-700 for the tinting to RM1000+.

I was initially quite keen on Agard but it seems like that feedback has been might as well go for Huper Optik/3M if I have the budget and I want quality.

What do you guys think is it worth it for a peace of mind and quality? Based on what I've read on the forums my choices would be 3M or Huper Optik.

As I understand not much between 3M Crystalline  and Huper Optik  Sech60/C70(FWS)+C40(Side/Rear) aside from color? Or am I mistaken?
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Refer here for Huper Optik aka Smart Window http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2374620

I would choose 3M than Huper because I always insist that metal has better rejection than ceramic.
The only problem with the 3M is they got too many fake product in market as they have too many dealer.
The film will start discoloration after few years.

The heat rejection is overall good =)


Added on October 25, 2012, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Oct 25 2012, 05:43 PM)
Not sure c40 all round will make the tint very dark. My seat is light grey in color though.hmm....
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Refer here for Huper Optik aka Smart Window http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2374620


Added on October 25, 2012, 6:27 pm
QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 25 2012, 04:58 PM)
I was quoted RM 8xx for Raytech C-75 security film and RM 5xx for C-60 from Raytech. Actually what is the difference between these security film and standard solar film?
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A minimum thickness for safety film is 4Mil, above 8Mil is Security film which have bullet resistant.
A normal solar control film thickness is around 1.5mil - 3mil

Contact them for further details http://www.raytech.com.my/

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post Oct 26 2012, 05:53 AM


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what's the difference if Tinting is compare through Brand ?

The price of branded one for Security Film cost above RM 1K as compare to the one that is sold by other non branded company. When i study the features like thickness of film such as mil, light transmit etc... the specs were almost the same or not as far from it.

For me , priority is security . if i get 8 mil film from a cheap brand, will the same quality applies with the branded one? how to tell the different? is it by demonstration? what details should i be looking for ? thanks


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post Oct 26 2012, 11:04 AM


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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Oct 25 2012, 05:43 PM)
Not sure c40 all round will make the tint very dark. My seat is light grey in color though.hmm....
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C40 isn't really very dark.
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post Oct 26 2012, 11:31 AM


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QUOTE(Patagoniaranger @ Oct 26 2012, 05:53 AM)
what's the difference if Tinting is compare through Brand ?

The price of branded one for Security Film cost above RM 1K as compare to the one that is sold by other non branded company. When i study the features like  thickness of film such as mil, light transmit etc... the specs were almost the same or not as far from it.

For me , priority is security . if i get 8 mil film from a cheap brand, will the same quality applies with the branded one? how to tell the different? is it by demonstration? what details should i be looking for ? thanks
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The thickness is nothing to shout about, because every brand can give you 4-10mil.
The heat rejection is more important.
The test the film in few ways

Reflectance
Absorption
Rejection

Few simple tools to test the film such as "killer machine" "infra red lamp" "heat digitizer"

Make sure the film is INTERNATIONAL brand and not HOME brand. Why?
Because the film is good and they were able to sell it internationally.

Most of supplier nowadays get film from China, Korea and etc. Bring into Msia and rebrand it.
Its actually very easy to identify which are HOME or INTERNATIONAL.
At their official website, it always end up with "com.my".
Try remove the "my", and you can still access to that website,
its truly a INTERNATIONAL brand. Most of the HOME brand give you fake info especially on their spec.


Added on October 26, 2012, 11:36 am
QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 26 2012, 11:04 AM)
C40 isn't really very dark.
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Agree. Check few thing before you decide to put c40

1. If the supplier willing to cover the summon then you have no worries.
2. If your car interior is dark, then it will look darker too.


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post Oct 26 2012, 04:24 PM


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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 26 2012, 11:04 AM)
C40 isn't really very dark.
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Thanks. So c30 will be slightly darker then.

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Agree. Check few thing before you decide to put c40

1. If the supplier willing to cover the summon then you have no worries.
2. If your car interior is dark, then it will look darker too.
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Thanks bro. I don't think supplier will cover summon for c40 all round. My previous ride was with V Kool 40'all round and never Kena summons before even during road blocks. I just want tint that is dark enough to make one visible but not to the extent that one can't see anything from outside. V 40 is bloody exp nowadays.
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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Oct 26 2012, 04:24 PM)
Thanks. So c30 will be slightly darker then.
Thanks bro. I don't think supplier will cover summon for c40 all round. My previous ride was  with V Kool 40'all round and never Kena summons before even during road blocks. I just want tint that is dark enough to make one visible but not to the extent that one can't see anything from outside. V 40 is bloody exp nowadays.
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Yes it about RM3000++ haha but the film is good =)

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post Oct 26 2012, 08:00 PM


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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 26 2012, 11:31 AM)
The thickness is nothing to shout about, because every brand can give you 4-10mil.
The heat rejection is more important.
The test the film in few ways

Reflectance
Absorption
Rejection

Few simple tools to test the film such as "killer machine" "infra red lamp" "heat digitizer"

Make sure the film is INTERNATIONAL brand and not HOME brand. Why?
Because the film is good and they were able to sell it internationally.

Most of supplier nowadays get film from China, Korea and etc. Bring into Msia and rebrand it.
Its actually very easy to identify which are HOME or INTERNATIONAL.
At their official website, it always end up with "com.my".
Try remove the "my", and you can still access to that website,
its truly a INTERNATIONAL brand. Most of the HOME brand give you fake info especially on their spec.


Added on October 26, 2012, 11:36 am

Agree. Check few thing before you decide to put c40

1. If the supplier willing to cover the summon then you have no worries.
2. If your car interior is dark, then it will look darker too.
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thanks a lot. appreciate your help . do u have anything good for budget wise for me. you may pm me . i just need 8mil film and dark tint for my car. it's purpose is just for security since crime is increasing now.
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wanna ask few thing..
1. VLT higher means darker? i confuse because of the name "visible light transmitted".
2. i see some tint spec got IRR and TSER.. for example, IRR 80% TSER 30%. means IRR actually higher than 80%?


Added on October 26, 2012, 9:40 pmand 1 more question.. VLT and VLR effect have to sum up oso?


Added on October 26, 2012, 9:44 pmlast question.. i see a lot ppl selling in LYN all say with jpj approved.. actually what range is jpj approved?

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QUOTE(simchengheng @ Oct 26 2012, 09:32 PM)
wanna ask few thing..
1. VLT higher means darker? i confuse because of the name "visible light transmitted".
2. i see some tint spec got IRR and TSER.. for example, IRR 80% TSER 30%. means IRR actually higher than 80%?


Added on October 26, 2012, 9:40 pmand 1 more question.. VLT and VLR effect have to sum up oso?


Added on October 26, 2012, 9:44 pmlast question.. i see a lot ppl selling in LYN all say with jpj approved.. actually what range is jpj approved?
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1. VLT = Visible Light Transmittance means lower the darker
2. There is few thing you need to consider VLT vs VLR vs VLA v TSER vs IRR vs Shading Coefficient
3. Actually the JPJ never approve any of tint film but they set a guideline for consumer to follow
whereby >70% VLT for FWS and >50% for BWS and side.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 25 2012, 04:58 PM)
I was quoted RM 8xx for Raytech C-75 security film and RM 5xx for C-60 from Raytech. Actually what is the difference between these security film and standard solar film?
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Mind asking this c-75 and c-60 is for side window only or whole car ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Digital_Life @ Oct 28 2012, 11:27 AM)
Mind asking this c-75 and c-60 is for side window only or whole car ? smile.gif
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SA says whole car.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 28 2012, 11:29 AM)
SA says whole car.
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Ok, but I heard from some other tint seller saying usually the front windscreen and back windscreen they don't do security tint due to safety reason if there is an accident.


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QUOTE(Digital_Life @ Oct 28 2012, 11:31 AM)
Ok, but I heard from some other tint seller saying usually the front windscreen and back windscreen they don't do security tint due to safety reason if there is an accident.
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Hmm, I got to check again.
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QUOTE(Digital_Life @ Oct 28 2012, 11:31 AM)
Ok, but I heard from some other tint seller saying usually the front windscreen and back windscreen they don't do security tint due to safety reason if there is an accident.
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This is 100% correct +1 Normally safe tint only apply to side =)

1. We don't install safety film on front windscreen because

- The front windscreen is laminated glass, so its already very safe
- If you insist to put, you front windscreen will very blur.


2. We don't install safety film on back windscreen because

- It will create gap between demister line and the film, thus it will create bubble after long period.
- It will spoil the demister if you going to change it due to the strong adhesive.
- The back is the only way to escape, if you cant unlock all the door if accident happen.

I hope this explanation help =)
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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 28 2012, 10:38 PM)
This is 100% correct +1 Normally safe tint only apply to side =)

1. We don't install safety film on front windscreen because

- The front windscreen is laminated glass, so its already very safe
- If you insist to put, you front windscreen will very blur.
2. We don't install safety film on back windscreen because

- It will create gap between demister line and the film, thus it will create bubble after long period.
- It will spoil the demister if you going to change it due to the strong adhesive.
- The back is the only way to escape, if you cant unlock all the door if accident happen.

I hope this explanation help =)
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Oh thanks for the explanation thumbup.gif
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is it true if we install tinted it will void power window and rain sensing wiper warranty?
can someone clarify this,i heard this from my SA

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what did your SA reply you on what a super thin ray sheet can potentially harm a super power window?

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