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haris
post Dec 6 2008, 05:15 PM

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Let me add some additional point supporting sheer idiocy of MS not releasing it officially in M'sia with no Life support some more.

1. The only true solution to piracy is education. And in this case it should be education / information specific to not pirating Xbox 360 games. How to educate Malaysian if it is not even release here officially?

2. Right now. The first real exposure one will get to the console is when trying to buy it. And guess what. Retailers will offer moded console (eventhough it is not moded ala mod chip etc). Highlighting the advantage of able to play copy game. This is the education that this generation of Malaysian get. One may wonder the effect of this negative feedback to the next generation too.

3. Live is the main reason why not to mod console and play copy games. There is some inherent risk of the console knowing that a disc is copy disc, cache the information and ban the console once someone sign in to Live. But right here in Malaysia, just buy moded console, play copy game and don't ever login to Live. And everything is set. It is not just that there is no reason to login to Live. It is also that Malaysian are not allowed to login to live. Encourage more piracy. Go figure.

I honestly think that MS should rethink their strategy. Focus more on doing the right thing (aka education, raise public awareness, etc). Not releasing it in Malaysia due to piracy sounds like an idiotic argument. The better argument will be due to small market, which IMHO singapore has even smaller.

After years of waiting. Honestly I have give up on this biggrin.gif. So here is for another would be moded console owner who will prolly play copied games. Because waiting for official life & official support sounds like a bad idea at this so late of the console life time.

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post Dec 6 2008, 05:21 PM

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Just a question:

If MS didn't ban modded consoles from Live, how many of us here would honestly say we'd 100% support original?

For me, I'm not so sure. On one hand I'm all-original now cos I don't want to be banned from Live (and the 3rrod issue). But on the other hand I hardly ever play online anyway -- my style of game is more offline/single player e.g. RPG's. I've had Gold for the last 2-3 years, but I can honestly count the number of times I've played online as less than 30.

[edit] To make things worse, we have bullsh*t like, buying GoW2 limited but being unable to redeem the lancer/map pack due to IP issues. WTF is this?

So sometimes I wonder, is it worth the money?

This post has been edited by deodorant: Dec 6 2008, 05:23 PM
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post Dec 6 2008, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(haris @ Dec 6 2008, 05:15 PM)
Let me add some additional point supporting sheer idiocy of MS not releasing it officially in M'sia with no Life support some more.
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1) original games community is the best education?

Regarding the launch in Malaysia...forumer pmsoo shared his thought on this subject before which I think make the most sense. (forgot which thread)

Microsoft first & foremost is a software company...there have only like what, 2 consumer hardware out in the market - Zune & xbox360? It's not as easy as it sounds to simply launch a hardware here.
They do have a service center here but that's mainly for all the software like windows, office etc. So ya, we have official windows support here laugh.gif

Comparison with Singapore is not valid though. Their country is smaller but the authority is doing everything they can to stop the growth of piracy market, while legitimate games market seems bigger too. At the moment Malaysia government can't seems to bother with it.

QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2008, 05:21 PM)
So sometimes I wonder, is it worth the money?
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Region IP lock on regional content is not a Malaysian specific problem, it applies to everyone else especially the non-Live countries. Also Microsoft is not the only one taking this "precaution" for copyright issues...although it seems bull from a consumer perspective.

It's always less hassle & less worries when playing original games compare to modding your console. This matters alot for a working adult + <insert any real life commitment you have>
If everyone has given up on original gaming, the chances of us seeing things official here will be 0 to none and nobody will ever take us seriously. At the end of the day, buying original game is still the right to do regardless of all setback.

You can't say i am not satisfy with BigMac, so tonight I am going to McDonald and steal one...it's either you stop buying BigMac, complain to McDonald or CAPSLOCK rant in a forum laugh.gif Alternatively, you can go burger king.

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post Dec 6 2008, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2008, 05:21 PM)
Just a question:

If MS didn't ban modded consoles from Live, how many of us here would honestly say we'd 100% support original?

For me, I'm not so sure. On one hand I'm all-original now cos I don't want to be banned from Live (and the 3rrod issue). But on the other hand I hardly ever play online anyway -- my style of game is more offline/single player e.g. RPG's. I've had Gold for the last 2-3 years, but I can honestly count the number of times I've played online as less than 30.

[edit] To make things worse, we have bullsh*t like, buying GoW2 limited but being unable to redeem the lancer/map pack due to IP issues. WTF is this?

So sometimes I wonder, is it worth the money?
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Worth of money is depend on your type of what do you see in gaming. For me going online and laughing and having fun with frens, then yes is worth it.

QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Dec 6 2008, 07:41 PM)
1) original games community is the best education?

Regarding the launch in Malaysia...forumer pmsoo shared his thought on this subject before which I think make the most sense. (forgot which thread)

Microsoft first & foremost is a software company...there have only like what, 2 consumer hardware out in the market - Zune & xbox360? It's not as easy as it sounds to simply launch a game console here.
They do have a service center here but that's mainly for all the software like windows, office etc. So ya, we have official windows support here laugh.gif

Comparison with Singapore is not valid though. Their country is smaller but the authority is doing everything they can to stop the growth of piracy market, while legitimate games market seems bigger too. At the moment Malaysia government can't seems to bother with it.
Region IP lock on regional content is not a Malaysian specific problem, it applies to everyone else especially the non-Live countries. Also Microsoft is not the only one taking this "precaution" for copyright issues...although it seems bull from a consumer perspective.

It's always less hassle & less worries when playing original games compare to modding your console. This matters alot for a working adult + <insert any real life commitment you have>
If everyone has given up on original gaming, the chances of us seeing things official here will be 0 to none and nobody will ever take us seriously. At the end of the day, buying original game is still the right to do regardless of all setback.

You can't say i am not satisfy with BigMac, so tonight I am going to McDonald and steal one...it's either you stop buying BigMac, complain to McDonald or CAPSLOCK rant in a forum laugh.gif Alternatively, you can go burger king.
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SG is better cause country small ma, so easier lor. Malaysia, hmm still damn hard cause too big. ( maybe someone setup a factory for pirating in middle of jungle? )
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 6 2008, 05:21 PM)
Just a question:

If MS didn't ban modded consoles from Live, how many of us here would honestly say we'd 100% support original?

For me, I'm not so sure. On one hand I'm all-original now cos I don't want to be banned from Live (and the 3rrod issue). But on the other hand I hardly ever play online anyway -- my style of game is more offline/single player e.g. RPG's. I've had Gold for the last 2-3 years, but I can honestly count the number of times I've played online as less than 30.

[edit] To make things worse, we have bullsh*t like, buying GoW2 limited but being unable to redeem the lancer/map pack due to IP issues. WTF is this?

So sometimes I wonder, is it worth the money?
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not worth it
i tell u
now im thinking better support pirate
still can online
no new map
just find another room
simple as dat!!!!
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post Dec 7 2008, 12:04 AM

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well..i will also like to add in the fact that microsoft is not official here could also lead to more piracy users because there is simply not much difference in terms of warranty..if u use an unmodded machine, u can claim warranty but need to pay for the courier and pray that the new machine that u get wont rrod again..if u use a modded one..then u can also fix it at almost the same price or maybe cheaper

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post Dec 7 2008, 10:15 AM

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MICROSOFT SMAKERSHROFT!!!!! wat ever it is .... i just play LIVE and enjoy playing original.

Agreed with the long statement by heart from our brother here... i feel you man... but what to do ... all this i blame the GOVERNMENT!!! because they are the ones are cost of it all....

I have 1001 ways to wipe out pirated skims!! NO SERIOUSLY I HAVE.... Its a matter of the government NAK TANAK!!!!

They busy with their own affairs... things like this which is important they tutup sebelah mata. TYPICAL MALAYSIANS!!! ALWAYS HAVE NEGATIVE THINKING TOWARDS SOMETHING LIKE THIS. So they couldnt be bothered.

Gaming community is huge and Malaysia gaming community is huge. If i know someone in the politics, i would have fight this all true... cause how the hell is the people going to be educate if there is no chance for the education to pass through...

Ahhhhh!!!!!!!! i've been playing game since i was a baby... and give up waiting for official this and that.... WE GAMERS OF MALAYSIA ARE LIKE THE PALESTINIAN or THE ISRAELIST ... never ending WAR!!!!!!!! cool2.gif



ps: I'm done waiting ...............


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QUOTE(eismeal)
They busy with their own affairs... things like this which is important they tutup sebelah mata.
One word: Corruption. You think the authorities don't have any financial incentive to tutup mata sebelah towards piracy?
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post Dec 8 2008, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Dec 7 2008, 11:57 AM)
QUOTE(eismeal)
They busy with their own affairs... things like this which is important they tutup sebelah mata.
One word: Corruption. You think the authorities don't have any financial incentive to tutup mata sebelah towards piracy?
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To wat level can you take into corruption bro.... this so called category falls under one department.... how many KEPALA IS THERE!!!??? If the leader like monkey ... the workers also like monkey... enough said.

Ayo... nanti kite masok ISA pulak.. better leave the topic as it is hahahhahaha. whistling.gif


ps: Do you notice most of ASIA games are 'MADE IN SINGAPORE' ??? go figure if you know what i mean... or see what i see..
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post Mar 9 2010, 01:12 PM

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[quote=eismeal,Dec 8 2008, 11:48 AM]
One word: Corruption. You think the authorities don't have any financial incentive to tutup mata sebelah towards piracy?
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To wat level can you take into corruption bro.... this so called category falls under one department.... how many KEPALA IS THERE!!!??? If the leader like monkey ... the workers also like monkey... enough said.

Ayo... nanti kite masok ISA pulak.. better leave the topic as it is hahahhahaha. whistling.gif
ps: Do you notice most of ASIA games are 'MADE IN SINGAPORE' ??? go figure if you know what i mean... or see what i see..
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post Mar 9 2010, 01:21 PM

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do you notice this is a year 2008 dec 8 post?
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post Mar 9 2010, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Mar 9 2010, 01:21 PM)
do you notice this is a year 2008 dec 8 post?
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haha, no. just looking for info on xbox live
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QUOTE(zemang86 @ Mar 9 2010, 01:47 PM)
haha, no. just looking for info on xbox live
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good, next time you know where to read before you post. hahahahaha
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post Mar 11 2010, 05:37 PM

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Voted already.... in 2010... wahaha
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post Mar 11 2010, 11:28 PM

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Wei, who defib my thread?
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:36 PM

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i REALLY think it would be good 2 hav XBL here in m'sia.....i mean, c'mon....Netflix!!
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QUOTE(AntiVenom101 @ Jul 20 2010, 01:36 PM)
i REALLY think it would be good 2 hav XBL here in m'sia.....i mean, c'mon....Netflix!!
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Netflix is stuck in US. If not, the Wii and even the PS3 would have gotten it already.

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