does denying gets us experience? cuz.. im a lil curious... if denying get exp then its good please help me with this question guys...

u denying other ppl won't give u more exp, it just means the enemy won't get the exp

yeah.. the more u deny enemy's creep the better, but it is more important early in a game

ooo... now i know... thx guys...


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Am i the only player that learn Lich's 3rd skill on Lvl1? I figure i can deny a bit better using that. Do most people(who denies) do this?

lich normally getting nova followed by 3rd skill... 1st u can creep deny 2nd u can rejuvenate ur mana thru tat skill

denying is the one of the key to win in dota even if not using lich we r playing ar here i don't think u'll get lich all the time.

in ver 5, if u deny XP....the enemy gains o XP.
but in ver 6, enemy still gains XP if u deny, but much lesser, its 32 XP instead of 69 XP per creep.

You're definitely not the only one. Most good lich players do that. Munch one when the creeps come out, deny another one or two manually, your skill will cool down in time for another creep, and the first wave is gone. Extremely irritating to the enemy. He gets a creep if he's lucky, and you begin to harass the heck out of him with nova at lv 3. Lich can easily deny to the point that if laned against 2 heroes, both of them will be lv 4 by the time he's lv 6.

dats wat i usually do as well... use it straight when the first wave gets goin on my most forward creep so dat 1. i can deny n outlevel the opponents 2. i stay closer to my tower

denying with lich, does it add +1 to the deny counter on -cson?

or u deny the creep b4 it reaches the enemy radious of exp gain

no. and enemy gain 0 XP


enemy gain 0 XP


in ver 6, if u deny within enemy radius
enemy still gain 32 XP

thanks for the INFO dante

ive phased out of dota , but never really given thought of Lich and denying

More important, denying means ur opponent won't get money. They canot earn good items, early ingame can best denying, till lvl6 things will start ugly

Ranged heroes are the best deniers. Isn't it a waste to use Lich's skill to deny a low HP creep? You'll gain less mana if you do so....

want to see ppl deny very of the powerful, go look for jmc-merlini deny with his lich.

use lich skill on the full HP creep lo

Deny mean that u don't target the creep or what?

cannot tell u. later u deny me. LOL.

deny means hit your own creep la. enemy depend on your creep to level up. if u kill your own creep, your enemy wont get XP/gold lo.

they will still get exp in da later versions... very minimal though... i guess icefrog had pity on noobs who were denied exp by pros hahah

No, it was because clan matches and tournaments dragged too long due to all the denying. Severely under-leveled heroes are normal in such matches.

how do you do that though? like press A and then on your own creep? cos like, I've tried that and nothing happens.

u`ll have to wait until the creeps hp is red-orange to deny it

i would do better in denying if only i am the host delay sux

All the posts above explained it all clearly...except that the hidden reason of why u deny creeps its actually pissing off ur opponent...ROFL

Anyway, He/She will SURE to ask their teammates come GB u...LOL

The best denyers(am i right? lol) are range hero. If i use meelee i won't deny unless enemy heroes is not there or far from u... If u agains range heroes, u got no time to deny coz u'll be the no 1 target to be harrased lol. Damn str char u go die early i dunwan u fat(range hero int char always say tat )

Heee, u wan denies use range n play shooting... ur creep gona die? shoot fast n learn at what point will u get the denies(depends on ur attk dmg). There's still a hidden secret of how to denies effectively. Tat one u have to learn urself. lol