Oh, I'm fine with the post redirect to the Gamer's Hideout section, in fact I reposted it there myself. Just the erh..."world record" statement is the "patronizing" part. Wasn't necessary to insert "world record" or "Malaysia's best" statement when redirecting posts. Hence the "bounceback". You know what they say about "spitting up to the sky".....

Inserting a "back on topic" material:

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Used to get 13k on Fire Strike Ultra. I guess the GFE streaming takes a bit of the processing muscle away from the rig.

No really a thing to talk about anyway, since most speedrunner turn their resolution down and lower settings to the lowest possible that almost any entry level graphics card can muster. World record speedrun on RE7 on PC was done at 1080p LOW. *shrugs*

I on the other hand, dont care at all about e-Sports or online multiplayer. It's the experience playing games at their most compelling setting, rich narrative and story arcs, and compelling content matters more to me than,......getting yelled at in online multiplayer by pre-pubescent kids screaming dank and cliched memes, or teabagging a kill.

Pity now that quality story content and narratives are getting sidelined by "online multiplayer" (which is the reason why every new games nowadays adopt the paid DLC model, because online multiplayer hides content like maps behind a paywall) and "e-Sports", to the point where the only content you need to know about these "e-Sports" games is which skin looks better or something similar, nothing about background story. Give me stories and content like GTAV, The Witcher 3, Planetscape Torment or Dark Souls. Games with little or thin like DOTA2, LoL, CS:Go or Overwatch means little to me, I dont watch or care enough about real-life sports like EPL or NBA, and the same sentiment of "I dont give a f*ck/shit" is extended to these "e-Sports" games as well.

Oh yeah.......erh...."Rekt", "Harambe", "LUL/LEL/LOL" or whatever equivalent dank memes young people are using these days. Can't keep up, every day there's a new one popping up vying for "likes" and popularity, when they mean absolutely nothing other than entertainment for those with declining IQ level. *shrugs*

I dont give a rat's ass about e-Sports. e-Sports games dilute video games as a medium of story telling to the point where it infects games that were meant to be story driven single player with online multiplayer bullshit.

I approach my games the way I approach my movies: I rather watch "Inception", "Spotlight" or "Arrival" than the yearly "Transformers" nonsense. I don't do "cheap thrills", I rather the experience I get from the game to be meaningful through connection with the game's content and story, not how many kills I did or how fast I finished it. And that connection means immersion, and you get better immersed when the settings are cranked up.

You and me agree on one thing: we both like Mortal Kombat.

P/S: Funny that you went into RE7 more into the aspect of "world records" and "I beat this boss faster" leaderboards. Was not surprised though, judging from your "e-Sports" inclinations, that's what's all "e-Sports" is all about isn't it? Better scores, fastest time, most amount of kills, right? RE7 was made as a "return to form", back to the days of the first Resident Evil that provided compelling narrative story content to allow players experience survival horror through story-telling. Hence that's how I rather approach RE7. But hey, what can I say.......kids these days, they just like to "rush through things", "quick kills and cheap thrills". Even glorifying "who finish the fastest" in a game that was made to encourage you to explore the game's environment and story content by taking it slow, not "I finish first". To each his own I guess. *shrugs*

haha well said

all hail the taikor

i prefer quality than quantity

that is why i dont settle 1060 at lowest

I guess my points all hit home. Neither any of them are refuted.

No point waiting for Vega and Volta if you're playing e-Sports games. Their game requirements aren't demanding, and even last gen 900 series (960/970) can still play them at satisfactorily enough quality (for e-Sports, framerates only matters right, who cares about image quality?).

The whole point of advancement in graphics capability in graphics cards is so that games can utilize them in games. Better graphics engine, higher resolution, scalable effect and post-processing,......but when e-Sports games like CS:GO, DOTA2 or LoL  only cares catering to the lowest common denominator with gamers using the cheapest graphics cards they can buy, e-Sports games never are the kind that pushes the adoption of new advancement in technology and efficiency in new GPU technology. When your graphics is as "simple" and content as "repetitive" as how CS:GO, DOTA2 and LoL looks like, there's no motivation to get better graphics card. GPU technology to these folks can remain stagnant for all they care, because they kept playing the same game over and over again that requires no incentive for them to upgrade.

Case in point: you can play CS:GO, DOTA2 and LoL with a lowly Pentium G4440 and GTX 750Ti or GTX1050 assembled in a rig for RM1600. Add a bit more for your favorite 1050Ti flavor. And e-Sports players like you are happy and proud of it (you said it yourself), so what are the incentive of "looking forward to Volta vs Vega" again? R&D in GPU costs money, and initial pricing for these cards aren't gonna be within the range that "e-Sports" enthusiasts would go for, judging from the package bundle aimed at them (G440+750Ti/1050). It's people who play games for immersion and compelling experiences like The Witcher 3, GTAV or Dark Souls that requires beefier hardware, they are the early adopters who drive the demand for your "Vega vs Volta" technology forward, so that enough people like us buy into these first that Nvidia and AMD would release lower end cards and drop prices enough so that e-Sports people like you can buy them. It's the higher end GPU early adopters that ENABLES YOU, e-Sports players looking for bargain GPUs, to get your graphics card at bargain prices.

Why bother, when all the games you play are e-Sports, casual or semi-competitive games, where game content is stagnant and the same and doesn't require beefier hardware to run, or where you play your games as speedruns and you turn down all the settings anyway to get higher framerates?

My previous 660ti still above minimum spec required for BF1, latest high end like 1080 might able to handle 3-5 years of new games on 1080P, but definitely wont be at max setting. There will always be newer tech or standards that new games adopt, old card likely not h/w compatible.

Previously I only use mid/mid-high end card, and upgrade every 2 years. Those card will able to handle new games at max/near max setting, while having latest tech/standard.

I've been through enough to form an informed opinion on it. The group that collaborated with me building all my rigs talks incessantly about it, I can't even "not know" about it if I want to. My Facebook feed is filled with these whether I like it or not. Everybody wanna stream DOTA2 on their FB, where everyone plays on the same map with only variation on how you play. After a while, everyone else starts playing it the same few ways, so what's the point of playing......or watching a stream of that for that matter?

I equate "stagnant" here as they lack expansive content, strategies still revolve around the same content. I can "meta" too in RE7, where instead of rushing at beating "Mutated Jack" in the barn fight, I took my time looking at what else I can do with it with only my pistols, ....or my knife.....or my circular chainsaw, using the environment as a way to beat him. It doesn't bag me into the record books, but I get to see what else I can do in the game instead of "wham, bam, thank you, ma'am" approach.

It's the nature of competitive games to BE STAGNANT, if they're always changing, players CANT form strategies around them or execute strategies based on what they've practiced for so long. Imagine playing DOTA2 with you practicing with one specific hero for weeks or months, and then Valve changed it up, buffing your hero one day and nerfing it the next day. Or if the game dynamically changes the map with shifting map routes. I'd actually play that kind of game if they change dynamically, but for competitive players, they'd probably pick up their bags and leave.

P/S: I see you more excited about RE7 as a "competitive" sports-like game, than taking it in as what it is supposed to be: a survival horror game. This is "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", not "Free To Play" on Steam. Imagine me playing DOTA2 just looking around enjoying the shitty environment, instead of following the strategies formed with your team mates. Get it?

Because the majority gravitates more towards what they can do with their 750tis and 1050s, and guess which games those cards can play better at? It's like a RM1.50 nasi lemak versus a RM10 nasi kandar, you can't be choosy when you only have RM1.50 in the pocket. Or....you can try ask for an RM1.50 portion of an RM10 nasi kandar, and the mamak would consider giving a 1/10th out of that meal. Same with games, you can always game at higher resolution and better image quality, but you're gonna have the same experience as the 1/10th of that nasi kandar meal.

Speaking of which.....my lunch is getting cold.

The point is, there's no motivation for you to upgrade your GPUs, when most of the game you play are casual, semi-competitive and e-Sports games where system requirements are low. Why bother getting a GTX1080 or a Titan X when you're playing DOTA2?

I believe the argument has gone too far. This is an NVIDIA GeForce thread, and NVIDIA makes GPU from the mightiest of Titan X Pascal to the most-budget-kinda-waste-of-money Geforce 610. Anybody discussing about their NVIDIA GeForce product or their interest in GeForce product are welcomed, even if it is the Geforce 210 (why do you buy that card again?).

i think "hao lian" 

don't argue lah. i can't even afford single titan x.  yeah GTX 1050Ti consider quite good for moba.

i'm using #poorpeople i5-4460 so don't need so care just enjoy the games.

Same problem here

Hope is temporary glitch

Later tonight try again haha

980Ti is dead legend just like 780Ti if the proceed 2 go refresh and skip Ti straight away is true

so good
my pc still using on board after i sell my gtx 970
waiting gc support 4k smoothly
waiting volta or new amd gc

I support on GTX 1050 Ti. But do try to get the one with base price around RM729 or lower in my opinion.

im interested in upgrading to a mini gtx 1060 3gb for my itx build
Which are the recommended brands? zotac seems to be the cheapest..

Haha better spend the extra 2 future proof another 3 more years hahahaha

1080TI?

haha i wonder why intel vs AMD not hot enough unlike nvidia vs AMD radeon