QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 24 2017, 08:31 PM)
I'm supporting Japanese King Strategist now. Why should I to tell you? Buy Japanese car better, safer buy. Won't end up like my ex-colleague's old optima only get sympathy trade in RM3k when wanted to buy Honda. He tried to sell for few months nobody buy.
Dude, i respect the fact that you MAYBE a legitimate marketer (although you have yet to prove yourself), hence i just want to give a chance for you to prove to us how/what can be done for that time (which is already 5 years ago and the previous sonata 2.4 is no longer on sale anymore). You can present a case study as it is already past.
And your friend's old optima, how old is it, and what it the condition? We all know that the resale value of the korean brands are definitely lower to the japanese peer, but RM3k is akin to scrap metal pricing and if you want to make a statement that is beyond reason, please present the facts properly. So either your ex-colleague got screwed big time while you stood aside, the car is really is shit condition (eg flooded), he was just wanting to be "humble" or it truly is the market value (but highly extremely doubtful)
My previous workplace sold off an almost 10 year old infamous naza ria and get so much better pricing then your ex-colleague. And best off all, that said MPV had a really bad patch of rusted door panel almost the size of half a palm and the front bonnet's paint and clear coat faded off due constant sun shine, corrosive environment near the sea port and also the plant has raw materials that are acidic in nature. Further, the car only went for a handful of car washes a year. The condition is definitely below average in general.
So would be "nice" if you clarify.
QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 24 2017, 08:53 PM)
Japanese King Strategist would like to thank the several of you suspected Korean car marketing (but never bought Korean cars personally) for posting dumb suggestions and comments. He is compiling everything to use these comments you guys posted against your company.
You just showed your poor general knowledge. Marketing strategist objectives are to get people to buy the company's product and also to draw people away from competitor. Your mentality must be thinking that Honda won mainly because of its design and specs. People buy Honda mainly because they feel safe to buy and own for long term.
You assumed Korean car owners don't care about resale value at all. Really? So you want to say those who bought Korean cars today, next 5 or 7 years later, they wanted to buy new car, their own cars cannot sell and only get sympathy trade in RM3k for year end sale of certain models on offer? That means cannot buy Mazda that has no discount normally. Car gets poor RV normally due to poor demand for used unit.
Some of us do own korean cars, but you just want to vehemently deny. Nevermind, if you want to play with words, you can ask us to prove our ownership. Nice question, but let us ask you how will you prove our "un-ownership"??
So if we lack general knowledge or lack marketing knowledge, fine. Then educate us with your vast knowledge and superior experience. We are all ready to learn. But beware that some here have hands on knowledge about the technicalities and histories about cars. So if the comments are bull, we'll call the bluff. If it is not clear, those curious will ask for further clarification.
You always stand on the stance of "marketing secrets", then since it is so secret, then keep mum about it la. If you keep want to babble about how shitty is the koreans, you're engaging in negative marketing.
For those that have some sales knowledge (you should have more right??), they will know that merely just shitting the competing product is a very low handed technique and will eventually bring disgust of the audience unless the audience is already biased-ly locked (which most marketers would love to achieve in the shortest time possible).
QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 24 2017, 09:27 PM)
The few of you suspected korean staff that are so terasa of own failure, that's why you get mad and began creating stories and changing facts that others posted especially your foes. Based on several people's comments, my friend's prediction all came true. That's why you're all eyesore.
I'm pretty sure my friend that you're referring did not mention EGR change every year. You lost debate now like crybaby trying to throw whatever you can grab. Now that you mentioned, he must be telling you all about my few years old Santa Fe EGR faulty case. It was clogged up with carbon buildup. My Santa Fe began to jerk and few times almost stalled that u have to pump accelerator few times. I sent to SC, they wanted to charge me money for repair while under warranty. I argued and sent to HQ. They finally willing to replace the badly clogged EGR but no spare parts have to order from Korea waited for 1 month. Several owners of Santa and Starex had such problem after 3 or 4 years. Wonder why no spare part when this case is common?
Who are the suspected ones my dear?
My EGR worked fine even at the 7th year of using it. My car didn't stall nor jerk. So question :
1) did you change your engine oil regularly?
2) did you extend your oil change interval more than 6 months constantly?
3) did you do frequent of cold starts/short drives?
4) was your usual drive route unusually dusty?
5) were you caught in the jam most of the time while owning the santa fe?
From my data base (yes, i have my own source from genuine recorded complaints, not mere forums), the only cause of early EGR failure that has similar circumstances with our driving environment was due to high ambient temperature + extensive idling. And as a matter of fact, for all car models with direct injection (without combination of indirect injection), carbonising issue is common, alike those of the VW/Audi and very much so the Peugeot's THP 1.6L engine. In fact, i have a silent worry that my Mazda have the risk of developing the said issue, and i already have a few plans in mind to reduce it.
QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 27 2017, 10:45 PM)
You, monocle and wkc are most likely with distributors. I'm putting my ace strategist into principal company to solve korean cars poor sales and poor RV issues. So what's with all the hostilities btw? You guys think if he joined HMC, he will attack Kia? Good strategist would come up with plans to take on the best, not own cousin. If he succed, whatever strategies that he implemented would benefit the other sibling company.
I for one (whether you believe or not) doesn't work for the Koreans. As i stated before, if a marketer was lurking around spying, highly likely will just silently observe and if want to comment, will blend in like what normal forummers do.
Unlike you, and your friend who shout out loud and more than once (obviously), I'M THE SUPER STRATEGIST TO KILL THE KOREAN BRANDS. So when you keep harping on this, you surely garner attention, definitely more eyes will be on you because only you and your friend (from the years of using this forum), dare to state this statement. Even the real sales agents don't do that and properly answer queries properly and direct their marketing in the proper channel (garage zone) without your "attention seeking" anti marketing statements
QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 27 2017, 11:44 PM)
Wkc said your company can afford to lose money with poor sales.
Please quote where did i mentioned that my dear
Dude, in short, keep your pride (same for the "king strategist") in check. If cannot engage in constructive conversation in the forum due to "industrial marketing secrets", then stay mum and DESTROY THE ARSED UP KOREANS. Most of us heck care, because we won't know until you and your friend start showing up. Whether you realise or not, you present yourself like the savior, so people will of course take note as seriously, YOU 2 DUDES ARE THE ONLY ONES OUTRAGEOUS ENOUGH TO CLAIM TO BE THE "MESSAIAH" OF THE CAR INDUSTRY in Fast and Furious.
If you can't and still like to harp, who will not notice with such statements constantly? You're almost just short of saying to kowtow to you or king strategist (or be very afraid???!!!
) and we will want you to prove yourself. Then you repeat the similar marketing strategy secrets statements, then it goes on an infinite cycle. Faham??
This post has been edited by wkc5657: Mar 28 2017, 04:07 PM