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Nom-el
post May 15 2017, 07:13 PM

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Many here recommends opening account in ASNB branch but the most important thing is still the staff serving you. Just sharing my relative's experience here. Recently, she tried opening the fixed price funds for non-bumi. As expected, many staff from the banks were unwilling to open the account for her. All the usual excuses were given like the fund is no longer open for subscription, must wait until ASNB opens new fund, only existing account-holders can topup, agents cannot open new account etc.

The surprising thing is even ASNB branch staff gave some of the same crappy excuses. She went there 3 times. 1st time, she was told the fund is no longer open for subscription. She told the staff she just wanted to open the account with 100 units so asked her to check for her. The staff went to the counter to check & told her no units available so cannot open account. When she went there a second time, the staff did not bother to check with the counter at all & just told her no units. On her third visit, she was told cannot open account anymore. Only those with passbook can try to topup. This is despite the fact that my relative showed her that she managed to open a new account in an agent bank just a few weeks ago. The staff just pretended not to see and ignored her. vmad.gif

She finally managed to open the accounts in Affin & CIMB. Initially the staff at CIMB refused to open the account for her. She went again on another day to the same branch & managed to open the account with a different staff. So, it depends on whether the staff is willing to help or not only.
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post Jun 17 2017, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 16 2017, 08:32 PM)
To me FD and ASx same risk. If Asx/PNB collapse banks will be affected.
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I do not agree. Both FD's principal and interest are guaranteed. The principal & return of ASx are not guaranteed.


QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jun 17 2017, 09:32 AM)
don't get me wrong. I have almost 95% in asx. just think it's responsible to inform others on the risk however remote.
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I agree.

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post Jun 17 2017, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 17 2017, 03:16 PM)
PIDM only protects if the bank folded. Other than that, PIDM won't help.
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I am not talking about PIDM here. I am talking about the interest being fixed & guaranteed by the bank meaning you will know how much you will be getting back on maturity. As for ASx, we won't know the returns until distribution is declared. This would depend on the performance of the underlying stocks. You risk getting nothing at all if the performance is really, really bad even though the chances of that happening is really low. As for the principal, it is guaranteed by the bank while ASNB does not guarantee your capital although the price is fixed at RM1. So, I would say it's low risk but not as low as FD's.
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post Jul 28 2017, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jul 27 2017, 04:53 PM)
Sorry just want to confirm.

I need to go back counter to open up another 2 funds right?  I can't do that online isn't it since I oli able to open up ASM just now.

And to top up via portal, I can't click on hantar button at the last step of transaction. Is that normal?
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Are you using a smartphone / tablet to access the portal? If yes, then it is normal. If using PC, it is not. If using phone, you need to tap enter on your phone's online keyboard before you can tap on the 'hantar' button. Make sure to enable pop-ups as well in your phone. Hope it helps.
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post Sep 8 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2017, 06:15 PM)
Wah this question asked don't know how many times already doh.gif  doh.gif

Dividend is calculated based on the lowest amount of the month
Eg 1
You have RM1k from august. You add RM1k today and didn't make a withdrawal, for the month of sept, your dividend calculated is from RM1k and not RM2k

Eg 2
You have RM1k from august. You somehow manage to add RM1k  on 1/9 and didn't make a withdrawal. Dividend for month of sept will be calculated from RM2k

Eg 3
You have RM1k from august. You add RM1k today, you withdraw RM500, dividend for the month of sept will be calculated from RM500.

Eg 4
You have RM1k from august. You somehow manage to add RM1k  on 1/9. You withdraw RM500 on 30/9. Dividend calculated will use RM1500.

Dividend will be paid at the end of the financial year.

You topup money for AS1M on 30/9 you will get dividend for oct. 1/10 is sun. So unless you managed to somehow topup on 1/10, any addition of money for the month of oct will not be counted.
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Your Eg 3 calculation is incorrect. The dividend should be calculated based on RM1000 and not RM500.
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post Sep 8 2017, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 8 2017, 11:26 AM)
Your RM1k is not counted as it was not deposited on the 1st. So the maount counted is RM1k. But because you made a withdrawal of RM500, the lowest amount of the month become RM500.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 8 2017, 11:49 AM)
thanks for sharing, this is new to me. I thought that the rule is that it is based on lowest balance of the month thus the additional 1k should have been counted.
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No, that is not how it is calculated. All purchases and sales are included in the calculation of the daily balance. Then take the minimum for the month. The dividend is based on the minimum balance of the month.

1/9 - Balance = 1k
2/9 - Purchase 1k, New Balance = 2k
Min. Balance = 1k

1/9 - Balance = 1k
2/9 - Purchase 1k, New Balance = 2k
3/9 - Sell 500, New Balance = 1.5k
Min. Balance = 1k

1/9 - Balance = 1k
2/9 - Sell 500, New Balance = 500
3/9 - Purchase 1k, New Balance = 1.5k
Min. Balance = 500

Your calculation is correct only if you sell first before you buy. The sequence matters as it would result in different min. balance.
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post Sep 11 2017, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 11 2017, 10:46 AM)
1/10 coming. AS1M will be up for grabs. Can park in MMF first or affin hwang select bond fund first, then make withdrawal before 1/10.
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Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund is not a good choice for really short-term (less than a month) funds. The price can go up & down as well in the near term and one can only get the proceeds within 10 days after selling it.

QUOTE(wkalvin @ Sep 11 2017, 12:22 PM)
is that means AS1M better than Affin Hwang select bond ?  planned to put in some Affin Hwang, or should try AS1M?
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I would not say either is better than the other. They are both different. One is a fixed price fund that invests primarily in Malaysian equities while the other is a variable price bond fund that invests in Asia ex-Japan region.
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post Sep 11 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 11 2017, 01:00 PM)
It can go up and down but not much. The amount it goes up > amount it goes down. 
Go to FSM MY > research > chart centre > Type Affin hwang select bond fund > click 1 month
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There is no guarantee that the amount it goes up will be more than the amount it goes down. Anything can happen in such a short period of time. If a person can hold the fund for a longer period of time like a few years perhaps, then it would not be a problem if it goes down. Can wait for it to recover eventually. However, for someone who wants to use it in a few weeks time, then he / she might incur losses if it goes down during that time frame.
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post Nov 15 2017, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Nov 15 2017, 09:18 AM)
PIDM is a setup of MOF under Parliament supervision. It is for protecting small investors from losing all their saving.

I think, all the fixed price ASNx fit the profile. Being one of ASNx holders, I'm totally ok for ASNB to spare partly investing return for PIDM premium.

Alternatively, why not allow us to buy the PIDM premium as an option, such as 0.1% of the insured sum.
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PIDM only protects bank deposits & insurance. All investments are not covered by PIDM. Even GIA & money market funds are not covered by PIDM.


QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 15 2017, 02:46 PM)
If all banks in malaysia fail, then really mati lah. What i mean is if one bank like affin fail, pidm can come to rescue for all deposits up to 250k per account.
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Perhaps people who are afraid of PIDM not having enough money to cover all depositors' money in a bank should put their money in the smaller banks like Affin. If the bank is small, maybe PIDM can pay back all the depositors. If the bank is big like Maybank, then it would be hard for PIDM to pay back every depositor. It would be really interesting if people start to do that. Hahaha. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 20 2018, 10:47 AM

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Changes to ASNB unit trust funds effective 1/5/2018

http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/asnbv2_5faq_EN....nkategoritabung


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