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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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foofoosasa
post Nov 10 2017, 04:21 PM

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hey guys,

do the online portal clearly show your dividend credited into your account every year? I just done the online registration today and it's empty inside.
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post Nov 10 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(gruntz99 @ Nov 10 2017, 12:06 PM)
Quick question, can one person setup second or even third ASNB account?
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U mean like example one person have two ASM account under his / her name??

Then nope .

If u saying multiple asnb account.. Then yes.. ASM, asw, as1m, ASB, ASB 2, ASD, asg , ASN, ASN 2 or ASN 3 😁
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post Nov 10 2017, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Nov 10 2017, 12:30 PM)
More than 1M epf no devidend
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Hmm like weird only...

Don't have such thing leh hmm.gif
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post Nov 10 2017, 05:17 PM

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No specific conclusion @tonytyk. Just an illustration only..

After did few spreadsheet studies, personally i feel, doing monthly contribution into ASBN is preferable option than taking loan.

Keep your financial credit score, for other essentials investment such as property, education, unexpected situation.

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Nov 10 2017, 03:40 PM)
what is the conclusion?
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post Nov 10 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 10 2017, 05:17 PM)
No specific conclusion @tonytyk. Just an illustration only..

After did few spreadsheet studies, personally i feel, doing monthly contribution into ASBN is preferable option than taking loan.

Keep your financial credit score, for other essentials investment such as property, education, unexpected situation.
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Correct me if I m wrong, you mean taking loan to invest asnb upfront 200k is worst off than progressive saving to asnb?
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post Nov 10 2017, 08:22 PM

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Difficult to say bro...if both loan interest rate (4.5%) and ASBN dividend (6%) spread, which is now (1.5%) unchange or the spread widen further...than its ok to take loan and put in ASBN.
But if the spread narrow down or in worst case, goes negative..then we must react fast...withdraw ASBN money and settle the loan.
So, many risk associated in this option. But if investor understand fully the risk and know how the handle the risk. Then its very fine.

Again, taking big loan in early career..might cause difficulty in obtaining home loan...bcoz lower credit score..unless bank willibg to consider ur ASBN saving/dividen as asset/income.

So its fully depending on individual. Difficult to generalize.

QUOTE(tonytyk @ Nov 10 2017, 07:52 PM)
Correct me if I m wrong, you mean taking loan to invest asnb upfront 200k is worst off than progressive saving to asnb?
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post Nov 10 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 10 2017, 04:44 PM)
Hmm like weird only...

Don't have such thing leh hmm.gif
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Ya meh, cause someone told me few years back sweat.gif
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post Nov 10 2017, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 10 2017, 04:42 PM)
U mean like example one person have two ASM account under his / her name??

Then nope .

If u saying multiple asnb account.. Then yes.. ASM, asw, as1m, ASB, ASB 2, ASD, asg , ASN, ASN 2 or ASN 3 😁
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Yes, what I meant was one particular account like ASM. Your answer cleared that up.
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Nov 10 2017, 08:26 PM)
Ya meh, cause someone told me few years back  sweat.gif
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There's also people who said above 60yo don't entitle for dividend 😀 and many more incorrect info whistling.gif
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post Nov 11 2017, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 10 2017, 02:04 PM)
Dear AOL24,

pls find spreadsheet 200k@30yrs

assumption
-4.5% loan rate
- 6% dividend tae
- no upfront fee
- dividend re-investment/compounding

i try to upload excel sheet for you, but its not allowed in lowyat forum.
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Thanks for running the numbers, now gotta think long and hard before I start working full-time. The BR or dividend rate might change but one could just terminate the loan before things so sour. Doesn't seem so bad since there's still an "out" so to speak. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Based on news report I saw..
Next year there's high possibility of rate hike by BNM..

So just be careful tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2017, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Nov 10 2017, 08:26 PM)
Ya meh, cause someone told me few years back  sweat.gif
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Don't listen to anyone, just check with EPF. I still received my dividen in end feb this year. brows.gif
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post Nov 11 2017, 10:49 PM

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1. Regarding EPF 1 juta...actually there is option to withdraw if u have more than 1 juta...e.g let say ur EPF balance 1.2 juta...then u can withdraw 200k..even u r below 55 yrs old...
if u decided to keep all 1.2 juta...u still will get dividend for 1.2 juta

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/member/withd...han-rm1-million


2.0 Regarding dividend...EPF will credit dividend until age 100 yrs old


http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._19.07.2017.pdf

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tonytyk
post Nov 13 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2017, 10:49 PM)
1. Regarding EPF 1 juta...actually there is option to withdraw if u have more than 1 juta...e.g let say ur EPF balance 1.2 juta...then u can withdraw 200k..even u r below 55 yrs old...
if u decided to keep all 1.2 juta...u still will get dividend for 1.2 juta

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/member/withd...han-rm1-million
2.0 Regarding dividend...EPF will credit dividend until age 100 yrs old
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._19.07.2017.pdf
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but they quote RM1.05m instead of RM1.0 mi?
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post Nov 13 2017, 03:24 PM

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Minumum withdrawal amount is 50k...thats why mentioned as 1.05 juta...so u could withdraw that 50k..


QUOTE(tonytyk @ Nov 13 2017, 03:07 PM)
but they quote RM1.05m instead of RM1.0 mi?
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post Nov 13 2017, 03:55 PM

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Managed to get some ASW2020 units

go check it out asap
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:02 PM

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How do you all check the limit of ASB?
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:10 PM

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guys sorry to take a shortcut question here, too lazy to read the previous posts, when is the best time to buy in every month? is it on the 1st of each month? thanks
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(houseman @ Nov 13 2017, 04:10 PM)
guys sorry to take a shortcut question here, too lazy to read the previous posts, when is the best time to buy in every month? is it on the 1st of each month? thanks
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last week of each month..

additionally before & after Holiday
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post Nov 13 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Nov 13 2017, 04:17 PM)
last week of each month..

additionally before & after Holiday
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If this month, the 1st of dec fall on Friday. DO you think is a good day to masuk?

I plan to open ASM or AS1M account.

Other than that, I had registered MyASBN account in the portal, so if I successfully opened any of the above 2 accounts, it will automatically appeared in my account at the portal or?

Thank you

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