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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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kkk8787
post Apr 14 2017, 12:35 PM

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How u all allocate fd asnb. 1:1 ? The only benefit of fd is PIDM
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post Apr 14 2017, 01:10 PM

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Thats very high for asm
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post Apr 17 2017, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Apr 17 2017, 12:25 AM)
I think la asm, asd and asw 2020 would probably give same dividen around 6 percent based on last few years data

Anyway i think u can google out tht wahid omar said this year divided is between 5 to 7 percent. If economy turns sour then i think the best they can give is 5 percent if it turns out good then maybe u get 7 percent but 6 percent would be more of a realistic target. But all this i agak2 la.
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I think around 6 6 plus gua....historically always that region
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post Apr 17 2017, 07:09 AM

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actually right, looking at kenanga growth fund, how come rate is higher than ASB quite a bit higher when both are also investing locally
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 17 2017, 08:14 AM)
Because they are not tabung haji devil.gif they dont give out until reserve is worrying. ASB2 alao drop what his year compare to last year. Only not so much because when it gave dividend, KLCI was doing very well (1st 3 months)
Because kenanga growth fund give you back the full return. 100% return means 100%. ASB if earn 100% means give you only 7% only la. Rest they keep as reverse. Also they use reserves to pop up the NAV to RM1/unit.
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long term say 10 20 years which will probabpy give u a better return
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Kenanga growth fund.
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i see...so far seem kgf is one of the best fund in fsm
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 17 2017, 10:43 AM)
7 percent is hard for at least next few years...
For now I think 6% is the rate going forward...
Maybe just minor difference like 6.1 or 6.2 like that +/- tongue.gif
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but kgf i think 10%. Means asnb a lot of reserve
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post Apr 17 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 17 2017, 10:49 AM)
Yes. Asnb funds do have reserves..
That's why dividend consistent & NAV @ rm1 all the time...
Last year or so, I reversed calculated the NAV based on the minimal data available on Annual report booklet.. Seems like the "real" NAV is around rm1.01 only hmm.gif
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then its no longer a real fund. More like some social benefit alteady
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post Apr 17 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 17 2017, 11:40 AM)
Isn't it? It's a political fund for political purpose.
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shh bro shh....
Well if political they should give more, we happy they happy av1 happy
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post Apr 17 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Apr 17 2017, 01:35 PM)
Don't know la political or not but if it is a fund tht gives out fair dividen lets not paint it in a negative light. So far pnb imo is a well managed fund and i hope wahid and team can keep it tht way. Lets hope they can keep greedy hands at bay.
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if consistently above 6 I'm happy d
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post Apr 17 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Apr 17 2017, 02:49 PM)
if can go back to 10% i would be super happy liau!
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if 10 per cent i belanja wahid yumcha. Seriously quite impossible right
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post Apr 17 2017, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Apr 17 2017, 02:56 PM)
i think quite impossible as curently pnb is like a big fish in a small pond. my view is that it can only grow if it goes into a bigger pond or more food goes in the current pond(huge investment from outside).
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lets see what wahid can do
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:19 PM

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Bro wanna azk. Went maybank recently want to update all 3 books. They say now no more printing on passbooks? Really ah. I'm old school still prefer it printed
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post Jul 20 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 20 2017, 09:22 PM)
Yes. Now no more book. Cannot do anything. I prefer book also.
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even asnb branches?
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post Oct 8 2017, 03:22 PM

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Just a question. With wahid on the helm do u guys expect to get higher returns?
And also 6% is the rough limit righr usually wont go lower than that
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post Oct 8 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 8 2017, 04:09 PM)
I must say this year really an important year the dividend payout really can actually see hows the whole operation going on

17 ASM. the first payout. reflect how they perform for the past one year and act as Benchmark for ASW AS1M.

17 ASW. The longest service fund. to see how stable it is. and also Benchmark for AS1M.

17 AS1M. The last rod. using reserved to payout. show the youngest can't really afford to fight against bad Econ.

however from the payout we know a few thing.

lowest will be at 6.0
reserved do actually act as cushion
with current ceo, still having not that clear investment objectives. but things getting better.
2018 we will see how it benefit from the improving market.
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if lowest 6 also still higher than fd
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post Dec 9 2017, 01:41 PM

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Is it just be or recently very difficult to get units already for all 3 non bumi
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post Dec 12 2017, 05:59 PM

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wah no units at all today on MyASNB
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post Dec 21 2017, 09:01 PM

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Hmm last few days no success at all and a sum in savings no where to go. How u all so successful
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post Dec 24 2017, 02:13 PM

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Myasnb closed today?

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