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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Aug 14 2017, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(rachy @ Aug 14 2017, 12:32 PM)
Ah I get it now. Thanks so much! smile.gif

Can get your advise? I have a bond fund with PB, bought since long ago when I was fresh to investment and didn't do research. After calculating XIRR, its only 4%. Should take out all and put into ASNB instead? Much higher returns right? Was going to consider KGF but like you said unit trusts operates differently.
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4% you better put FD. Bond should match/beat
1) affin hwang select bond fund
2) amanah saham fixed price fund

There are other unit trust other than KGF. You can check them out on FSM MY.

Amanah saham fixed price is also a unit trust devil.gif
QUOTE(frankzane @ Aug 14 2017, 01:53 PM)
ASG cannot meh?
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Why choose ASG when better options are available? devil.gif

Besides I already said
1) ASG service charge 5.5%
FSM MY service charge 1.75%
2) Kenanga Growth fund beats ASG hands down year after year (which means if you put same amount into both ASG and KGF, you get more money with KGF)

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Ramjade
post Aug 15 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 15 2017, 01:46 PM)
I wonder since many don't come back to Malaysia..
How do they all withdrew their ASx money???

No one have answer this question??? I'm curious..
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Take PR quietly but no need give up IC??? If citizenship then yes, need to give up passport, IC.
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post Aug 15 2017, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 15 2017, 03:21 PM)
Okay..
On the part of withdrawing & then TT overseas without coming here??

Remembered someone post that?? How can such thing happen??? blink.gif
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Can always come back once a year what.
Ramjade
post Aug 15 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 15 2017, 04:39 PM)
Thank you, bro,... appreciated yr explanations,... wow, really great gov't we have here,... I think this is the only country like this,... in SG, they are bonded,... If nobody disputes to your statements above after this, then they are true.

Then,... if full schemes, without bonds, then surely many run away after they studied overseas. The overseas gov't also may take them,.. If full schemes without bonding, just aids,... there is no reason to track them down, bro,... they have ALL the rights to run away,...

I think ONLY Malaysia has this kind of privilege for her people,... err, the Bumiputras. ... Yes, that's why brain drain,... The New Economic Policy benefitting other gov'ts and other countries in the end.

I beg to differ on the current PTPTN, bro,... it's more strict now, they are really putting in effort to collect back the loans.

Yes, mentality,... I call it differently,... I call it the quality of the people.
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That's why big hoohaa when those PTPTN people are put on to black list and cannot go out of the country.
Reason: Previous batch not affected hence current affected batch not happy.

But I believed all debts should be paid. Come on you don't pay, how other people going to study?

Now JPA alao making parents pay full if students don't come back.
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post Aug 16 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(toccata @ Aug 16 2017, 09:00 PM)
Anyone know of any way to withdraw ASB funds if you're abroad ie without being physically present at the counter? I know you can deposit/invest online e.g. via Maybank but withdrawal usually requires going to the counter. Thanks
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Cannot. tongue.gif With what people said those holding other country PR/citizenshipcan still hold ASNB, good also ASNB make sure people cannot withdraw online. Hope they don't implement online withdrawal (so more people cannot abuse the system)

QUOTE(degionz @ Aug 16 2017, 10:03 PM)
Yes agree what u said no point putting money in the bank as saving account.
FD interest rate is low
Tomorrow going to open ASM account 😁
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Do like me. Transfer all my FDs into amanah saham. No need to keep going to bank every year from one bank to another to get best promo rate. biggrin.gif
Yes, I am one of those who contribute to Malaysian banks have low level of deposit devil.gif devil.gif
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...worrying-banks/

If they want my money, they gonna give me higher rates. bruce.gif flex.gif

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post Aug 17 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 17 2017, 09:04 AM)
Ytd i purposely take half day leave, went to Affin Bank near my house to open ASX account.

The staff "opened" a "general" ASX account for me.
However when the staff trying to open either 3 of the non-bumi fixed price fund for me, it was all out of units, even after several trials.

The staff asked me to come again to try my luck when I am free.

So now I opened a "general" ASX account, but do not have any specific fund (e.g ASM, ASW, AS1M) under it?
Feeling meh ..... didn't know it works that way.

If like this, can i go Maybank near my office to try to open the specific fund?
Or i am forced to go back to that Affin Bank branch only?
Forgot to ask the staff, feeling blurred at that time cuz didn't know it works that way.

Remark: The Affin Bank's staff didn't provide me any document at all even i already opened a "general" ASX account.
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1. I think the staff went and open for you ASG. There's no such thing as general ASX account. Ask them what account is it?
2. You can go to any agent branch however as people said,
- ASNB and affin is a better place to open
- This time make you sure you are specific. Tell them you only want (ASW, ASM, AS1M account)
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post Aug 17 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Aug 17 2017, 09:42 AM)
ASG u means Gemilang? I am sure that is not the case.

The staff did asked me which account i want.
and i specifically said ASW, ASM, AS1M.
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Because by default staff will open ASG/ASN3 for you. They will never open ASw, ASM, AS1M unless you ask for it. There's no such thing as general account. THe only thing same across all account is the same account no.

Looks like you didn't get your account after all (you can always check with the agents/asnb what account do you have)
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post Aug 17 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Aug 17 2017, 09:51 AM)
i thought you are suppose to get an account #

if they tell you no units available, there is nothing you can do

since maybank is near to you, just go everyday. Now i believe only ASM has better chance.

ASW announcing interest for 2017 on 31/8

AS1M on 30/9.

Visit after these dates, i guess better chance to secure these 2
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Last time yeah. Tak dapat buka account, the account they tried with zero unit will be closed automatically. Don't know whether it's the same or not with with today's new system.
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post Aug 22 2017, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Aug 22 2017, 08:12 PM)
First thing that you all must do is,.......................

TO GAIN INVESTMENT KNOWLEDGE !!!!!!! No other way to start !!
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Got. Buy UT. DCA into a UT which invest overseas, problem settle.
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post Aug 23 2017, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(neo3koolio @ Aug 23 2017, 05:25 PM)
haha just curious any formula to estimate payout dividen formula?
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Look at current bursacondition and look at past payment. Usually the payment is the same across all 3 products. Usually.
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post Aug 23 2017, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 23 2017, 06:06 PM)
See who's talking..
Sendiri have million in ASx, asking who who laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 24 2017, 09:15 PM)
it will not be far from ASM or AS1M. likely 6.1 to 6.3 imo. anyhow, tomorrow last day to topup ASW before closing for dividend calculation.
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Topup tomorrow also not counted tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Aug 25 2017, 11:35 AM)
Thanks Alex,

May I know how they give dividen ? bank in to account?
and dividen rate is prorate from purchase date?
tqvm
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Think of asnb fixed price products like a hybrid FD where you can withdraw the money anytime on the spot (no waiting time)

Dividend is auto added back into the your main holdings unless such time they decide to give cash instead devil.gif

Dividend is prorated and calculated based on the lowest amount every month.
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post Aug 26 2017, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jinglexo @ Aug 26 2017, 07:48 PM)
If I have bullet on 11/9 should I top up for ASM or asW ?
Is it both also don't give one month dividend of top up on 11/9 for Sep month?
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Go topup ASW when it resume for transaction on first week of Sept or else you need to wait for 1 year to topup.
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post Aug 27 2017, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 26 2017, 11:44 PM)
Dear all, I'm starting to read this thread, now at Page 22  tongue.gif

Went to Maybank branch last Friday to ask how to open accounts for ASW, ASM, AS1M.. Staff informed me they cannot open account because they cannot see if there is any fund available. Advised me to open at PNB branch because they know real time of fund availability. Maybank staff then informed me that once I have an account, I can top up fund OTC as they can check whether there is any fund available. I konfius, why now can see when if there is any fund available when to open account they cannot see the funds availability.

Went to post office, told the same thing, advised to go to PNB office to open account.

Call up PNB office, was told no fund available and there are two person waiting to open account there (in other words, don't waste your time coming here)

A few questions which I hope experts here can clarify:
1. Does it mean that I have to camp at PNB office to open account, before I can do the topping up at agents? This is a problem due risk of holding too much cash as I won't know how much fund is available on that day.

2. Can I view availability of fund if I link my newly opened account to M2U and buy online? The MBB staff told me can sell online, but to top up I must do it OTC.

3. Was told by Maybank, I need to open separate accounts for ASW, ASM, AS1M. True?
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1. You kena bluff already. Any agent can open for you. You should not have ask have to go pnb and open is it becauae if cause they tell you to go there. Less job for them. But PNB is supposely the easiest to open as they can see the availability of unit in real time. However sometimes agent are better at opening account as they are willing to try for you. Sometimes the opposite. No need call them to ask got unit available or not. No unit available is the standard answer. Just go and open. If cannot open, just wait there and ask them to try.

2. You can see how many units it's available on sale. You can see how much you have and topup online. The website is Myasnb. Not M2U. Topping up online via myasnb is free compare to using m2u where they will charge you rm1.06 regardless of it's successful.

3. Yes. Different account but same no for all.

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post Aug 27 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 27 2017, 11:29 AM)
2. After opening account, do we have access to Myasnb by default, and payment is by internet banking? I thought it can be done in M2U after I googled and got directed at M2U page.
Edit: just remembered what you wrote about the RM1.06 by MBB regardless of success or failure.

Once again, thank you both for your time and explanation. Much appreciated. Meanwhile, I shall continue reading this thread.
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No. You need to register online for myasnb account. Just make sure to include register your phone no with them for verification purpose.

The m2u as mentioned will charge you rm1.06 regardless if you are successful or fail to get any unit per try. Myasnb let you view everything (all your funds)
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post Aug 27 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Aug 27 2017, 03:05 PM)
Took out my FD to put in ASx also. But 4 digit amount only. Can't even qualify for most FD promo, no point park in FD when ASx got better returns
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Do that. I have done that ablong long time ago (transfer all my FD into amanah saham). No need to run to banks every year to ask for promos.

QUOTE(Grevade @ Aug 27 2017, 03:05 PM)
I will try open an account tmrw.

Just want to clarify a few things
1. Can we withdraw online or can only be done OTC?
2. How is the dividend calculated? Lowest balance based on each month?
3. Topup and withdrawal can only be done on working day?
Thanks in advance
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1. No online withdrawal.
2. Yes. Lowest amount of the month will be used to count the dividend.
3. Of course. Topup can be done via My asnb. Withdrawal, agent banks, post office, asnb branches.

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 27 2017, 06:18 PM)
is the any service charge imposed by bank ejen if we sell asm at bank?
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ASM beli/jual percuma. Tak ada charge.

QUOTE(Jinglexo @ Aug 27 2017, 07:20 PM)
If let say wanted to sell everything one day. Is there any max limit per day? Just in case anything happen and wanted to withdraw lumpsum. Can agent bank trf everything or need to go to Pnb office?
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If withdraw as cash RM25k at banks
RM10k at new agent banks (the one with orange sticker at door)
RM5k at post office
Unlimited if withdraw straight to bank account.

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QUOTE(rachy @ Aug 28 2017, 10:25 AM)
Sorry ramjade, could you explain this? How come cannot topup for one year? This dividend is kinda confusing. I thought even after dividend declared you still get it based on lowest amount every month? And can topup whenever? Sorry if I got it wrong.
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Higher chance of topup when it resume for transaction rather than your original plan of waiting for 11/9 to topup. Yes lowest amount for the month.
Any topup for all amamah saham products for the month of September will not be counted as one didn't topup on 1st of September (1/9 is public holiday).

You want it to be counted for month of September, topup noe until 30th tongue.gif

Of course ASW already suspended already and that leave you with 2 stuff to topup only tongue.gif

QUOTE(wkalvin @ Aug 28 2017, 10:41 AM)
after open account with ASM rm100, can top up ASM only? can buy ASW/AS1M online?  tqvm
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Yup. You want asw, as1m go open that account.

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post Aug 28 2017, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Diamondhead @ Aug 28 2017, 11:30 PM)
Hello guys I am just 19 this year and I have 10k. Which plan should I invest in to pay off my study loan partially in 5 years time? Thank you.
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None. See this.
How I Paid Off My 58K Education Loan

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