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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Jun 11 2018, 04:30 PM

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got 3000 myr asm.

lol

too bad sudah kering. can top up also no money
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post Jun 12 2018, 10:13 AM

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AS1M on saleeee
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post Jun 13 2018, 03:21 PM

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1. no major diff between asm, asw, and as1m.
2. track record show similar dividends rate.
3. you will only lost dividend of the month and even the units if you do so.
4. I find no reason after years seeing people doing this.

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post Jun 18 2018, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jun 18 2018, 08:31 PM)
no such thing
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why u even bother to reply LOL
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post Jun 18 2018, 08:50 PM

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Ramjade

How to calculate IRR for ASx FP?

Can list here? I really wish to compared to the FSM Anualised 15%
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post Jun 21 2018, 06:08 PM

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wwaaaaa.... new head incoming

I suggest new head abolish the reserve thinking.

no need reserve. just give all out what we earn. what for reserve.

bad market then bad la. it's not every year
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post Jun 21 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Hellkite @ Jun 21 2018, 06:36 PM)
Well, investors who invest in ASx like the constant dividends and little volatility in returns. If they want to expose themselves fully to market vagaries then they will be investing more in equities rather than unit trusts.
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Jun 21 2018, 06:38 PM)
ASx - money that u not afford to loss
Equities - money that u afford to loss
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Exactly. Since our price will remain at 1.00. No point put reserve. One shall not depend on dividend to survive.

And I rather some year get double digit return rather than every year 6%.

and most of the holding in ASNB is dividend stocks or most of them are blue chips and liquid *money market. I will believe it will at least beat the FD rate. around 4 maybe?

Because from what I noticed, they always announce they can give 10% la, 12% la but reserve 5%..... Whats the point? What with the 5%? You let it roll? We investor never know where the 5 go? Since the 5 is not in the form of reinvest? Where are all the reserve go? In report no mentioned also.

Market wont be bad for 2 3 years. at most 1 year like now in which very shitty condition....Most of the year will get 8 or 9 why not? bad years 3 is ok.
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post Jun 21 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Jun 21 2018, 09:56 PM)
The point of reserve is that when market collapsed, said -20%, it still able to paid dividend.

What you may wanted is the usual unit trust perhaps? There will be some years with double digit return, but also some years with negative returns...
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you got to look into how asnb function..... what field they invest.... which stocks they hold..... type of investment..... and latest benchmark........
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post Jun 26 2018, 07:01 PM

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when will the windows for ASM open again?

I increase my target to this fund.
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post Jun 28 2018, 02:50 PM

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so hard.

me wait to shoot asm only seeing how terrible the market now.

Open gate la, the whole asnb also lost 7% over last few weeks. Fast fast elt us in la
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post Jun 28 2018, 05:31 PM

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ASD 6.25.
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post Jun 29 2018, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 29 2018, 02:06 PM)
Wtf mad.gif
This really make me angry..
Well I know..everyone knows PNB is "link" & support UMNO policy... Which including safeguarding bumi interest...
But donations part is really big...

Someone needed to do police report & also to MACC...

And this news make me wonder.. Ever since Wahid comes.. The dividend keep dropping... Excuses given.. Because of market conditions... But where all the reserved... Now I know it went to UMNO politician pockets mad.gif
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which is why i DONT SUPPORT RESERVES system.

no report of where the reserve go y-o-y.
but people yet to mature. some forumer even say reserve is important.

i already do some calculation. with reserve, we earn less. without reserve we earn more becasue of the compunding interest!!!
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post Jun 29 2018, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Jun 29 2018, 03:25 PM)
I wasn't supporting reserve, but it was unrealistic or even sounds ponzi to have fixed price fund without reserve.
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why leh....

you give back how much you earn ma.... where got ponzi.

if reserve more ponzi. the money go where come from where also dont mnow
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post Jun 29 2018, 05:55 PM

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OH MY GODDDD


ZETIIIII



BEST NEWS EVER!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 30 2018, 10:03 AM

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since zeti will be on the throne start from tomorrow, I suppose, out chance getting units will become smaller and slimmer.....

I think the first benchmark for Zeti will be

ASM.

Simply because asw2020 and as1m just around the corner, the perf for this two funds isn't the correct fund to gauge the health status of zeti era.
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post Jun 30 2018, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 30 2018, 02:06 PM)
Well if he didn't give "donations" to UMNO & openly oppose the removal of GST prior to GE14.. I'm sure he would still be at PNB...

U see Najib brother... Still at CIMB... But don't know how long.. Maybe until March 2019 (contract expires)...
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he keluar ad lol
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post Jul 5 2018, 06:55 PM

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waaaa. take dividend also can FIRE ad.

lol.

Ramjade
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post Jul 12 2018, 03:33 PM

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ASM bila available la.....

omg my neck long ad
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post Jul 16 2018, 02:00 PM

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why aswwww....

I want asm
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post Jul 17 2018, 11:35 AM

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trield half hours ad.. non

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