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post Mar 24 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(yvonne2016 @ Mar 23 2017, 04:12 PM)
I’m just “ thinking out loud “ with regards to
ASM being suspended from today till month end for calculation of Div
Is it necessary to wait so many days for PNB “ boss “ to announce
the “ Dividend “ to the investors.
Nowadays, with high tech here and there,
Need so many many days meh,
Surely , calculation can be done with one touch button loh…
If announce in a day or two ,
least , we as investors , can decide whether to continue stayput with PNB
Or venture into other investment sectors

hmmmmm
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I agree it takes longer than other FI usually do, such as EPF and banks.

I believe time is required for finalizing the entitled subscriptions, and the comprehensive verification after added the dividend.






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post Mar 28 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Mar 28 2017, 04:54 PM)
Never knew that!
Technically speaking 1 unit is RM1, so that means we can buy a fraction of 1 unit in that case.
But still it's a little strange.
Why do you key in cents, its more troublesome isn't it? Lol.
Maybe just play play only.

- Would be a good way to make the balance become .00 in the passbook though.
Probably that's what you're doing.
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Yah - likely, bought in sens was a bug!

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post Mar 29 2017, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 10 2017, 09:19 AM)
Why would PNB want to suspend the portal for? Just because there's no units available? They never bothered to suspend transactions for ASM, AS1M and ASW via OTC when units were scarce. Banks didn't offer these funds via their internet banking portals because it's batch and don't want the hassle of refunds.

It's all about demand and supply. Somebody needs to sell in order for units to be able to be bought regardless of channel, simple as that.

Oh and to the earlier posted targeting 6.1% returns for ASM, I'd be pretty amazed if PNB can do it  drool.gif
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Because, it has not been released officially to all members. We all now is "curi pakai".

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post Apr 11 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(yvonne2016 @ Apr 11 2017, 11:35 AM)
READING PLEASURE -

SERIOUS ABOUT FIGHTING CORRUPTION? THEN TAKE AWAY LARGE CURRENCY NOTES – PNB CHIEF TELLS GRAFT-TAINTED NAJIB REGIME


Immobilising large currency notes could help create a crime-less and corruption-less Malaysian society, said Permodalan Nasional Bhd Group chairperson Abdul Wahid Omar.

He said another measure included mandating large transactions to be done electronically as well as providing an audit trail.

“Mitigating crime and corruption risks is possible as the world is moving towards a cashless society.

“Technology has advanced so far that mobile payments are enabled and the cost of point-of-sale terminal is affordable for mass deployment,” he said.

Abdul Wahid said this at the Malaysian Institute of Accountants’ 50th Anniversary Commemorative Lecture today.

He said lower-denominated notes should be made available to facilitate small transactions.

BERNAMA  - 10 APR 2017
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If you are interested to see the real world, dropping by at Aeon Big in Putrajaya during weekend, observing how those Malay ladies are doing their payment with cash for their mountain goods on trolley.


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post Apr 27 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Apr 27 2017, 10:26 AM)
today got dapat put in 3k through portal smile.gif

bros usually how long they take to update the system.. i want to go update book
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Instantly
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post Jun 2 2017, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Jun 1 2017, 06:34 PM)
hmm no passbooks then how for those vets and older ppl to update/withdraw their account? dont think it will happen despite it is a good initiative
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Don't worry! Because, these folks have never missed stock trading as well, which also has no physical books.
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post Jul 14 2017, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jul 13 2017, 03:28 PM)
certain points are valid, but again what is the purpose of living just to save? need to have some balance with life quality.
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Absolutely, saving for next generation is a most stupid human behaviour. Whereas, saving for living later is a wise thing to do.

Saving is a very big and complicated subject. Those who understand well the saving, definitely, taking advantage of it in their life. Otherwise, the life could be very miserable.

I'm early 50 and enjoying a good life now from my past saving. Money are like dropping from the sky consistently everyday, and yet, I don't have to work.

Saving at the age of 25+ is VERY DIFFERENT than 45+. The power of saving is coming from there.





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post Jul 14 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Jul 14 2017, 09:31 AM)
i am in mid 30's any good advice on saving..the do's and the dont's

with the rise in the cost of living saving is a challenge...
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I never own a car more than RM100K whereas most of my peers drive BMW/Audi/Merz.

I live in a linked house despite affordable for semi-D or bungalow, rather bought few properties as an investment.

I bought bulk goods during promotion.

and .....many other ways

The concept is living below your entitled class. If you are earning RM8K now, live under self illusion that you are earning 5K only. So, adjust your living standard according to RM5K.

In the real world, most people who earn RM8K, actually, live under illusion of earning > RM10K. So, they spend what they should not. They are not qualified for those living materials or entertainment.

That explains so many junior executives drives new Japanese or European cars. Should them use their future money so much?

Have you calculated how much they can save in their whole life if they delay owning these cars, or buying a cheap "domestic" car.

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post Jul 14 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Jul 14 2017, 11:22 AM)
is linked house better investment compared to semi-d?

why so? sorry ask coz i just plan to buy one .. actually loan approved already.. house is for me to live but also just in case if anything happen i can sell
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Buying a property for investment or self occupying is a very different approach.

Let say, a semi-D is RM1.6M and a linked house is RM800K.

If you occupy the RM1.6M property, basically, you are spending equivalent to RM8,000 rental every month (ROI 6% X 1.6M div 12months).

If you occupy the RM800K property, basically, you are spending equivalent to RM4,000 rental every month (ROI 6% X 800 div 12months).

If the semi-D is the only house you have, would you sell it for capital gain? If so, after selling, would you down grade to a cheaper house, or buying another semi-D. If you are buying another semi-D or upgrade for a better one, your capital gain is no more as a gain. Your semi-D price goes up, so do others.

If you think, paying RM8K rental every month, is slightly below your living class. Then, go for it.

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post Jul 20 2017, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 20 2017, 08:05 AM)
not a good idea for online withdrawal. Need to take into security risk, especially for older generation who are not tech savvy. Risk of account being hacked, money transferred to other bank is there.

Older people are always the victims of scam. PNB needs to protect this group of people.
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Full internet banking is unavoidable. Your concern can be resolved by offering option to those who want to remain physical withdraw facility.
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post Jul 25 2017, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(vl319 @ Jul 24 2017, 10:09 PM)
Some advise dont do that as in future LHDN may ask mybkids to justify.
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Yes. They will be questioned one day, even, confiscating the money. If your money is so dirty.

Otherwise, keep all the money transaction records from your account to their accounts, as an evidence.


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post Aug 30 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 30 2017, 04:52 PM)
Oh yeah.....
But seriously.. What's taking so long to announced the bloody dividend...
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Maybe, they have forgotten.

Make a call to remind them.



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post Aug 30 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 30 2017, 06:45 PM)
already announced  tongue.gif
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After my reminding phone call.

Not a good dividend.
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post Sep 7 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 7 2017, 08:01 AM)
I hoping for 7% tongue.gif

But in reality, it would be around 6% only
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GE is coming. Someone is looking for donors. Sorry, not looking, forcing donors to donate to the party.

Obviously, those companies have to squeeze out a BIG fund to the party.

So, we all know, what are these companies.

That explains, petrol up again this week, which moving against oil market trend.

So, don't expect too much on ASNB.

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post Sep 25 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 25 2017, 01:07 AM)
Don't needed to argue on the dividend..
Close eye can know its 6% rate..
Unless some hidden hands interference name it higher (which I doubt) whistling.gif maybe reality for ASB tongue.gif
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I guess so. The decision will be made based on the political justification which allowing 60% Bumi, 30% Chinese and 10% Indian happy is a "right" thing to invest or not, in their perspective.


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post Sep 28 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2017, 12:26 PM)
Already said previously...
Its 6% dividend rate..
U can never go wrong with the figure as the funds follow each others rate whistling.gif
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I have confirmed my AS1M just now, the release of my dividend is 6%.

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post Oct 2 2017, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 2 2017, 03:35 PM)
Yes. Bring IC. Fill up orange form. Then go to counter.
Cash. If no bank account, max you can take out is RM25k. If got bank account, unlimited. ASNB > Bank account > cash. Of course you need to go to the bank with the bank account you have (eg. Cimb/maybank, withdraw at Cimb/Maybank)
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It is not unlimited. For banks, max withdraw is RM100k per day.

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post Oct 2 2017, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 2 2017, 09:20 PM)
Where did you get this source? Maybe should claify with ASNB customer service.
The source is from Maybank. You may check it out.
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post Oct 3 2017, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 3 2017, 12:27 AM)

Later will go ask ASNB and see.
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Please also do verification from ASNB that the Maybank staff said the withdrawal daily limit is even lower in ASNB office.
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post Nov 15 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 14 2017, 08:17 PM)
If u assumed that as capital guaranteed.. Then I got no comments..

Because there's no such term as capital guaranteed UT...

Heck there's no such UT anywhere in the world.. Only in Bolehland.. All because of helping certain people initially, later open up to others after some "political pressures" whistling.gif
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PIDM is a setup of MOF under Parliament supervision. It is for protecting small investors from losing all their saving.

I think, all the fixed price ASNx fit the profile. Being one of ASNx holders, I'm totally ok for ASNB to spare partly investing return for PIDM premium.

Alternatively, why not allow us to buy the PIDM premium as an option, such as 0.1% of the insured sum.

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