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ch_leong
post Jul 31 2017, 11:43 PM

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because some negative sentiments these two years.

1. investment in KL118 / warisan merdeka tower.
2. linking of PNB to 1mdb. It was mentioned by rafizi that pnb bought sukuk bond from 1mdb.
3. outgoing of tun mohd sarji/kamah piah. later replaced by maybank CEO wahid. (which i think it is positive. Wahid loves investment in FINTECH)

If you read the Annual Report sent by PNB you should aware of about 10% (>50K unit) of investors holding 70%-80% of the fund!!!
I'd suggest you read carefully the annual report and look at their portfolio.

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jul 31 2017, 05:48 PM)
it has been debated. UT has proper governance. it has nothing to do with 1mdb. most of us got the opportunity to open account and topup in high volume 2 years back due to this fear.
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ch_leong
post Aug 3 2017, 04:16 PM

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both ASM and AS1M are available now. ASW no fund.
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post Aug 6 2017, 11:09 PM

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LMAO. U made my day.

Probably he is referring to 100K ppl who invested >RM50K and 7K ppl who invested >RM500K are not wise. hahahahah.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 6 2017, 09:13 PM)
I heard you eat too much MSG until mind blown.

Anyway, the best instrument for you is BSA. Basic saving account.
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ch_leong
post Aug 10 2017, 09:17 PM

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not managed to top up ASW. but ASM and AS1M plenty. No luck.
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post Aug 11 2017, 12:00 PM

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Want a balanced portfolio among three funds. thats y need work harder on ASW

QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 10 2017, 10:41 PM)
got what, sapu what.
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ch_leong
post Aug 18 2017, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Aug 18 2017, 10:50 PM)
What is the daily transaction limit for online top up through fpx? It's cap by 30k per bank or 30k per fpx transaction(e.g. Can it be 30k x 3 times from the same bank in a day)?
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FPX
An online payment gateway system to facilitate payment between participating financial institutions

Minimum limit per transaction:
RM1.00

Maximum limit per transaction:
RM30,000

*The above transaction value limit, however, is subject to the customer's individual Internet Banking limit with the bank, whichever is lower.
check your maybank2u transaction limit settings.
ch_leong
post Aug 21 2017, 10:11 PM

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let me try the game icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Aug 21 2017, 12:41 AM)
There's some crossword puzzle contest on ASNB Facebook page. 20 winners get RM200 worth of ASNB units each. Testing luck  lol.gif
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ch_leong
post Aug 22 2017, 06:00 PM

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so sad. time to sell perhaps

QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Aug 22 2017, 03:45 PM)
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ts-investments/
Same thinking.. dividend rate keep dropping  bye.gif
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ch_leong
post Aug 27 2017, 11:24 PM

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monday will announce ASW2020 dividend? XD
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post Sep 19 2017, 11:32 PM

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faster sell it then

QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 19 2017, 10:30 PM)
AS1M
5.55%

no data no fact
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ch_leong
post Sep 29 2017, 11:11 PM

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2017=asm=asw=as1m=6% LOL
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post Oct 30 2017, 08:19 PM

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Maybe will rebrand. Amanah Saham TN50

QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Oct 30 2017, 02:26 PM)
it's just a name. it will go on. and if abolished, don't think it's cus of the name.
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ch_leong
post Nov 24 2017, 12:40 PM

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quite easy to top up any ASX fund today with a small amount between 500 to 2K
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post Dec 1 2017, 10:57 PM

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you need to do more research on other funds if you want VP fund. So many fund out there providing various return and different combination.
One way to start is by reading materials in FundSupermart. You can check out the fundsupermart thread.
I did park some $$ into VP fund under PRS category to claim income tax deduction.



QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Dec 1 2017, 07:07 PM)
I see. I call I it non fixed fund usually haha.

But then all these VP normally the price per unit ver close to rm 1 or above rm 1. So I am curious or perhaps I would like to hear some advice from Sifu-Sifu that all these VP fund ignored the interest rates also 6% + which is close to fixed fund, is it still a bad investment? hmm.gif

Thank you notworthy.gif
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post Dec 3 2017, 11:56 PM

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You need to keep operating cost as low as possible. The more branches you opened, the more overhead incurred. Who pay branches rental, computer, electricity and manpower?
This overhead is taken from your pocket.
When you use agent, you have less overhead. Agent charges based-on number of transaction basis.
You made a point, when they open branches, they take cash and give cash. Where is this cash from? Handling cash is very risky and involved a lot of cost. You need security, then need security van to deliver cash and send cash.
So, i think the best is close all the branches. Let online platform, post office and bank run for them. Better still if they can leverage fundsupermart to help them on the VP fund.

If you run carnival in pavillion and mid valley, who pay the rental? If you do at padang, it is very low cost. In fact, the new PNB boss is very pandai in cost cutting. They no longer need send paper statement, update passbook. imagine the cost of sending annual report. Assuming each cost RM10 to print, pack, send. 1million subscribers incurred RM10million.
How good if this 10million is giving back to you?

Look it at this way, a little bit of inconvenience which gives you a better return.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 3 2017, 09:01 PM)
their carnival lately is not good I must say. who the hell go to carnival for investment stuff? And on padang padang? LOL

should have made it in the mall. midvalley, pavilion, etc etc.

and more branch. stop hoping on agent. they wont do a good job.

hope them, can abolish agent and set up own branch with simple task like updating purchasing withdrawing. I think the only drawback is withdrawing, they don't hold that much cash as compared to bank?
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post Dec 5 2017, 11:05 AM

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I hisgh suspect a few factors

1. Unit diluted because of dividend paid in unit. If they distribute you RM, you would have better return. (possible)
2. New unit invested in new investment does not yield a better return especially in equities because new shares bought in higher price.
3. Existing investment does not perform well as compared to previously.
4. They retain the earnings for future.
5. some monies being invested in the new 100 storey building which the current chairman does not like it but he has no choice because the whole thing already started.

Do check out their P/L statement in the annual report.
A few thing you will notice
1. Increasing of overhead - manpower/salary and agent fee. Which now they try to control it by using MyASNB top up. there will be one time expense to build this system.
2. Increasing of management fees.
3. Decreasing of investment income via dividend. which indicated that Malaysia equities does not pay a better dividend.
4. They sell more shares to get more income to distribute to unit holders. Not sure good or bad unless they deemed such sale will dispose bad shares, or, those shares are part of investment return or treasury shares given by companies.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 4 2017, 01:32 AM)
I don't mind cost cutting if my return is >6.3%. Instead,  all the fund drop and gave only 6%. So mana semua savings pergi?
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ch_leong
post Dec 28 2017, 12:01 PM

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all sapu by yvonne
QUOTE(dlttdltt @ Dec 28 2017, 11:59 AM)
Really ? Thanks  smile.gif

Trying now still cannot get any units.
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ch_leong
post Jan 9 2018, 01:02 PM

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no luck today
The transaction was declined due to insufficient units available. Please try again later (068)
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post Jan 10 2018, 12:05 AM

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today i no luck also
QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 9 2018, 10:15 PM)
Y u all so easy to get. Past 1 month 1 at least 30 attempts d I think not even one. Tough luck?
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ch_leong
post Jan 16 2018, 01:20 AM

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cimbclicks? you shd register in MYASNB not cimb

QUOTE(whirlwind @ Jan 15 2018, 01:26 PM)
Hi all, I just registered my ASW2020 in my cimbclicks. I’m a non bumi so does it mean if I want to top up my ASW2020, it’s almost impossible?

Sorry I’m newbie over here.
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