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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Mar 26 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Mar 26 2017, 08:31 PM)
Hi bro, so when can withdraw all? (Or top up?)
At 1/4 or after that?
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Er. Don't know.

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post Mar 27 2017, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 27 2017, 10:48 AM)
i am non bumi and i have 3 asnb account - asm, as1m, asw2020
question:
1. is there any way to check the current balance in my account other than update the bank book? (eg. online?)
2. where to update the bank book?
3. where/which bank can i topup/withdraw my accs?
4. is there any certain limit of topup my acc per transaction? (eg. max limit of each acc?)
5. what is the procedure to buy units? go to bank and say, i wan to buy 1000 unit and the bank will keep trying to search until available?
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1. I think you cna check online at the web portal. Not very sure as I buy and forget.. Once a year go update book.
2. Affin/maybank/cimb/rhb/post office /asnb branches.
3. The locations mentioned above. But if you don't account, and you choose cash, withdrawal limit is RM25k/day. Withdrawal limit for post office is lower.
4. No limit. Limit is based on what's available on the market. If you use cash it's RM50k day.
5.Yes. But now with official free online platform to topup, no need to visit bank.
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post Mar 27 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:27 PM)
may i know what is the link to the online platform u mentioned?
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https://www.myasnb.com.my/
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post Mar 27 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(yvonne2016 @ Mar 27 2017, 02:23 PM)
any " insider" news
of when ASM , & ASG div
will be announced ?  hmm.gif

quess will be over 6%  drool.gif
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Dividend in ASG is useless whistling.gif
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post Mar 27 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Mar 27 2017, 02:49 PM)
ASG Pendidikan 4.5%, ASG Kesihatan 4.25%, ASG Persaraan 5.15%.

On a different note, I happened to look at ASN price today, and noticed that I've made 14% return in 18 months. Hahaha, not too bad. Gonna sell ASN today and lock the profits. So yeah, there's always a way to make decent profits from ASNB variable unit trust funds.   smile.gif
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Still useless.

QUOTE(kovin @ Mar 27 2017, 02:52 PM)
Why say so? Why keep seeing the same comment?
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ASG is variable price fund. So eg give you 7% dividend, the NAV of the fund also drop by 7%. dry.gif So it's the same as before and after dividend. That's how unit trust/mutual funds work.

The fixed price fund is the exception where dividend is very important as this dividend = return of the fund

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post Mar 27 2017, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Mar 27 2017, 02:59 PM)
I don't care about the dividend, as I do understand about that. It makes no difference for variable unit trust. I always buy variable UT when the stock market drops, and sell when it looks like it's peaking.
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Then you should consider kenanga growth fund instead of ASN. Only 2% service charge vs 5.5% service charge of ASN.
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QUOTE(kovin @ Mar 27 2017, 03:11 PM)
icon_question.gif now only I know how the thing works, no wonder everyone is selling off ASG by now/ before the dividend.

Once again cheated by the FM @ Maybank, I'm such a big waterfish. lost RM5k & lesson learnt in a hard way.
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Didn't you just read what I post? Value of the fund before and after dividend doesn't make a difference. People sell because ASN, ASG is making money now.
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QUOTE(gReeN sOda @ Mar 27 2017, 03:37 PM)
haha.. from 7% last year dropped to 4%..
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Mar 27 2017, 03:45 PM)
okay. needs to give some credit to PNB..

still managed to hold to 6%..

the worse is ASG  bangwall.gif
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Dividend of ASG/ASN3 not important. Value of the fund before and after dividend is the same.
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post Mar 27 2017, 10:10 PM

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Total ASM dividend = RM1b shocking.gif
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post Mar 27 2017, 10:51 PM

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Now with online portal, just click click to fish brows.gif No need to rebut with those who want to withdraw. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ Mar 27 2017, 11:00 PM)
Asn3 good? Ambank doing promotion. Rm20k ans3 +rm20k fd 3mths 8.88 deduct 5%sales commission
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Avoid at all cost.
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post Mar 28 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 28 2017, 12:42 PM)
may i know why next monday is golden time to buy in?
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ASM open for transaction again. Those who want to spend the dividend will withdraw and spend. When they withdraw, the units are free for anyone to grab.
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post Mar 28 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 28 2017, 12:52 PM)
Actually i dont understand, asm is fix price, but ppl sell it when they see a raise. got earn meh?
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ASM returns was just announced at 6%. Which means by 3/4 additional units will be added to ASM. So since there's now more unit in the person's book, some people will take out those extra units for spending.

Some take it out to celebrate, some take it out to go holiday etc. Some just leave it in place. Those who take out may/may not withdraw all. Even if they withdraw 1% out of the 6% given for spending, that 1% is up for grab.
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post Mar 28 2017, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 28 2017, 01:09 PM)
sorry im newbie to start with. how does 6% related to 3 or 4 additional units added to a person's book?
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Eg. You hold 10000 units since 1/4 last year. By 3/4 next week, you should receive 600 units making your total 10600 units =RM10600. Now you can leave it there or you can take out the 600 units. So eg you would like to buy yourself a nice dinner because you are RM600 richer, so you take out RM200 for all you eat buffet. Now when you withdraw RM200 for your buffet, 200 units will be available for anyone to buy.

So eg. I am the type who don't sell, but gobble up as much unit as possible (like most people here). I am ready to buy that 200 unit making my total 10800 unit.

Now multiply your scenario (of withdrawing the units) by 100 people, 100 x200 = 20000 units up fro grab.If I have the money, I can grab the 20000 units making my new total at 30600 units = which means I will get more money next year. Now I am not the only one who will do this. Many people are just waiting because this is usually once a year event where you can buy at ease until you are broke.

Now multiply that with 1000 people and you get 200000 units up for grab rclxms.gif It now often you will have 200000 units up for grab just like that.

Hope you understand.

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 28 2017, 01:34 PM)
wao totally understand now.. so it means that actually the unit available to buy each year in each fund is increasing.
so this year specifically, there is extra 6% unit open to public to buy.
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Yes and no. Why Yes? ASNB usually give the returns in additional units to it's customer. Hence getting bigger and bigger. Securities commission doesn't like that. So if one day securities commision said no more giving unit. ASNB have to give cheque/bank in to the unit holders.

No. Because not everybody withdraw the 6% out completely. Some don't withdraw at all. Some just take out say 0.1%. So if no one withdraw on 3/4 (unlikely), you cannot buy anything.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 28 2017, 01:44 PM)
1/6 billion units for sale, wow.
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Could be more,could be less devil.gif
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 28 2017, 06:46 PM)
Guys,... where can buy in sen ??
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Myasnb. Buy via online.
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post Mar 29 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(bitcomet79 @ Mar 29 2017, 02:41 PM)
hi sifu, wana ask something....

since the dividend already calculate for Y2016, therefore if we want to buy more unit, we should wait until around Jan or Feb 2018 right?

coz the dividend is only give annually right?
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No dividend is calculated monthly. Based on the lowest amount of the month. So if you buy in Jan and Feb, you are only getting 1-2 month worth of dividend. That's also if you can snap them up on the first of the month.
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QUOTE(bitcomet79 @ Mar 29 2017, 02:56 PM)
ok....so i have only minimum amount to invest....let's say 1K per month...from now until March 2018....how's it calculated roughly?

pls advice  notworthy.gif
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Eg You have RM10k as of 1/3.
1. You topup RM1k on 1/3. No withdrawal. Dividend calculated for month of march = RM11k
2. You topup RM1k on 2/3. No withdrawal. Dividend calculated for month of march = RM10k
3. You topup RM1k on 15/3. Withdraw RM2k on 16/3. Dividend calculated for month of march = RM8k

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 28 2017, 01:34 PM)
Bro Ramjade - you are helpful,....

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When you are ready to go Down Under,... let me know,... hoped I can be of help to you later,....  thumbsup.gif Don't invest all into the SGX,... save some for the ASX ! Diversify,...
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Will do. Must have miss it. Thanks. blush.gif

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