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Home Theatre HD Media Player vs Blu-ray Player, Which one is better?

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hushymushy
post Jan 25 2017, 01:27 AM

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Honestly...media playing part is one thing
It also depends on your display

If you are using led tv...the amount of brand to settings defer...and also the reproduction is impacted by the ambient light...and if you wear spectacles...some lenses have slight yellow tint...some has light blue tint

Then when it comes to projector...its another animal all together

In summary....its about calibration to ISF and THX standards

Again...its about personal tolerance level

If i am watching on my 150", the projector, projector screen, source, cabling and right down to room ceiling reflection and ambient lighting affects the visual output

But for my normal 60" tv which i just stream online series and other compressed media....i not as fussy

If you are not fussy and to your eyes are ok...then the next question wat file format you play most....

Why oppo? The video card is reference grade as tested by many people
The DAC and sound output is accurate

Again...if you are not going to the home cinema route....and just wanna enjoy the weekend with your loved ones....its the movie that counts...
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post Jan 25 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 24 2017, 11:14 PM)
oppo udp203 = RM3099
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post Jan 25 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Jan 25 2017, 01:27 AM)
Honestly...media playing part is one thing
It also depends on your display

If you are using led tv...the amount of brand to settings defer...and also the reproduction is impacted by the ambient light...and if you wear spectacles...some lenses have slight yellow tint...some has light blue tint

Then when it comes to projector...its another animal all together

In summary....its about calibration to ISF and THX standards

Again...its about personal tolerance level

If i am watching on my 150", the projector, projector screen, source, cabling and right down to room ceiling reflection and ambient lighting affects the visual output

But for my normal 60" tv which i just stream online series and other compressed media....i not as fussy

If you are not fussy and to your eyes are ok...then the next question wat file format you play most....

Why oppo? The video card is reference grade as tested by many people
The DAC and sound output is accurate

Again...if you are not going to the home cinema route....and just wanna enjoy the weekend with your loved ones....its the movie that counts...
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Well... Eyesight going... Hearing going... Color & pitch perfect also no point...

Just go big & go loud... laugh.gif


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post Jan 25 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 24 2017, 09:09 PM)
I have 2x Android 4k players and they give perfect results on both large files of 1080p as well as 2160p.

Anyway, my largest file size for 4k is only 68.7GB, less than 70GB... Maybe there are 100GB version that might not be smooth?

Btw, I am running CAT6 and all are confirmed in gigabits mode. For quick check, you can confirm from switches. But if your friend has the good meters, do use them.

One more thing, I found some of the 4k contents are lagging if I play via my desktop i7 6700 (built in graphic). But everything are always perfectly smooth on the Android... Any idea? I need to use install some driver on my desktop? i7 + 64GB RAM must be more powerful than cheapo Android box right?

And of course, some might be asking how about 4k3D or 8k files playback on the Android? I searched the Internet and failed to locate samples to try. I also want to try the 4k recording from Canon 1Dx mark 2 or 5D4, does anyone has them to share?
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what app u r using from it bro?
i cant find a solution for the andriod box
and which box u r using ?
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post Jan 25 2017, 06:48 PM

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Try Q10 pro
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post Jan 25 2017, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Jan 25 2017, 01:27 AM)
But for my normal 60" tv which i just stream online series and other compressed media....i not as fussy
Correct... IMO, no need to be too fussy on the TV... as long as 4k TV color is not bad already... size from 55" to 65" with entry level 4k is good.. thumbup.gif

For those perfectionist, of course different story... sweat.gif

QUOTE(nick__123 @ Jan 25 2017, 10:53 AM)
what app u r using from it bro?
i cant find a solution for the andriod box
and which box u r using ?
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Q10 Pro. The default playing app can play all my files from my NAS. And that including 4k media up to 68GB per file (that's the biggest I have).

The only thing I am missing is 4k samples from Canon dSLR (1Dx2 and 5D4). Can anyone share some samples? Need both 30fps and 60fps (1Dx2) to confirm the Q10 Pro performance.
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QUOTE(nick__123 @ Jan 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
i've tested many Android 4K box including AC Ryan 4K Veolo.... they cant really perform on very large files, large 1080p files always frame skip.... 4k files no eye see...

just got myself a OPPO UDP-203 JBed BD player.... solved all the problem.... dont have problem playing 4K file up to 65GB... i'm steaming for my NAS btw..... 12 bays currently running on CAT5e only.....

dont waste time on those android one
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which is why i'm thinking to get a DUNE DUO 4K...but i heard that they will stop bringing in due to low demand and currency rate.
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QUOTE(nick__123 @ Jan 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
i've tested many Android 4K box including AC Ryan 4K Veolo.... they cant really perform on very large files, large 1080p files always frame skip.... 4k files no eye see...

just got myself a OPPO UDP-203 JBed BD player.... solved all the problem.... dont have problem playing 4K file up to 65GB... i'm steaming for my NAS btw..... 12 bays currently running on CAT5e only.....

dont waste time on those android one
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what file format were you playing? is it ISO or a BDMV?

mine starts to lag when it comes to ISO format due to insufficient of built in ram from the media player (256mb only). it gets worst when i play it from my NAS therefore i have to transfer the movie into the media player's hdd and the lagging is greatly reduced.
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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Jan 25 2017, 01:27 AM)
Honestly...media playing part is one thing
It also depends on your display

If you are using led tv...the amount of brand to settings defer...and also the reproduction is impacted by the ambient light...and if you wear spectacles...some lenses have slight yellow tint...some has light blue tint

Then when it comes to projector...its another animal all together

In summary....its about calibration to ISF and THX standards

Again...its about personal tolerance level

If i am watching on my 150", the projector, projector screen, source, cabling and right down to room ceiling reflection and ambient lighting affects the visual output

But for my normal 60" tv which i just stream online series and other compressed media....i not as fussy

If you are not fussy and to your eyes are ok...then the next question wat file format you play most....

Why oppo? The video card is reference grade as tested by many people
The DAC and sound output is accurate

Again...if you are not going to the home cinema route....and just wanna enjoy the weekend with your loved ones....its the movie that counts...
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i'm running a 9.1 setup, moving to a another house with my own AV room that is why i take all these under consideration. soon my 60" LED wouldn able to satisfy my hunger blush.gif ...looking to upgrade to projector too.


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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jan 25 2017, 08:48 PM)
Correct... IMO, no need to be too fussy on the TV... as long as 4k TV color is not bad already... size from 55" to 65" with entry level 4k is good..  thumbup.gif

For those perfectionist, of course different story...  sweat.gif
Q10 Pro. The default playing app can play all my files from my NAS. And that including 4k media up to 68GB per file (that's the biggest I have).

The only thing I am missing is 4k samples from Canon dSLR (1Dx2 and 5D4). Can anyone share some samples? Need both 30fps and 60fps (1Dx2) to confirm the Q10 Pro performance.
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i'm not a perfectionist but we at least try to choose the best out of all and get the best and best value product we could, right?
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post Jan 31 2017, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jan 31 2017, 04:56 PM)
i'm running a 9.1 setup, moving to a another house with my own AV room that is why i take all these under consideration. soon my 60" LED wouldn able to satisfy my hunger  blush.gif  ...looking to upgrade to projector too.
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once you go projector...time to go for Oppo player
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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Jan 31 2017, 05:49 PM)
once you go projector...time to go for Oppo player
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seriously? but why? please explain in details, many people kept saying this is good that is great but never really answer the real question.
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post Jan 31 2017, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jan 31 2017, 09:16 PM)
seriously? but why? please explain in details, many people kept saying this is good that is great but never really answer the real question.
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Oppo media player is versatile, it has capability of android media player while still keep high end features.

It has built in Ultra Bluray ROM, support HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, 4K, HDR, BT.2020, high quality DAC, and most importantly, play any types of files.

For those have eagle eyes vision, seeking for color richness, you should opt for 4K OLED TVs or 4K JVC projectors, the ULTRAHD 4K movie allows you to see more colors (wide color gamut - BT.2020 color space), better details (HDR)

Although some of the media players can play 4K movies, currently those 4K movies were captured by video capture devices by breaking HDCP 2.2 encryption, then re-encode in H.265, these 4K movies are not exactly 1:1 copy from original ULTRAHD bluray, it is often lack of BT.2020 support, HDR metadata, even worse is without DTS-X, Atmos or multi-channels output. due to AACS2.0 being used by ULTRAHD bluray, it is currently impossible to rip ULTRAHD movies, hence, the best way to enjoy 4K movie is using OPPO 203 + 4K OLED TV/4K projectors




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post Feb 1 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jan 31 2017, 09:16 PM)
seriously? but why? please explain in details, many people kept saying this is good that is great but never really answer the real question.
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i have owned two projectors and a few tvs

I am currently using the JVC X5000 projector

in terms of media player...i have owned and used over the years:

1. Oppo 105D (current)
2. Hi-Media Q8 (current)
3. Dune HD Max
4. Dune 3D Base
5. Dune Prime 3.0
6. Dvico

In terms of built, picture quality and sound quality...Oppo is the bang for buck player
good DAC chips, versatile player and most importantly, picture calibration in many ways
the output range fro the Oppo matches the standards of THX and ISF right out of the box

as for the rest of the lower end or entry level media player, you won't see much of a difference on a 40inch tv to 46inch tv

same goes for sound quality.....basic tv speakers and sound bars won't cut it to tell a difference between an Oppo vs Himedia

when you go to projectors...the first issue is the screen gain, ambient lighting and contrast.
to make things worse....projector screens are worth playing from 100" to 150".....because anything below that, you might as well opt for 70"/80" tv

with various screen material, ambient lighting, reflective ceiling and depending on your projector quality, it really dictates what kind of picture quality you get...

below picture is my previous setup on 106" Grandview with Sony 55ES projector uncalibrated

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below is the same screen and projector calibrated

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below is my current setup...Elite Sable 150" with JVC X5000...pending calibration
the rich blacks and the sharpness is a whole new level.....I tried plug in my hi-media playing the same video...the noise level and colour reproduction is of no match at all

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This post has been edited by hushymushy: Feb 1 2017, 12:31 AM
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post Feb 1 2017, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jan 31 2017, 04:56 PM)
i'm running a 9.1 setup, moving to a another house with my own AV room that is why i take all these under consideration. soon my 60" LED wouldn able to satisfy my hunger  blush.gif  ...looking to upgrade to projector too.
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Yup. Projection is the way to go when you can control ambient lighting...no TV can match the immersive 120-150". While I enjoy the convenience of my Himedia, using the oppo is really a much more satisfying treat.

This post has been edited by dwRK: Feb 1 2017, 01:37 AM
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post Feb 1 2017, 12:55 PM

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When come to media player, there are tvbox, media player and bluray player.

The most popular bluray players is oppo, which is using MTK solution. It can play most of the file format, but may incompatible with some movie files (MKV, depend on the encoding). This is meant for playback discs.

The very popular true media players are Dune 4k and Popcorn A500 Pro (this was developed in Penang). They are provided by Sigma solution. They can play most of the file format including MKV and encoding. It can even play the becoming popular H265 encoding.

Himedia, xiaomi blah blah blah are android tvbox. They are ARM solution running android, their purpose is to use IPTV to stream movies/tv to the box and normally use H264 encoding.

Technically among these, firmware based like MTK and Sigma offer the best PQ, But some do like android based TV box quality.
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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jan 31 2017, 04:51 PM)
what file format were you playing? is it ISO or a BDMV?

mine starts to lag when it comes to ISO format due to insufficient of built in ram from the media player (256mb only). it gets worst when i play it from my NAS therefore i have to transfer the movie into the media player's hdd and the lagging is greatly reduced.
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MKV HEVC
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post Feb 1 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(nick__123 @ Feb 1 2017, 01:07 PM)
MKV HEVC
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You have 2 options for HEVC, VLC on your PC or Dune 4k or Popcore a500.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ Feb 1 2017, 12:55 PM)
When come to media player, there are tvbox, media player and bluray player.

The most popular bluray players is oppo, which is using MTK solution. It can play most of the file format, but may incompatible with some movie files (MKV, depend on the encoding). This is meant for playback discs.

The very popular true media players are Dune 4k and Popcorn A500 Pro (this was developed in Penang). They are provided by Sigma solution. They can play most of the file format including MKV and encoding. It can even play the becoming popular H265 encoding.

Himedia, xiaomi blah blah blah are android tvbox. They are ARM solution running android, their purpose is to use IPTV to stream movies/tv to the box and normally use H264 encoding.

Technically among these, firmware based like MTK and Sigma offer the best PQ,  But some do like android based TV box quality.
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Himedia hi end model can play H.265 for many years already, the latest one Q5/Q10 pro even support HDR, BT.2020, 4K60, HDMI 2.0. Popcorn & Dune are considered technologically behind himedia.

Oppo is still the #1 in media player and bluray player, the OP8591 single on chip (SOC) is co-developed with MediaTek, it is not pure mediatek chipset


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