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 T8 Fluorescent LED Tube Light replacement, Retrofitting LED tube to existing casing

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post Jan 1 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Dec 30 2017, 11:15 AM)
That's the shop in Kuchai Lama that I was referring to in one of my earlier post. Comparing your China 18w T8 tube, this Philips 20w will be brighter but don't expect a lot, roughly 20 -30% but still better and close to normal fluorescent tube.

I doubt with your current wiring setup, the Philips LED tube will light up as both Live & Neutral need on 1 side of the holder but your current wiring is L&N on each side separately. Alternatively, you could go for a local brand of T8 LED with 22w of 2000 lumens. Price is much less than Philips and quality close to it.

To modify, one side of the holder need to have both wires coming out and connect to 'L' and "N' from your electrical source and the other holder side leave it as dummy (wire not connected) .

If your holder only have 1 wire coming out and another wire no where to be seen, you may need to buy 1 holder with both wiring coming out from lighting / electrical shop which is usually very cheap.
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is T5 better or T8?

also you mention Philip T5 has different connection, majority T5 in the market has wires on 1 side or both side? what about their T8?

do T-5 have short & long length like T8 do?

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post Jan 2 2018, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Jan 2 2018, 12:16 PM)
T5 is slim version of T8 for Led. T5 comes with bracket 'LN' is at 1 side only as the main pupose of using T5 is to join the light side by side for kitchen cabinet /plaster ceiling cove lighting. Most if not all T5 led comes together with integrated bracket. The tube cannot be detached once its not functioning. Please check the T5 led at shop to understand better and the variety of lenghts available.Yes, T5 led is available in various lenghts.
Btw, this discussion is on T8.
Thanks for sharing. Havent seen this brand of T8 led tube before.
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oh no wonder so T5 all came with the LED & casing just like downlight? the whole tube just screw onto the surface you are mounting not into any casing like T8? when you say integrated means i can connect 2 T5 without additional wires just plug in? might be good for cabinets.

i was looking into T8 actually, those that when replace just pull out the tubes. are there T8 casing that supports both Fluorescent & LED without mods? is there any quality brands for T8 LED casing? T8 LED don't need Driver like Downlight do right? or Driver is in the casing?
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post Jan 4 2018, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(frostier @ Jan 4 2018, 09:08 AM)
No problem. Glad to share.
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for the T8 casing, do you utilize all 3 wires including Earth? since LED normally only have Live & neutral. do you connect the earth to some screws on the metal casing?
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post Jan 4 2018, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(frostier @ Jan 4 2018, 10:45 AM)
Yes. Earthing to the casing as standard practise.
This is to obtain class 1
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can i use a wire connector and insert it between the bracket & screw (into plug), or will i risk damaging the connector if i screwed the screw in too tight to the ceiling?
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post Jan 4 2018, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(frostier @ Jan 4 2018, 11:02 AM)
Sorry. I think I lost you here.
The purpose to connect the Earth wire to the chassis is to act as protection if there’s leakage from AC (Live/Neutral) which will trip the circuit breaker
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the support bracket is normally metal, once you install the bracket then you can screw the light casing onto the bracket. so if i use those wire connector (donut) and slip it between the screw & casing it will work right? because that is the only place which have screw to secure the ground.
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post Jan 4 2018, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(frostier @ Jan 4 2018, 12:54 PM)
Yeah. As long as the wire is connected to the chassis
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hi, might be out of topic, but to mount a T8 on a plaster ceiling, is it too heavy to mount directly on the plaster, or require some sort of support bracket.

i know how to install proper support bracket from ceiling to near the plaster using 2 sets of L shape bracket with plugs, however i don't know how to do the bottom part. most i see just use wooden blocks, so the light bracket will screw into the wooden block? wouldn't the wood block crack & chip resulting loss of grip?

because if you try to secure the lights bracket to the L shape frame, would require a bolt & nut, to tighten the nut would require access above the plaster ceiling which means impossible to reach.

sorry because the lack of info on this on google.

 

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