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 T8 Fluorescent LED Tube Light replacement, Retrofitting LED tube to existing casing

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post Mar 23 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 23 2018, 10:10 AM)
OK ....over price ...better stick to Philips ...

thanks ...
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100lm/w - it’s like 2016 specs

Anyhow it’s around that price too
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post Jul 10 2018, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 01:09 AM)
Hi. Need help of you guys.

Where can I find Philips Ecofit T8 Warm White type as it is not available in some of the shops. I'm from Penang.

Planning to buy one to fix in my kitchen.

Thanks.
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Penang distributor for Philips Signify - Yen Ho
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post Jul 10 2018, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jul 10 2018, 01:26 AM)
Hi. Do you know any other shop in Bayan Lepas area?

BM is too far away.

Thanks.
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Call Yen Ho and ask their dealer in Bayan Lepas area smile.gif

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post Jul 10 2018, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 10 2018, 06:58 PM)
If you are in serious retrofit campaign with extra budget, and want do it right; I would advise against installing Philips Ecofit. You will might end up with disappointingly dim room compared to previous fluorescent tube.
Go for Philips MASTER instead. Its lot more efficient and produce better light quality.
For comparison on (nominal) rated output:

Philips Super80 (traditional, green cap premium fluorescent tube)
36w, 3200lm, 82 CRI

Philips Ecofit
16w, 1600lm, 73 CRI

Philips MAS LED HO(High output variant)
14w, 2100lm, 83 CRI
Side by side comparison T8 840. MAS LED HO (left) Philips Super80, HF Ballast (Right). Dont have Ecofit tube at this moment but it perform worse than both on last comparison I made.

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MAS LED rated only 2100lm, but the apparent brightness is still higher than 3200lm traditional fluorescent, due to directional beam nature of LED light, which increase its delivered (effective) lumens.
I can't say for other brand, but I believe they wold perform same or worse than Ecofit for the same nominal wattage.

The catch is it is much more expensive, cheapest I get was RM42/unit (vs RM10/unit for Ecofit), and since this tube is not targeted for consumer, its rarely sold in retail shops nor in non-bulk units.
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You are right. Go for Master range
Typical B50L70 is 30k hours for Master. Unless they change that since I left
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post Jul 11 2018, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 10 2018, 10:18 PM)
For current generation of HO(high output) variant, yes.
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/...9002_EU/product
Don't think so. You only save 6w in this case. Unless you could really benefit from 83 CRI upgrade, its more economical to just stick with your existing tube.
Latest batch I install now is rated for 50k hours  biggrin.gif .
Of course it is. "EMP starter" is just extra fabulous name for dummy starter. The inside is just simple wire loop.
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I stand corrected. You are right. Master to begin with was 40k and 50k. Only Essential TLED was rated at 30k.
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post Nov 12 2018, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Nov 11 2018, 05:31 PM)
is the ecofit high output (HO) available in any supermarket?
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I doubt so. Why not you contact. Philips distributor Sin Lian wah?
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post Nov 12 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Nov 12 2018, 10:22 PM)
i want to test out one tube first, i doubt distributor will sell 1 tube right?
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ask for the dealer that carry it
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post Dec 11 2018, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn08 @ Dec 10 2018, 04:21 PM)
I just called JLL Electrical. They are selling Philips Ecofit 20 W for RM14. Gonna get a few pieces to fix to my rooms.
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Send my regards to Dato Joe
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post Dec 11 2018, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Dec 11 2018, 12:34 PM)
CIMA lighting selling at rm13.50
I think they are dealer for Philips.
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Yes, they are.
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post May 21 2019, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(NoobHacker @ May 21 2019, 01:18 PM)
Just went Puchong TK light. What they recommend is:

1. if you don't need fancy well known brands, use two side wiring
2. if only use well known brands like philips, use one side wiring.

Bought one 20W philips for testing, cant see the difference with naked eyes. I didnt bypass the ballast so sometimes the led will flick quickly then turns on.
Other than philips, every shop sells different brand for two side wiring tubes  hmm.gif Can try FSL since ikea sells them, should be relatively reliable.
Japanese quality are no longer reliable like last time, since their production line is everywhere now, instead of japan only
china brands are getting better since they really care about their brand name now, and they mostly manufactured in their own country & factory.
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Please consider Ledvance as well
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post May 24 2019, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ May 24 2019, 08:19 AM)
LedAvance is by Osram. The price is more expensive than Philips. On FSL,some said they are oem for Toshiba. The price sold by major department store is pricey. I gotten about rm10 each for 4ft in a local ligthing shop.FSL is 18w, 1800 lumens vs Philips (High Output) 20w, 2100 lumens.
My 1st T8 led is FSL and since upgraded to Philips now. FSL is reliable, obviously not bright vs Philips HO.

For slimline T8 led bracket, using Philips wiring setting, one can get from Houses of Ligthing in Puchong.Better quality than the generic rm5 one (they also selling generic one) but price is slightly above rm10 each. To me it's worth as bracket easily last more than 10 years.
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LEDvance no longer part of Osram.
They owned by MLS from a China
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post May 31 2019, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 31 2019, 02:42 PM)
You can do the calculation.

32W-20W=12W save.

If 1 day 8hr ON - 12Wx8hr=96whr save perday.

1 Month saving 96whr x 365 /12=2.9kwh of saving permonth.

TNB rate 0.218sen/kw x 2.9kwh=0.63sen saving each month.

Do you see your bill drop 0.63sen ?
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do u have power meter?
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post Oct 31 2019, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Oct 30 2019, 08:34 PM)
Hello everyone, I'm not really keen to create new topic for asking this only.

Which/what brand t8 led is comparable to conventional fluorescent t8 in term of brightness?

I did try one of t8 led tubes from Mr DIY rated around 1700 lumens(not sure exact value, plus minus 100) and really obvious how dimmer it is compared to conventional one.
Conventional t8 36W gives around 2600 lumens(at least Philip's).
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you can't compare this apple to apple
Conventional fluo T8 emit 360, which your 2600 lumen will need to cater for the optical/reflector loss.

For LED T8, you can ask for 2100lumen or higher.
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post Nov 13 2019, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Nov 11 2019, 04:41 PM)
Being potentially cheapskate here.
Worth to get one of these? How would it fare against the Philip's?

https://shopee.com.my/product/142282385/223...8912?smtt=0.0.9

https://shopee.com.my/product/53595731/1042343553?smtt=0.0.9
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It's entirely up to you. Never try those before.

1. You can't be sure of the safety of the product. Philips brand have better brand image, in the event there's product issue, they shall react on it.
2. None of the product states their PF, so if the product u purchase have very low PF, you will end up consume more energy.
3. i've installed LED from Philips for the last 6 years

 

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