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post Jan 12 2017, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Jan 12 2017, 12:42 PM)
Thank you for TS advice. I think i will venture for business also.

And the first point, no need to worry about work after working hour. LOL.
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you want to talk about work during happy hours it's your own problem.
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Jan 12 2017, 12:48 PM)
I need to prepare stuff for tomorrow work though.
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yea and i need to fill up my water bottle & bread box for breakfast.

next thing you will say I'm thinking about work on my way to work before work hour starts.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(andrewcha @ Jan 12 2017, 12:58 PM)
With these kinda reply from you seriously I feel sad for you for so much negativity in your mind. Ask people dont do business sembang kencang when you havent try before.
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no because when we say no need think about work we don't mean thinking about getting up early next day for work or prepare some documents put inside your james bond bag, making your sandwich & worry being late to work.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(JerryTeh @ Jan 12 2017, 01:07 PM)
Totally agree!!

I am doing biz for more than 5 years...

My brain didnt stop thinking since then...

But if you give me chance to choose again, i will definitely do biz.

I will teach my kids do biz as well.

Beside the monetary gain, the IQ EQ attitude communication skills wisdom philosophical gain are priceless.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(yugimudo @ Jan 12 2017, 01:18 PM)
But that is one of my reason to do business, to have something for my kids to inherit.

The founder cry blood tear. How many corpse they have to climb to build a stable business. One of the perk is that ur kids can inherit ur wealth and have a good life.

Employee, they cant give shit to they child. They can pay for college fees or buy pay for their first car, but that is it.

Like I said, Im not saying which one is better. Finding out whether business is for you is a part of knowing yourself.
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remember back in those days you have to shed blood, but it's a free for all market with lots of untapped business waiting to be explored. it's like Gold Rush or Black Gold Rush.

nowadays, human has yet evolved to a newer level, as such, markets getting smaller as big players continue to grow & outpower smaller players.

for example, do you know any land in Malaysia that doesn't belong to anyone? all lands belong to someone, those that don't, belongs to the state's ruler.

unless for example human can start to listen to wider range of sound frequencies, the potential of music is very limited as you only have so much tune to work on.

Malaysia market is already all dried up. For your grandfather era, maybe many people have a chance at making it big, but now, you not have to face your piers, but also the established big players whom's too big to push.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jan 12 2017, 01:27 PM)
a wiseman once told me...
building an empire is easy but maintaining the empire is impossible....
but then again... i dont think it applies to all.... it depends very much on individual and how is the current situation for that industry.
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a wiseman also told me, it's easy to say easy when you already done it because no matter how difficult it was it no longer matters so everything is easy.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jan 12 2017, 01:35 PM)
friend... to be a better person in life... try to see things in a more positive way.... everything negative will make your life very miserable... this is my advise for you... not a wiseman... ok??? peace
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while it's good to be +ve it's suicidal to ignore the facts.

you know what they always say:"Walk away from the bright lights."

if you have a chance to ask the wise man again, ask him, if you were to start from scratch now, would it be easy?
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jan 12 2017, 01:41 PM)
hei.. any advise given to you just take it with a pinch of salt... everyone is different in their thinking... the wiseman that told me that was a lawyer... you dont expect a professional to teach you how to do business right???
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well he's telling you about how easy it is to build an empire and how difficult it is to maintain.

if his lawyer film is his empire then his words maybe worth something.

but then again, easier said than done. sure he told you it's easy to build an empire, but how true is that?

if he said it's difficult to build an empire, but even hard to maintain one, then we all would have agreed on his words because it's the fact.

of course unless you say someone built an empire based on inheritance then you can argue it's super easy to build an empire.
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post Jan 12 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Wassupman @ Jan 12 2017, 01:48 PM)
if you have dreams and plans i believe it will not hard to build an empire. most important is not to give up. many people will give you the negative thoughts and people always do but always remember everyone thinking is different and how important is their opinion to you?

most important is believe in yourself. if you have no  trust in yourself then its better not to talk about empire or maintaining anything.
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easy say happy go lucky good for you wish you all the best with your dreams & goals.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Germanwine @ Jan 12 2017, 02:17 PM)
Yahhhhh, let me give ts 1 valued  quote:
Smart/intelligence man solve every  problem, but wise man avoid problem. Dont waste ur time on solving problems, everyday we face troubles, use ur time to improve  urself...
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when problem come knocking on your office door, your employees can run away, you as boss, can avoid? can also, just run away.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jan 12 2017, 02:28 PM)
most have this inferior mentality like TS....

dont need to have RM10k saving..to open ur small company....remember hard work, good networking, dont give up..is the key to success..

most think having jobs, yes can help...in short term, yes..learn the trade, experience, and venture ur own...long term..go to a biz u feel comfortable..
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yes previously i already shared how you can open a Nasi Lemak & burger store for as low as rm3k startup and still earn a good living compared to a normal 9-5 job.

but Nasi Lemak stall ain't the type of business /k is looking to venture into based on the feedbacks. the business most of them are looking into cost way more than rm10k.

and most of them probably don't have rm10k savings.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Jan 12 2017, 02:35 PM)
exactly but ts perspective of what running a business is like trying to run a million dollar corp.  bangwall.gif
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million dollar corp? million dollar at most allow you to run a Hipster Cafe for 6 months only.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sarsaparila @ Jan 12 2017, 02:49 PM)
TS, you can start small doing business. If you are really want to give a try and lower your risk, you can do partnership<<----- but Im not encourage everyone to do this. Once you failed, the modal to fork out by half or based on agreement between your partners.

Once you failed, you got a new whole level of experience. Use that experience to make you a better person and start a new business plan. Nobody said business fail = end of life. Somehow I felt failure will make myself want to venture even more. Learning curve is higher than you merely working in the company. You will know how to social, EQ, IQ, critical thinking, responsibility, and also your future.

Dont worry TS, life is meant to be enjoy. Business is a freedom of what you want. Working is a rat race unless you felt you can go for corporate ladder. As /k quote. Jilat, Jangan X Jilat.

Choose what your life wannabe, not others decide what your life are.
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i'm not here to seek advice.

but my advice to you is:"Whatever didn't kill you, will one day."

sekian.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Jan 12 2017, 02:35 PM)
exactly but ts perspective of what running a business is like trying to run a million dollar corp.  bangwall.gif
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i had a writeup on small business last time, but it's quite old i ain't digging it up. you can use the search function yourself and read & think about it.

Taxi might be outdated but the concept is more or less same as Uber & Grab.

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post Jan 12 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Jan 12 2017, 02:52 PM)
so long... can you please simplify it??
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if you can't even read a small paragraph, then i suggest you don't even think about business. so in that case nothing to worry about just scroll other threads.
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Germanwine @ Jan 12 2017, 02:53 PM)
If u know  some  decision  u do can cause problems, then avoid. If some random  problem  appear u have to solve.
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U think ur Messi can tackle tru 10 defenders to score a goal?
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Jan 12 2017, 03:37 PM)
I bet no football team will arrange 10 DEFENDER just to block 1 Messi..
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Figure of speech, same as no businessman can dodge all problems & make no mistakes.
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(RO Player @ Jan 12 2017, 03:28 PM)
ur thinking and mentality is a worker mindset..cant grow or see in future..

money can loan fr banks or family/relative, etc

start small...and not necessarity must be nasi lemak or ur burger stall..mentality..

just share some ideas...and some ppl in msia aldy doing it successfully..


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tell you a story.

if you are successful, you tell people you achieved success by eating shit, people will start eating shit. of course, to have people follow you to eat shit you have to be really successful to be convincing.
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(estcin @ Jan 12 2017, 04:15 PM)
High risk, high return. Low risk, low return
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you want me to share a few High Risk Low Return investments?
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(estcin @ Jan 12 2017, 05:14 PM)
High Risk Low Return?  shocking.gif MLM/YSLM/forex scam ---> That way
U mean Low Risk High Return? It doesn't (hardly) exist. Hahaha. No free lunch in this world. It's just depend on individual, diff ppl got diff risk level. And depends on age, young ppl can take more risk to start biz. Old ppl with family harder to take high risk.
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High Risk Low Return.

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