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klthor
post Jan 12 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(luvjiajia @ Jan 11 2017, 10:31 PM)
hi all sifu here.. i need some advise from you all pls. A year ago i decided to help my relative to take up a car loan under my name due to his name already blacklisted in banks. The reason i agreed to take up the loan under my name because i hope that he can get a car for his new job so that he can go to work more convenient. Another reason is he said that his name is blacklisted in bank therefore bank will not accept loan to him forever.

Now the problem has come... recently he got fired from his job and couldn't afford the car loan anymore. The loan has been overdue for two months, he kept on giving excuses and delay the loan payment and I am really fed up on getting those call from bank and SMS. Today i received the call from bank saying that they will issue a Surat Tarik within 7 days.

I really wish to terminate the loan and done helping for my relative which should be his responsibility for his own adulthood but now has causing a serious damage to my CCRIS.

Now what can i do...?
1) take back the car and sell it to second hand car dealer. But will i have to pay a big sum of money to the dealer due to the loan still not finish pay?

2) Transfer ownership of the car loan to my relative and ask him to do a refinance from bank

3) if a person is blacklisted by bank is it forever?
any other helpful advise will be very much appreciate... thanks...
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get back the car 1st, i doubt you can even get the car from your relative. good luck TS. when you take loan for some1, always consider this amount is given for free to him/her. i have consider to loan for my little sis axia and i can live with it paying her car instalment when she faces financial difficulties. but lucky my little sis make me proud, no help needed from me at all.

if you so lucky that you manage to get back the car, its either you keep it yourself or you sell to 2nd car dealer or you try to sell it yourself a.k.a look for some 1 who willing to use 110k to buy off your car (sambung bayar). but honestly, 110k for a 1 year old hrv isnt really attractive at all. if its like 90k ish, you may get lots of buyerss. anyway, go get back the car. try to sort it out with ur relative. last resort, ask the bank to tarik smile.gif then maybe still can discuss with bank by paying penalty + installment to get back the car better than letting bank auction your car at lower price.

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(luvjiajia @ Jan 12 2017, 10:49 AM)
many thanks for your words.. helps a lot. You're right, the problem is getting back the car from him now.. just like lend money to someone is easy, but when wanna get back the money is hard.. helping someone its like double edge sword sometimes.. but i'm glad that your lil sis is matured and independent..
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yep, try to sort it out with your relative. else you will be losing a relative and 20k + -, your relative might think you wanna take advantage of him since he did pay the deposit and instalment for 1 year i suppose ? turn hostile where there is no other option. best way is to call bank to see if possible to settle it with money after they tarik the car (this will avoid you to have hard time facing your relative ie. taking the car), once they tarik the car. go to bank, pay 3~4 months instalment + penalties get the car. sell it, lose another 10~20k there, or just keep the car and pay for the instalment.
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post Jan 12 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(luvjiajia @ Jan 12 2017, 11:57 AM)
i was thinking that if i take back the car, i will pay him back the rm15k deposit that he paid initially. But do i have to pay back the past 1 year installment that he paid off? Or those are consider as the "rental" during his possession of driving the car for past 12 months?

It is my huge mistake when i decided to help him but he seems to taking advantage of my credit rating and causing a serious mess up with my CCRIS... i will take to him and have a clear cut to any financial related stuff from me.  sad.gif
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it all boils down to your negotiation with him. i think you are kinda fair to him paying him back the deposit. instalment maybe no need as it is clear that the car value is way lesser than what you owe to the bank.

but in another point of view, you see it this way... you are helping him to loan only, now the value of the car is lower than the loan...you shouldnt be paying him anything at all since you might even lose another 10 to 20k to topup the different if you sell off the car.

do your home work now like calling to bank for settlement sum, call 2nd dealer how much they accept. workout the maths, how much you are losing. prepared the figure be4 you approach him. and good luck ts, that is why good people become lesser.... expensive lesson learned and they changed.
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post Jan 12 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(eleven dragon @ Jan 12 2017, 03:10 PM)
yeah i agree with what klthor said.

But I'd choose 2nd option = not to pay him anything deposit back.  TS was already kind enough to let him with credit loan on TS name, this is already a courtesy not to be taken as granted.  But now things messed up, TS most probably has to bear with the losses with the depreciating car value.  Out of her kindness, she didn't get any good in return, but defaulted credit mess that would haunted her credit record + cash value loss, this is truly a painful lesson to bear!

I'd suggest TS to deal with bank instead, to tarik back the car and nego with bank to get back it.  I believe TS must have informed him many times d, if he was willing/able to pay the loan, he would have made it early.  All TS need to approach him, in anyway, is just to show him the ''surat tarik balik'' from bank, that would itself serve as a clear final warning.  What i wanted to say here is, there's no point to nego with him, if he reacts nothing with the warning letter, he is just taking the advantages.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Jan 12 2017, 03:21 PM)
Next time get a call from Bank Bounty Hunter.. Gracefully direct them the location of the car and tarik on spot.

Since under your name... Then go and take back the car by settling the outstanding and then only you can decide whether to sell off or continue installment.
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to me, i place family first. that is why i would suggest to discuss and nego first. show outstanding balance, show market value of the car (as seller point not buyer)... if the relative shows no sign of sorry, then maybe would go for bank tarik and nego tactic. else i really hope ts could sort it out within the family.
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post Jan 13 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jan 13 2017, 04:59 PM)
you are basically screwed both ways, quick check on mudah a 2015 HRV is 90k, second hand dealer maybe take from you 90k(if this will ever happens) - you still owe bank 120k

report the car stolen, retrieve the car and continue the loan urself - u get a new car ... provided u can service the loan and not paying for another car ...

weigh the option, if ur other car is an older car which if u have paid up already then good, sell that... use the new HRV
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mate, i know you are smart, but i would suggest you not to teach people doing 'grey' area things... reporting the car is stolen is silly. the police found the car in possession of her relative how? police take him and charge him? you have to know stealing is a criminal case, its not like you can call off the case just like that.

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post Jan 13 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jan 13 2017, 06:16 PM)
bro (calling you bro with some degree of respect here) dont be silly lah

the fella 2 months never pay(as per TS) and kept on providing excuse ... when the bank comes and tow the car - who will be at loss? the TS lah who else ...

ok then just so if the TS is nice - inform the relative - you are taking possession of the car and if this doesnt happen, then make the police report

sometimes being nice does'nt pay ... whats the point of being nice when people treat you like shit - in this case - the description from the TS does seem to indicate thats the case ...
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maybe should let ts to decide. im a soft approach guy, making police report will be an extreme measure which I would not try to use unless i have no choice. you are making your relative become a criminal, maybe you could say its his fault making ts to bankrupt... i have no solid experience in dealing with bank after car being towed, but reporting car stolen is like framing some1. the most will be threaten if he refuse to return thr car. few k vs framing your relative, i will pick paying few to settle. remember, crimincal record never wash away. is what he did enough for you to frame him to have crimincal record? becaus he did not steal the car, he asked ts to help him to obtain loan and he/she agreed on! so go to court he denied stealing the car? butterfly effect....

 

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