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 Honda Jazz CKD, Vol 2

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danthe0
post Oct 20 2017, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(danthe0 @ Oct 19 2017, 09:42 PM)
RE: Graph pedal input
Version 2 of the graph will have pedal %.
Already started recording but, traffic has been smoother and couldn't force that jerky scenario; keep timing it wrongly since having the OBDII readout... started to subconsciously try to prevent the jerk from happening... graphs will be delayed.
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Aaaand it happened. It jerked. Again.


Here's some data regarding one instance of the juddering felt by hybrid i-DCD owners.


I was just driving along with with battery filled but engine was on and cruising along slowly when suddenly... wham. Jerk.
This time there's video but it's not clearly visible because the dashcam is mounted on the windscreen and coupled with the chassis.

In the chart, the acceleration sensor is magnified 1000x to show when it jerks, and relatively how intense the jerk is.
The accel sensor is taken from a phone inserted in its dock which is NOT coupled to the car. Closest reference would be... like smart tag just throw on the dashboard freely / no support, can slide.
The phone dock thing for reference,
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Charts ahoy.
Spoiler 1. No marking.
Spoiler 2. Same chart but pointing out the details.
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Video to synchronise with chart. (cant see much even with fullscreen)
https://streamable.com/ky580


If you count the bars between the jolt and the sharp deceleration, that's 5 bars or equivalent to 3.5 seconds for it to jolt, then resolve itself.
That's 3.5 seconds of input loss from the user while it's doing god knows what with the gears.

This post has been edited by danthe0: Oct 21 2017, 02:42 PM
danthe0
post Oct 21 2017, 04:54 PM

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Extra stuff while recording... some data about EV -> Engine start.

Look at the black lines. Black lines indicate bumpiness or motion.
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This post has been edited by danthe0: Oct 21 2017, 05:19 PM
perrrhhh
post Oct 22 2017, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(rebooto @ Oct 19 2017, 05:01 PM)
hi all sifu/masta here....i'm a proud owner of Jazz V spec for 1.5 months. Did my 1k service and apparently nothing was change..they just check2 see2 look2...ask  to come back 5 mth later/10k km.

You see its 1.5 month and i'm only clocking 1.3k km only. By looking at it i might only hit 6k km and its adi 6 month old..hahaha...so then i'm planning another trip to Alor Setar and Penang on the Jazz so clock more km.

Since the Jazz engine oil & etc all still from factory. Any advice for long distance trip. Yes, i've been reading quite a bit before posting. Like those no no thingy, no hard accel, no cruise control, no static at a particular speed.

I actually have brought it back to Alor Setar when it was only 200km...i drove below 100km/h most the time and variable speed between 75-95km/h. Any advice would be good smile.gif

As for the car the only complain i got is i think the Goodyear Excellence tyre a bit noisy on certain road/tarmac. other than that its definately better ride that all my previous national car, so much stable when cornering, fc as good as my kelisa if not better and the looks is awesome and handsome.
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Welcome rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Later you change new tyre to Michelin Pilot Sport 3 or Advan Fleva V701

Both very good tyre in term of grips and wet road thumbup.gif and also can upgrade more wider from 185 to 195.
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post Oct 22 2017, 04:09 PM

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post Oct 22 2017, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(danthe0 @ Oct 21 2017, 04:54 PM)
Extra stuff while recording... some data about EV -> Engine start.

Look at the black lines. Black lines indicate bumpiness or motion.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Da complain kat Honda Malaysia?

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Strobe
post Oct 23 2017, 09:36 PM

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Dear sifus
Is S spec worth the price or should I go for E spec?
Is there any significant differences?

Please bear with me as I dont know anything about cars
CanonLee
post Oct 24 2017, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Strobe @ Oct 23 2017, 09:36 PM)
Dear sifus
Is S spec worth the price or should I go for E spec?
Is there any significant differences?

Please bear with me as I dont know anything about cars
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hi Strobe,

Differences of S & E spec (both facelifted version)

1) S-spec got no Day-Running Light (accessories, can install aftermarket but might void warranty on wiring)
2) S-spec air-Cond manually control by knob (some people prefer knob type)
3) S-spec got no steering wheel audio and phone-answering control (E-spec is more handy)
4) S-spec is just standard audio ICE with no reverse camera (E-spec is touch screen with reverse camera)
5) S-spec got no center console armrest (you can always buy aftermarket)
6) very IMPORTANT, S-spec does not equip with VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist), HSA (Hill-Start Assist) and ESS (Emerygency Stop Signal)
7) S-spec equip with 2 front airbags (E-spec got another 2 side airbags)
8) price difference of roughly RM6000

honda models all doing promo and huge discount is given. Do compare with few SA/showrooms. Make sure you have a good deal.
Price of E-spec after discounted is most probably cheaper than S-spec's RRP.

This post has been edited by CanonLee: Oct 24 2017, 02:57 PM
Boom Mortar
post Oct 24 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Strobe @ Oct 23 2017, 09:36 PM)
Dear sifus
Is S spec worth the price or should I go for E spec?
Is there any significant differences?

Please bear with me as I dont know anything about cars
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Take E spec if can

S spec is joke without VSC
Strobe
post Oct 24 2017, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(CanonLee @ Oct 24 2017, 02:54 PM)
hi Strobe,

Differences of S & E spec (both facelifted version)

1) S-spec got no Day-Running Light (accessories, can install aftermarket but might void warranty on wiring)
2) S-spec air-Cond manually control by knob (some people prefer knob type)
3) S-spec got no steering wheel audio and phone-answering control (E-spec is more handy)
4) S-spec is just standard audio ICE with no reverse camera (E-spec is touch screen with reverse camera)
5) S-spec got no center console armrest (you can always buy aftermarket)
6) very IMPORTANT, S-spec does not equip with VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist), HSA (Hill-Start Assist) and ESS (Emerygency Stop Signal)
7) S-spec equip with 2 front airbags (E-spec got another 2 side airbags)
8) price difference of roughly RM6000

honda models all doing promo and huge discount is given. Do compare with few SA/showrooms. Make sure you have a good deal.
Price of E-spec after discounted is most probably cheaper than S-spec's RRP.
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Thanks a million for the detail comaprison notworthy.gif
Will check out the price difference after discount and decide hmm.gif

QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Oct 24 2017, 04:46 PM)
Take E spec if can

S spec is joke without VSC
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Indeed the biggest drawback hmm.gif
Thanks for the advice
nakjadiDE
post Oct 25 2017, 03:09 PM

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is the eco mode just a hype? #seriousquestion haha
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post Oct 25 2017, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(nakjadiDE @ Oct 25 2017, 03:09 PM)
is the eco mode just a hype? #seriousquestion haha
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I got Jazz V spec 2016 before FL, there is no eco mode button. But there is green line indicator that shows you drive within eco mode.

With that only it is really save the fuel.

So I think the eco mode is not just a hype.
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post Oct 25 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(RevolutionWorks @ Oct 25 2017, 03:32 PM)
I got Jazz V spec 2016 before FL, there is no eco mode button. But there is green line indicator that shows you drive within eco mode.

With that only it is really save the fuel.

So I think the eco mode is not just a hype.
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understood bro. However, i am a chill driver, not the kinda guy who accelerates like rockets, always on the green mode.

So, i made an experiment to see how does it different when using the eco mode vs not using it.

Usually when we fill our tank full (Rm78 - 25/10/17 price), we will normally gets 70KM before the fuel indicator meter goes down with one bar. but with eco mode on, i only manage to get 72KM.

hahaha okay, when i type this i thought as i am being super over expectation lol
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post Oct 25 2017, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(nakjadiDE @ Oct 25 2017, 04:56 PM)
understood bro. However, i am a chill driver, not the kinda guy who accelerates like rockets, always on the green mode.

So, i made an experiment to see how does it different when using the eco mode vs not using it.

Usually when we fill our tank full (Rm78 - 25/10/17 price), we will normally gets 70KM before the fuel indicator meter goes down with one bar. but with eco mode on, i only manage to get 72KM.

hahaha okay, when i type this i thought as i am being super over expectation lol
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For me the fuel efficiency that Jazz offer is good enough and really prove it as fuel efficient car. In this age where fuel price keep fluctuate, it is nice to have car that able to use every drop of fuel you pump into the car.

Though I not blame you on the expectation, we all have set of standard for expectation anyway icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 25 2017, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(nakjadiDE @ Oct 25 2017, 04:56 PM)
understood bro. However, i am a chill driver, not the kinda guy who accelerates like rockets, always on the green mode.

So, i made an experiment to see how does it different when using the eco mode vs not using it.

Usually when we fill our tank full (Rm78 - 25/10/17 price), we will normally gets 70KM before the fuel indicator meter goes down with one bar. but with eco mode on, i only manage to get 72KM.

hahaha okay, when i type this i thought as i am being super over expectation lol
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If you're already chill driver, then it won't help much.
If you're transitioning from zoom zoom to chill then it'll help a lot.
From hybrid group, someone started with pure city drive at 15km/l, then 1 week later 18km/l then few weeks later reporting 20km/l.
Driving style saves more fuel than puny button tongue.gif
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post Oct 26 2017, 09:41 AM

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Got a ques, how do we mute the radio?
Seems like there's no button to do it
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post Oct 26 2017, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Junn @ Oct 26 2017, 09:41 AM)
Got a ques, how do we mute the radio?
Seems like there's no button to do it
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turn down the volume to 0 hahahah
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post Oct 26 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(danthe0 @ Oct 25 2017, 08:58 PM)
If you're already chill driver, then it won't help much.
If you're transitioning from zoom zoom to chill then it'll help a lot.
From hybrid group, someone started with pure city drive at 15km/l, then 1 week later 18km/l then few weeks later reporting 20km/l.
Driving style saves more fuel than puny button  tongue.gif
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How fast can you go on highway? the fastest ive driven was 120 km/h hahahaa.

so scare liao to drive above, feel a lil bit spaceyyyy (flying) lol - maybe due to the height.

Or maybe dont have the heart to fast very fast since im a chill chilll driver hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2017, 01:54 PM

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I remember last time my wife drove the GE at 140kmh with 1 hand again! notworthy.gif
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post Oct 26 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Oct 26 2017, 01:54 PM)
I remember last time my wife drove the GE at 140kmh with 1 hand again!  notworthy.gif
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walao. conclusion : i am chill chill driver hahaha.
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post Oct 26 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(nakjadiDE @ Oct 26 2017, 11:50 AM)
How fast can you go on highway? the fastest ive driven was 120 km/h hahahaa.

so scare liao to drive above, feel a lil bit spaceyyyy (flying) lol - maybe due to the height.

Or maybe dont have the heart to fast very fast since im a chill chilll driver  hmm.gif
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Tried 135kmph before and it's still stable.

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