Getting the silver ! Pretty good at 750km

I'll try with hypermiling and see if I can cloak at a higher distance. Guess can't beat ioniq range of 1000km

Edit: How do I thumbnail these pictures...?

Just got the 2017 Jazz Hybrid Modern Steel Metallic, coming from a 2008 Myvi 1.3L Auto (9 y.o. rattle cage  ).

Only driven 40km,

Things I love:
Good Points #1: S-i-l-e-n-t.
Good Points #2: Braking is progressive as hell. Perfect slowdown -> stops transition very very easily done.
Good Points #3: Gear shift? What's that? You won't even feel it during acceleration.
Good Points #4: Below...

Opinion#1: NVH is good (coming from a 9 y.o. car). It's quite insulated. The wind noise + road noise VS speed is very jarring.
Cruising at 80-90 km/h is equivalent to old beater at 50km/h, which is scary. You don't feel the speed due to the insulation. Perhaps Mazda's concept of allowing road noise into cabin was a good idea...

Observation #1: Gear shift felt, not jerk, @ 40-50km/h during deceleration/coast
Observation #2: Hybrid rolls forward after a short delay (500-700ms) after lifting off brake pedal. Closest analogy would be Proton's clutch CVT I think? Let go brake, wait a short while, only car rolls forward.

Bad Experience #1: Stopped at apex of shopping complex bump (no incline), open door to take ticket (tint, can't wind down window yet), close door, release brake pedal. Car rolled backwards. WTF'd! Jammed brakes, then press accelerator.     

Critique #1: The accelerator pedal is extremely laaaazy. I'm depressing about 2 cm but it's not moving??? Need press down to ~5 cm only car will move. Same behaviour observed during test drive also 
Critique #2: Sound system is bloody awful for such a silent car. The old Myvi's stock front 4" dash mounted speakers has more presence.
Rear speakers booming like mad. Vocals are blurry as hell, can't make out anything aside the boom. Short time (10 minutes) in Jazz V-spec 6 speakers also similar thing. Blurry mess.

ICE part 
Here's some frequency measurement I took using a calibrated mic, UMIK-1. Processing done in REW.
Methodology:
Laptop Bluetooth frequency sweep and measure with UMIK-1. (It's digital, Bluetooth codec should reconstruct back to flat right...   )
Measure 7 different positions and angles at driver's seating position then Average the frequency response.
Head Unit settings are Bass +0, Treble +0, Sound Effect OFF (Sedan/Compact/SUV/OFF)
A/C was at speed 1. Might have been blowing at mic, I forget. Mic has a wind shield though.
All measurements taken while on EV mode of course 



Here's the result. 45dB noise floor / completely silent.


Here's a smoothed version.


Good Points #4: The sound treatment for this car is good stuff. Most frequencies decay after ~90ms.


Extra stuff:
Here's the Head Unit's Bass and Treble response. Black is the +0 Bass +0 Treble.

Bass -5 ... +5


Treble -5 ... +5

So if I understand correctly , the whole graph thing states that change the HU to those settings to have a good experience ? Got it

[Gasoline consumption] Since
idling at the time of air conditioning use was a flow rate of 30 to 31 cc / min, it will be calculated to consume about 405 cc gasoline for 1 hour air conditioning use.
It is about 400 cc per hour when using the scorching sun, about 70 yen as a gasoline fee (170 yen / L × 0.4 L = 68 yen).

Edit: How do I thumbnail these pictures...?

Just got the 2017 Jazz Hybrid Modern Steel Metallic, coming from a 2008 Myvi 1.3L Auto (9 y.o. rattle cage  ).

Only driven 40km,

Things I love:
Good Points #1: S-i-l-e-n-t.
Good Points #2: Braking is progressive as hell. Perfect slowdown -> stops transition very very easily done.
Good Points #3: Gear shift? What's that? You won't even feel it during acceleration.
Good Points #4: Below...

Opinion#1: NVH is good (coming from a 9 y.o. car). It's quite insulated. The wind noise + road noise VS speed is very jarring.
Cruising at 80-90 km/h is equivalent to old beater at 50km/h, which is scary. You don't feel the speed due to the insulation. Perhaps Mazda's concept of allowing road noise into cabin was a good idea...

Observation #1: Gear shift felt, not jerk, @ 40-50km/h during deceleration/coast
Observation #2: Hybrid rolls forward after a short delay (500-700ms) after lifting off brake pedal. Closest analogy would be Proton's clutch CVT I think? Let go brake, wait a short while, only car rolls forward.

Bad Experience #1: Stopped at apex of shopping complex bump (no incline), open door to take ticket (tint, can't wind down window yet), close door, release brake pedal. Car rolled backwards. WTF'd! Jammed brakes, then press accelerator.     

Critique #1: The accelerator pedal is extremely laaaazy. I'm depressing about 2 cm but it's not moving??? Need press down to ~5 cm only car will move. Same behaviour observed during test drive also 
Critique #2: Sound system is bloody awful for such a silent car. The old Myvi's stock front 4" dash mounted speakers has more presence.
Rear speakers booming like mad. Vocals are blurry as hell, can't make out anything aside the boom. Short time (10 minutes) in Jazz V-spec 6 speakers also similar thing. Blurry mess.

ICE part 
Here's some frequency measurement I took using a calibrated mic, UMIK-1. Processing done in REW.
Methodology:
Laptop Bluetooth frequency sweep and measure with UMIK-1. (It's digital, Bluetooth codec should reconstruct back to flat right...   )
Measure 7 different positions and angles at driver's seating position then Average the frequency response.
Head Unit settings are Bass +0, Treble +0, Sound Effect OFF (Sedan/Compact/SUV/OFF)
A/C was at speed 1. Might have been blowing at mic, I forget. Mic has a wind shield though.
All measurements taken while on EV mode of course 

I can't agree more. The sound system is terrible. Coming from VW polo, I thought I have to get my ear checked.

Edit: How do I thumbnail these pictures...?

Just got the 2017 Jazz Hybrid Modern Steel Metallic, coming from a 2008 Myvi 1.3L Auto (9 y.o. rattle cage  ).

Only driven 40km,

Things I love:
Good Points #1: S-i-l-e-n-t.
Good Points #2: Braking is progressive as hell. Perfect slowdown -> stops transition very very easily done.
Good Points #3: Gear shift? What's that? You won't even feel it during acceleration.
Good Points #4: Below...

Opinion#1: NVH is good (coming from a 9 y.o. car). It's quite insulated. The wind noise + road noise VS speed is very jarring.
Cruising at 80-90 km/h is equivalent to old beater at 50km/h, which is scary. You don't feel the speed due to the insulation. Perhaps Mazda's concept of allowing road noise into cabin was a good idea...

Observation #1: Gear shift felt, not jerk, @ 40-50km/h during deceleration/coast
Observation #2: Hybrid rolls forward after a short delay (500-700ms) after lifting off brake pedal. Closest analogy would be Proton's clutch CVT I think? Let go brake, wait a short while, only car rolls forward.

Bad Experience #1: Stopped at apex of shopping complex bump (no incline), open door to take ticket (tint, can't wind down window yet), close door, release brake pedal. Car rolled backwards. WTF'd! Jammed brakes, then press accelerator.     

Critique #1: The accelerator pedal is extremely laaaazy. I'm depressing about 2 cm but it's not moving??? Need press down to ~5 cm only car will move. Same behaviour observed during test drive also 
Critique #2: Sound system is bloody awful for such a silent car. The old Myvi's stock front 4" dash mounted speakers has more presence.
Rear speakers booming like mad. Vocals are blurry as hell, can't make out anything aside the boom. Short time (10 minutes) in Jazz V-spec 6 speakers also similar thing. Blurry mess.

ICE part 
Here's some frequency measurement I took using a calibrated mic, UMIK-1. Processing done in REW.
Methodology:
Laptop Bluetooth frequency sweep and measure with UMIK-1. (It's digital, Bluetooth codec should reconstruct back to flat right...   )
Measure 7 different positions and angles at driver's seating position then Average the frequency response.
Head Unit settings are Bass +0, Treble +0, Sound Effect OFF (Sedan/Compact/SUV/OFF)
A/C was at speed 1. Might have been blowing at mic, I forget. Mic has a wind shield though.
All measurements taken while on EV mode of course 




Here's the result. 45dB noise floor / completely silent.


Here's a smoothed version.


Good Points #4: The sound treatment for this car is good stuff. Most frequencies decay after ~90ms.


Extra stuff:
Here's the Head Unit's Bass and Treble response. Black is the +0 Bass +0 Treble.

Bass -5 ... +5


Treble -5 ... +5

I can't agree more. The sound system is terrible. Coming from VW polo, I thought I have to get my ear checked.

① When using 1st speed, keep EV until the discharge current 30A, and the engine starts when exceeding 30A.
② When the battery is at the 2nd speed or more, when the battery is LV3, keep EV until 45A, engine start when it exceeds 45A.
③ At the second speed or more, when the battery is LV 4 or higher, EV keeps up to 55 A, when the battery exceeds 55 A, the engine starts.

【Disengaging condition】 If
after "onset", "Turn off the accelerator for more than 5 seconds while driving" or "Decelerate to 41 km / h or less", the symptoms will go away and you will begin EV running. Once it is canceled, it is valid until you turn off the system.

Just got my car

Quick Review

Positive
1. So quiet - start it up if the battery has juice and it's soo quiet , you can't hear a single thing at all
2. No dual clutch lag - Oh my god , coming from Fiesta , this car lacks of the stupid dual clutch lag , I believe the electric motor is assisting it
3. Cool display panel - it looks 3Dish and very nice
Neutral
The build quality - some parts it's good and others its meh..CKD , what can I say !
Cons
1. The fabric quality is horrible (heck my Axia G has better fabric)
2. Audio - It's a complete joke , my 6-speaker 80W Fiesta speaker just rocks and blows the mind. Everything sounds flat
3. Horrible HU - I thought Hyundai HU is bad , but this is super bad. Stupid Mirrorlink or Phonelink did not even work.
4. The Hybrid does not even come with automatic foldable mirror - seriously ????
Should you get the 2017 Jazz Hybrid - yes if you are tree hugger or want to be captain planet - else skip and get the V variant or save $$$ and get the E spec

Just got my car

Quick Review

Positive
1. So quiet - start it up if the battery has juice and it's soo quiet , you can't hear a single thing at all
2. No dual clutch lag - Oh my god , coming from Fiesta , this car lacks of the stupid dual clutch lag , I believe the electric motor is assisting it
3. Cool display panel - it looks 3Dish and very nice
Neutral
The build quality - some parts it's good and others its meh..CKD , what can I say !
Cons
1. The fabric quality is horrible (heck my Axia G has better fabric)
2. Audio - It's a complete joke , my 6-speaker 80W Fiesta speaker just rocks and blows the mind. Everything sounds flat
3. Horrible HU - I thought Hyundai HU is bad , but this is super bad. Stupid Mirrorlink or Phonelink did not even work.
4. The Hybrid does not even come with automatic foldable mirror - seriously ????
Should you get the 2017 Jazz Hybrid - yes if you are tree hugger or want to be captain planet - else skip and get the V variant or save $$$ and get the E spec

Tbh, i really disappointed Honda cut off lot of things especially hybrid version. V spec actually got look of goodies than hybrid spec 

1- Why no paddle shift? its dual clutch transmission 

2- No folding mirror

3- No half leather half fabric that V spec got

4- The rims,        no offence but its ugly

I know the price thrown to 'hybrid' but...

Pos 1.
It only starts up silent if battery has juice AND engine temperature is above 55degreesCelcius.  [edit: unconfirmed]
This means, Morning cold startup = VRRRRRRRRRRM     
Neighbour's Prius C no such thing.     

Cons 1. Eh fabric better than Axia... ? I thought this was good... Hmm...
Cons 4. No fog light, no button press to fold mirror... HMMM.

Observation #3: DRL turns off when rotate headlight stalk at first level... wtf... why...  I understand full headlight turn off DRL, but why even first level... ???

After engine break-in, have to try VTEC + electric motor assist  . Now... must... control... 

1. for me not important and i know for other it is
2. This is 2017 ,and I can't take that
3. I am okay with full fabric but with good quality
4. Rims are fugly as hell

If you are in S mode from 0, it will be fun. But the car seems to struggle when you try to make quick overtaking at highway when you already around 110km/h.

Ya, struggle because battery assist cuts off at ~90 km/h. source:youtube
Essentially, carrying dead weight above 90 km/h.
Our engine also Atkinson cycle, lower hp + torque output, so should be equivalent to 1.4L engine once reach >100 km/h. (same like Kia Rio, ~1,200kg, 1.4L)
1.8L equivalent engine output from 0-60 km/h, ~1.5L output from 70-90 km/h, ~1.4L output >100 km/h

This car has so many quirks...  :confused:

I dont know the fabric but i can feel the foam inside is cheap, as if it wont last very long before its thinned out. What freebies/ discount did you get?

2. Audio - It's a complete joke , my 6-speaker 80W Fiesta speaker just rocks and blows the mind. Everything sounds flat
3. Horrible HU - I thought Hyundai HU is bad , but this is super bad. Stupid Mirrorlink or Phonelink did not even work.