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post Apr 11 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 10 2017, 10:38 AM)
next service will req them use back normal oil
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30 weight oil is semi-synthetic or mineral lor... the only fully-synthetic one available is the one with the red labels... and that is more expensive and the wrong viscosity.. 40 weight i think...
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post Apr 11 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(IVL @ Apr 10 2017, 09:43 PM)
Going to get my Jazz E later of the month, also doing some financial planning for this year so I would like to ask if I drive only 10,000km in the first year, I still need to go for 6mths Service once and 12mths service once? can I opt for just 1 time service due to low mileage? Or by doing so my warranty will be void?
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actually it is a lot cheaper now with 10k service... the older jazz with 5k intervals costs about 3.6k for service according to honda schedule for a total of 3 years...

now, you save 2 times the oil and most importantly the service labour... 1.5 man hours each service i believe..

i drive about 11 to 12k per year... i change oil 3 times, all under mileage... but, i already doing it outside of honda la..
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post Apr 11 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(zhihao4456 @ Apr 11 2017, 08:57 AM)
guys, i was wondering if the due mileage for service is 20k, we can exceed how much quota so that warranty wont be breach?

because i left 300km before due and appointment for service is in 7 days time~ still quite some time and i need to use the car for work
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actually service intervals is whichever comes first...

but sometimes due to booking difficulties.. there are some leeway allowed for owners to exceed a bit although not strictly written down on anything..

as long as you have made booking for it in advance... there should be nothing they can do to you if you exceed just by a bit...

for instance, let's say you made booking 2 weeks in advance so that it coincides with your recommended next service date on the dot... but in between the 2 weeks you suddenly had to travel outstation and went over the next service mileage before the appointment date even got close and you cannot make another appointment anytime nearer due to all full.

i don't think they will fault you for it... as long as you can prove it as everything is in system.. there is also good reasons they do not want to list this down in black & white to avoid abuse... imagine they say an allowance of 1,500km or 1 month... everyone will just aim for service after 11,500km or the 7th month instead of 10,000km or 6th month like the schedule says...

so... it is something they need to apply human judgement when it comes as per case by case basis...there is no fixed ruling on how to penalize or anything...and definitely they don't want to be that deadbeat strict as well and piss off people...

also helps if you are not consistently late for all the services as they might think it is intentional and would then void your warranty with no excuses to be entertained...

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post Apr 11 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Apr 11 2017, 02:49 PM)
actually service intervals is whichever comes first...

but sometimes due to booking difficulties.. there are some leeway allowed for owners to exceed a bit although not strictly written down on anything..

as long as you have made booking for it in advance... there should be nothing they can do to you if you exceed just by a bit...

for instance, let's say you made booking 2 weeks in advance so that it coincides with your recommended next service date on the dot... but in between the 2 weeks you suddenly had to travel outstation and went over the next service mileage before the appointment date even got close and you cannot make another appointment anytime nearer due to all full.

i don't think they will fault you for it... as long as you can prove it as everything is in system.. there is also good reasons they do not want to list this down in black & white to avoid abuse... imagine they say an allowance of 1,500km or 1 month... everyone will just aim for service after 11,500km or the 7th month instead of 10,000km or 6th month like the schedule says...

so... it is something they need to apply human judgement when it comes as per case by case basis...there is no fixed ruling on how to penalize or anything...and definitely they don't want to be that deadbeat strict as well and piss off people...

also helps if you are not consistently late for all the services as they might think it is intentional and would then void your warranty with no excuses to be entertained...
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true on what you said~ I have made the appointment on 4/April and they told me latest available slow is on 20/April which is about 2 weeks+

I had a colleague that told me he had once encounter same matter and he said that the service advisor said as long it does not exceed 1000km from the due mileage for service then it will be ok....

But somehow I sometimes feel that if people like dun really care and hope you void the warranty so that they will be free from responsibility. I was planning to go for walk-in service instead of going for the appointment which I do not want to get any issue but at the same time I'm worried that walk-in customers car will be treated very cincai.
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post Apr 11 2017, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(zhihao4456 @ Apr 11 2017, 03:06 PM)
true on what you said~ I have made the appointment on 4/April and they told me latest available slow is on 20/April which is about 2 weeks+

I had a colleague that told me he had once encounter same matter and he said that the service advisor said as long it does not exceed 1000km from the due mileage for service then it will be ok....

But somehow I sometimes feel that if people like dun really care and hope you void the warranty so that they will be free from responsibility. I was planning to go for walk-in service instead of going for the appointment which I do not want to get any issue but at the same time I'm worried that walk-in customers car will be treated very cincai.
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It is a blanket statement la. But, i do think they will apply sound judgement when the time comes when you have a big warranty claim and then suddenly you get flagged due to a few overdue service schedules.

Maybe they might reject at first but you just need to prove to them that it is not that you do not want to service on time but it is a problem with scheduling even thought when you intend to service on time.

I doubt they just want to make enemies after the airbag replacement thing when everyone just rushed into at the same time.

Actually walk-in customers are treated the same. But, for walk-in customers the difference is that they have no guarantees for you on when your car will be ready as it is slot into the line. Say for example if you take a 9am slot, your car will for sure be ready before lunch on a normal service. But, if you walk-in. They will just tell you to come back by 5.30 because they have a lot of cars lined up on the day itself. Priority is not given to you la is what i am trying to say.

They can also reject your walk in if you came in too late and said they might not finish on the same day or something. Actually most centers accept walk in before a certain time of the day only. So, if you go by maybe 11 or lunch time, they already close for accepting walk-ins.

As for whether cincai, they rush work or anything. I believe even scheduled cars also will rush work if they have too much to do on the day. They have people there doing scheduling and everything and in theory this should avoid the mess ups.

There is no way to say for sure. This i am sure. Not like you can pick the mechanic also which does the job.

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post Apr 13 2017, 08:31 AM

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http://indianautosblog.com/2017/04/interio...rst-time-263000

Wonder will have facelift anytime? Should I hold..?
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post Apr 13 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Apr 13 2017, 08:31 AM)
http://indianautosblog.com/2017/04/interio...rst-time-263000

Wonder will have facelift anytime? Should I hold..?
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I guess Honda Malaysia is busy churning out HRV and BRV enough. Jazz seems become a niche market.
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post Apr 13 2017, 12:04 PM

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Can we use LED bulbs for the honda jazz 2014?
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post Apr 14 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Apr 13 2017, 12:04 PM)
Can we use LED bulbs for the honda jazz 2014?
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I think should not be an issue, seen people using LED bulb for Jazz GK
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post Apr 14 2017, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Apr 11 2017, 03:38 PM)
30 weight oil is semi-synthetic or mineral lor... the only fully-synthetic one available is the one with the red labels... and that is more expensive and the wrong viscosity.. 40 weight i think...
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i got SN 0W 30 fully synthetic EO from Honda SC biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

got details here https://www.honda.com.my/corporate/press_re...ine-Engine-Oil-
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post Apr 15 2017, 10:35 AM

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post Apr 15 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(mym123 @ Apr 14 2017, 07:48 PM)
i got SN 0W 30 fully synthetic EO from Honda SC  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

got details here  https://www.honda.com.my/corporate/press_re...ine-Engine-Oil-
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nice to know... i think they realize also that 0w-20 might be a bit too thin on days that are super duper hot...
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post Apr 15 2017, 11:18 AM

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wahsai... the red label one is it... pain oh that one...
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post Apr 19 2017, 12:12 PM

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sifus,

usually drive on morning and evening and mostly cruising on highway.
i believe is more recommend to take thicker engine oil right? such as 0w30 or 5w30
havent change any oil as only done less than 3400km after 2 months.
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post Apr 19 2017, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(CanonLee @ Apr 19 2017, 12:12 PM)
sifus,

usually drive on morning and evening and mostly cruising on highway.
i believe is more recommend to take thicker engine oil right? such as 0w30 or 5w30
havent change any oil as only done less than 3400km after 2 months.
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IMHO, 0W30 and 5W30 has no difference in our tropical country because the xW is meant for the oil viscosity at 0 degree temperature.

But the number after W is more important because it states the viscosity when the engine is hot and running.
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post Apr 20 2017, 09:47 AM

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Today do my 20k service, when they show me the quote, they trying to bill me 500++

Normal service is already RM290+, then i want do alignment and balancing which is RM79+, then there is an extra RM185+ stating Full System Service which shoots up to RM550+

I was like WTF is that, they told me is a recomended annually bassis service that helps to clean the engine carbon deposit. Im not sure whether is it neccesary but i told them to take it out in the end before final billing.

I would want to know is that really necessary? Or how often do u do carbon cleaning for engine?
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post Apr 20 2017, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(zhihao4456 @ Apr 20 2017, 09:47 AM)
Today do my 20k service, when they show me the quote, they trying to bill me 500++

Normal service is already RM290+, then i want do alignment and balancing which is RM79+, then there is an extra RM185+ stating Full System Service which shoots up to RM550+

I was like WTF is that, they told me is a recomended annually bassis service that helps to clean the engine carbon deposit. Im not sure whether is it neccesary but i told them to take it out in the end before final billing.

I would want to know is that really necessary? Or how often do u do carbon cleaning for engine?
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just follow what ever is recommended here : https://www.honda.com.my/model/maintenance/jazz?id=53
and anything to do with tyre (balancing, alignment, brakes) just do it outside. It's cheaper 1/2 than Honda.

And also I skip any cabin filter and engine air filter coz I maintenance it by myself. Outside is much much cheaper and higher quality. I am using BOSCH Carbon filter for cabin filter and K&N for engine air filter.
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post Apr 22 2017, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Quanta @ Apr 20 2017, 08:38 PM)
just follow what ever is recommended here : https://www.honda.com.my/model/maintenance/jazz?id=53
and anything to do with tyre (balancing, alignment, brakes) just do it outside. It's cheaper 1/2 than Honda.

And also I skip any cabin filter and engine air filter coz I maintenance it by myself. Outside is much much cheaper and higher quality. I am using BOSCH Carbon filter for cabin filter and K&N for engine air filter.
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for the filter,
is honda going to void any warranty if using the 3rd party filter?
i bought cabin filters to change every 10000km (as honda is changing every 20000km), so i use 1 every 20000km interval alternately

i always prefer the K&N for my previous cars. if i use K&N, will honda going to void the engine warranty?

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QUOTE(zhihao4456 @ Apr 20 2017, 10:47 AM)
Today do my 20k service, when they show me the quote, they trying to bill me 500++

Normal service is already RM290+, then i want do alignment and balancing which is RM79+, then there is an extra RM185+ stating Full System Service which shoots up to RM550+

I was like WTF is that, they told me is a recomended annually bassis service that helps to clean the engine carbon deposit. Im not sure whether is it neccesary but i told them to take it out in the end before final billing.

I would want to know is that really necessary? Or how often do u do carbon cleaning for engine?
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i have never do carbon cleaning or decarbonize in my entire life of owning car for the past 32 years....its not necessary unless if the exhaust emitted smokes (carbon buildup on the intake valves)....

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post Apr 22 2017, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(CanonLee @ Apr 22 2017, 10:00 AM)
for the filter,
is honda going to void any warranty if using the 3rd party filter?
i bought cabin filters to change every 10000km (as honda is changing every 20000km), so i use 1 every 20000km interval alternately

i always prefer the K&N for my previous cars. if i use K&N, will honda going to void the engine warranty?
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That depends on ur relationship with service centre. Usually they will close one eye if u did not modify heavily or skip servicing so much.

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