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rinsedpie
post Jan 9 2017, 10:15 PM

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bro, imagine the water in the tank (glucose in food) and the pipe that brings that water around (blood vessels that bring the glucose around), and the faucet (Insulin), and you waiting thirstily at the sink (you).

without Insulin, aint no glucose gonna get into yer cells, bro...and all those glucose are just gonna damage yer blood vessels much like those trapped water gonna rust yer pipes.

what ya need is Insulin; its got very distinct molecular structures. Bitter gourds aint any insluin

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post Jan 11 2017, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 10 2017, 06:29 AM)
You have no experience so I don't blame you for just mirroring what you have googled. There's a good and bad in everything. Insulin can be a life saver but it is also very dangerous.

The side effects are hypoglycemia and risk Coma and death if not properly monitored.

Let me tell you from experience. A friend of mine fell into hypoglycemia a few years ago and although was saved in time by family members, suffered brain damage and now no longer acts like a normal person.

Now I have my own experience. This certain hospital HU** prescribed 12 Units of Insulin for my mother 3 Times a day before meals and another maintenance  dose (Diff Insulin) at 10 pm at night. We were not warned about the side effects and the 'so called'  trained nurse even told us to give the same dose as long as the reading was above 4.

Luckily I monitored her Blood Sugar levels constantly 4-5 times a day. Many Days her readings fell into the danger zone 3.2, 3.1, 2.8. 2.4..... Each time I managed to give her sugar in the nick of time to revive her.

For those busy people who can't monitor for the elderly , I fear many might have just trusted and followed what the hospital told them to do and I guess some would have died and the blame would be put on the disease without realising it was the Insulin causing Hypo that killed them.

For your info,  I am now only giving my mother a dose of 2 or 3 before meals to keep her levels in normal range. A huge difference from the 12 Units prescribed by the Hospital.  If I just give a few units extra units she will go into Hypo and put her life in danger again.

So now I am no longer risking my mother's life on Insulin just for a dose of 2 or 3.

And also for your info Bitter Gourd and other foodstuff might not be Insulin but it can lower and regulate your sugar levels , just how much depends on different people. I am trying to find natural alternatives to bring down her sugar , some may work , some may not  , I am sure I will find a better solution.

Doesn't mean Insulin is the only solution, unless you are type 1 Diabetes and your Pancreas no longer functioning.
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Whoa, 12 units three times a day is quite hefty, unless yer mom is ih her 40-50s, eats a lot of glucose and is heavy in weight. That maintenance insulin you gotta pay attention too. She can lapse into lower sugars in her sleep and on the long run, this is damaging too. eg yer mom can go, (if checked every hour), say; from midningt 7,6,5,4,3,3,3,4,5.. when she wakes up, you see ''5'', but those 3s and 4s are aint great.

If she is 70s, 80s...dude, we dont need very strict control anymore over the blood sugars (but dont let them go 12, 13, 14 etc ya know?). Look at that long-acting insulin too, bro. That long-acting one is not as benign as you think. ..and with the sugars of yer mom that yer typed up there, i'd ran amok at the nurse for dosing it all wrong. Good luck bro.

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post Jan 11 2017, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Jan 10 2017, 09:42 AM)
Since you haf the blood glucose machine, why not do a simple test? Administer bitter gourd or some other natural food u think may help, and test it post 2 hours after consumption.
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Good idea.
Can report to us the results too
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post Jan 11 2017, 09:58 PM

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[quote=Ngto,Jan 11 2017, 09:19 PM]

If its once at night then it sound like its Lantus (Insulin Glargine). Yeah, you tirtrated it correct there. U see, really, on overage, assuming we are not heavy with reasonable diet, we just need, say 20-30 units og equivalent Novorapid per 24hrs you know; I'd say i needed 25 units maybe less. We are designed, on very good diet and exercise and weight, to last about 120 years (150years?) from our own insulin from the pancreas. But look at us, everything in cars and escalators.. we can only go 70-80 years... what with our nasik lemak and roti canai some more..

Ah, i think with your titration and care, your mom will be ok lah; u must tell the nurse too..she might learn something..so that other people dont need to go thru hypos.

Tell us what u find on searches on bitter gourds. If it helps i want to use it in my diet to save my pancreas biggrin.gif

 

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