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post Apr 3 2017, 11:00 PM

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Vios fuel consumption is better than city ?? http://beetify.com/article/1491216892/
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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Apr 4 2017, 06:57 AM)
I don't trust beetify news ..IMO, this is juz one of the rubbish website here
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Any alternative / other website links can tell which car got the best mileage ?

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Apr 4 2017, 09:01 AM)
Under RM100K  range ? Mazda 2 / Honda City and Honda Jazz ...why do u need to know ? Buying a car not only about fuel consumption ...u need to consider driving experience and comfortability as well ..
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What to look for in driving experience and comfortability when new owner want to buy a car?
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Apr 4 2017, 09:12 AM)
As mentioned many many times before, fuel consumption is a very subjective matter. There are several factors that play a part towards it.
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What are the major several factors? Safety, gadgets, interior design, comfortable, consumer complaining index, ..etc service centre pre ahead appointments..
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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Apr 25 2017, 06:56 PM)
Vios kena Pui pui liao..
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Perhaps compare CVT(M +7x) vs CVT, not against 5xMT. Pickup is not important at all, but pupil able to brake / stop effectively, efficiently and confident with both front and rear braking DISCs is utmost safety, with Double OHC low rpm engine instead SOHC.

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Apr 25 2017, 09:30 PM)
This guy always look down on CVT. But time round his Vios MT lose to our City CVT.. His Vios rev to certain RPM then release clutch and handbrake. The City also rev to 4k rpm with brakes then release brakes. So actually i find it fair and square.
Pickup is important for me to overtake cars. Even though disc brakes are better but due to our car is light, drum brake is sufficient. Braking distance comparison was shown in one of Paultan video before. City lose to just abit.
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No right or wrong here. Car users preference is different on safety, fuel consumption, turning radius, overtake, high rpm, features..etc. anyway, it is just a B segment car discussion here.

Just curious, did anyone ask Japanese automotive experts / peoples and ask their view opinions on FMEA, SPC, Poka Yoke, 8D, 6sigma green belt, Root cause analysis, worldwide feedback / sales, recall quality defects, ..etc. on automotive companies / industry ? Paultan is just an automotive news update / blogger, not an automotive expert.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 30 2017, 09:43 PM)
The only reason people still buys vios is becoz:
1) With huge discounts now, its much more cheaper
2) Its godcar. Nuff said
3) According to lowyat myth, it attracts more amois
4) Parents/unkers/aunties/distant relatives says toyota quality > all
5) Parents/unkers/aunties/distant relatives says toyota RV > all
6) More comfy (bouncy?) on uneven roads
7) Saw the vios drift advert and think its easier to it rice-up
8) Smaller car, easier to park
9) The 360 cameras is rather interesting
10) Family, relatives, frens, FB contacts, etc, are toyota loyalists

U test driven both. Which u think is better suited for ur driving style? Vios dun have telescopic steering, so it limits ur reach.

Compare the different kits for both cars, which is more useful for u? And the looks as well.
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Many friends or relatives in Japan, or ppls study mechanical/automotive undergraduate course, knew Toyota lean automotive manufacturing is great built and improved through many methods/processes such as 8D report, FMEA, Root cause analysis, poka yoke, 6sigma green belt, SPC, ..etc..etc Check these out, as it will be important decision making.

1) The worldwide sales leader is the key important measurement, other than VSC/TC, new CVT Double OHC engine, (Honda is still using Single OHC), good radius turning, front + rear BRAKING DISC, ..etc https://www.quora.com/Internal-Combustion-E...double-camshaft
http://www.whyhighend.com/sohc-vs-dohc.html

2) Another measurement is many old Toyota cars still running well on the road. Why?? Engine robustness,quality reliability?? Only this country, many new Honda cars on the road, unlike other countries.. The preference of every individual and taste are differents.For telescopic steering, adjust your car seat accdlg.

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QUOTE(fx9 @ May 1 2017, 02:20 AM)
Ohh please for god's sake!
Throwing out jargons like 8D, spc, fmea, root cause analysis etc doesn't make your points any more valid.
These standards are the basics of the basics of the car industry.
Even proton vendors have it. Just that proton & its vendors did very shitty job on implementing them.
So all the standards you mentioned means shit.

Granted Toyota is very good at controlling quality being a Japanese company, but guess what, Honda is a Japanese company too.

1) quoting source from quora Has as much as credibility as quoting average joe poster from lowyat.

2) where your data on your claim?
Hey genius, Toyota has been dominating Malaysian market for donkey years, ofc you'll see more old Toyota on the road. But I don't see many old Honda breaking down on the road like you claimed. So another of your theory goes down the drain.

Honda is by no means a perfect car. But at least Honda doesn't treat Malaysia like a fool like UMW Toyota that strips all the latest tech & have the guts to tell us VSC is not important. Apparently because you can drift with vios, everything is fine. Haha.
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The taste and preference of every individuaLs are different when selecting and buying new car.. Every big automotive companies and it's supply chain got lean automotive manufacturing methods, but the integrity of the proven problem solving and improvements are varies. Lean automotive manufacturing got many methods and always improving.

The worldwide sales is the key important measurement And huge complaints in Service Centre 's social networking after sales will be another factor for new car owner to consider.

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ May 1 2017, 08:28 AM)
This is so funny . Why do buyer have to know so many knowledge to get a car ? Nowadays very easy to make a decision , Vios offer 4speed auto , no VSA , juz forget about it ... Pay RM75K for this spec ,only uncle aunty will get this car .

Now , Toyota knew about this , go refresh the Vios and simply put in CVT and VSA to attract new buyer , too late already . With the ugly interior and whole car design , there is no way to attract ppl to pay Rm75k-90k for this car ....

Engine robustness? My myvi using 4speed auto 150k mileage also no issue ...thats why Vios 4speed auto can last that long . Dohc sohc ? As long as engine responsive and powerful enuf , who really care it's not DOHC ?

No Telescopic steering then adjust car seat ? Hahahahhahahahahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahh

Vios fan will only keep mentioning Honda city gm6 no rear disk brake . Wait till u want to change brake pad ,then only u jump upside down when it cost rm350 for brake pad for rear .drum brake IS DEFINITELY CHEAPER .with my new Goodyear assurance triplemax, I still confidently drive at high-speed 140km/h even with drum brake .
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Previous Honda don't have VSA on all standard specs. Becos competitors force minimum safety features on all specs, need to follow. Huh.. Can afford to buy 75k and above car, rm 350 for rear brake DISC pad need to grumble or teeth pain??
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/under-the-ho...e-pads-last.htm

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ May 1 2017, 10:23 AM)
Ya .true enuf .but this netmask8 very funny .time to add him into ignore list ..kakkakaka
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Worldwide sales is the key important measurement. You ignore it... no need argue rationally.. Your choice and decision, as you cannot elaborate automotive technical well. Will continue feedback here accordingly.
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QUOTE(baiseliange @ May 1 2017, 11:49 AM)
Are you talking about Toyota worldwide sales measurement in a Honda thread will make more sense? Just buy what you like and stop being like a pro please.
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I just replying some pros and cons in earlier posts. Different people got different preference and wisdom.. Alright. At least I have been to Honda 's assemble plant as visitor pass at Pegoh, Alor Gajah MLK to see their Lean automotive manufacturing, TPM, 5S, Poka Yoke ..etc myself. Just an input discussion..

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QUOTE(zezi18 @ May 18 2017, 06:35 PM)
This is normal. When i complain to sc they said this is within their spec
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Make an visitor / guest appointment to visit Honda Assembly plant in Pegoh, Alor Gajah Melaka to see how to assemble car.
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QUOTE(Suarez23 @ May 19 2017, 02:13 PM)
Going to take my car today, the built quality really so bad?!? Feels like I'm collecting PROTON car more than HONDA.
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Got many checklist to tick and sign?? What if you don't accept the quality and don't put yr sign on the checklist/goods receivable/tx invoice
after car inspection ? Curious?

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QUOTE(AaronLJW @ Jun 14 2017, 04:55 PM)
80% highway 20% city
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Push ECO Mode all the time? Got pickup ?
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/25/news/compa...ptcy/index.html
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http://malaysiable.news/doceEZNNnVKaGRlSnc9/1969
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 21 2017, 07:33 AM)
U come city thread, will tell u buy city
U come vios thread, will tell u buy vios
U come Persona thread, will tell u buy persona
U come EX5 thread, will tell u buy EX5

So whats the point of u asking? Why not go to showroom and see them and try urself?
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Good comments. But this will be helpful too. ==>> https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/revealed...ound-the-world/
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 27 2017, 08:58 PM)
Honda totally outpaces themselves compared with last year. And then last year was already an amazing year. Totally leaves Toyota in the dust.
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the only top sales here, but not for worldwide countries sales.

https://www.driven.co.nz/news/news/revealed...ound-the-world/

https://www.regtransfers.co.uk/content/worl...turers-country/

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jul 27 2017, 09:40 PM)
Sell so many at the expense of quality? hmm.gif Because it certainly seems like there's more complaints of their cars now compared to 2 years ago.
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Proton is even better than Honda?
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QUOTE(Boykidz93 @ Aug 2 2017, 02:35 PM)
This is really sad  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  But I am still planning to get CITY V-spec by end of the year. Funding now  drool.gif  drool.gif
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http://www.leesharing.com/2017/08/honda-8r...-bonus.html?m=1

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