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 Honda City Gen 6 V.0發, FL incoming :)

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post Aug 28 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(ZGMF-X24S @ Aug 28 2017, 01:25 PM)
how do u do HDMI waze? MHL cable?
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FL or pre-FL ?
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post Aug 28 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(mck_cf @ Aug 28 2017, 05:44 PM)
Thank you sifu prasys video - how to mirror Android phone to 2017 FL City, especially the use of phonelink apps (kind of interesting feature)

Sifu babylon52281 very useful photos to install CFL HU Bypass cable.

Need to spend additional $$ (beside Bypass cable & MHL-HDMI) change new android phone that have mirror function in order to use waze on the CFL HU  sweat.gif
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Else get chromecast , do you have any android phone , just buy chromecast (or on a budget get mirascreen - its about RM 58 in lazada)

http://www.lazada.com.my/mirascreen-dlna-a...37954.html?ff=1


Then you don't need to spend on HDMI-MHL cable or what-so-ever. The app works with normal android phones , you do not need link special apps or what-so-ever

the app works with android 4.4 and above biggrin.gif
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post Aug 28 2017, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(mck_cf @ Aug 28 2017, 07:30 PM)
I tot android phone must have mirror function & need to be enable even using mira or anycast?
I heard android phone mirror function is not just android version only but also hardware, so not all android 4.4 and above will have mirror function unless the hardware built-in in the phone.

I like the phonelink apps which allow basic control of waze from HU, to me it's useful.
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No need

The software will clone it. Trust me , like chromecast - you dont need mirroring function. Chromecast app does it for you.

Anycast/MIRA is to do wifi direct aka without app. If you want with app can be done. sure there are some lags but then you are not playing movie or something

for waze/google maps/listening to your mp3 - it's perfectly fine

Trust me , I know these kind of stuff biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2017, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(danthe0 @ Aug 28 2017, 10:46 PM)
Nah, that's just driving style. Eco remaps throttle input, so need to re-adapt to new mapping, or just turn it off.
I'm running Jazz hybrid on normal mode with trip average: 28km/l free flow 85%/15% highway/city. Return trip 25km/l, 20 minutes jam of total 60 minutes travel time.
If running sports mode vroom vroom under 100km/h, 28km/l -> 20km/l  icon_idea.gif  I dare not imagine jam + sports mode + jerking tranny.
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Ugh envy you , 28km/l or 25km/l . I am now at 18km/l. Soon , I'll be clocking 21-22 hopefully hehehe
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post Aug 30 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 29 2017, 11:53 PM)
Try to continue HIP via their panel insurers.
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I plan to do that because of the perks of HIP
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post Aug 30 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Christensen @ Aug 30 2017, 02:39 PM)
ur car how many years d? mind to share ur quotation?
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My jazz is just like brand new


QUOTE(sukhri @ Aug 30 2017, 04:06 PM)
Yeah.. just pick my city hybrid.. pearl white
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Nice , do not forget to post pics of your millage
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post Aug 31 2017, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(danthe0 @ Aug 30 2017, 10:00 PM)
Hybrid,
So I was driving into residential area in fully EV mode. Parked the car. Then felt the bonnet. It was SAME AS OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE.

I thought engine needs to be hot for the oil to flow around to lubricate the parts ? If driving on EV and engine at outside air temperature (bonnet), if suddenly race the engine, potential premature damage ???
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The problem with Honda Hybrid is that the engine still kicks in - when you start the car the engine warms up and the engine is still kept warm or something. So even if you drive in EV, the engine is still warm and is ever ready to switch on when the system thinks it needs engine powwer

QUOTE(outsider @ Aug 31 2017, 08:17 AM)
How long u wait from the date u order? I plan to get 1. Waiting for my friend give the best discount only.  biggrin.gif
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Can't get a lot of discounts on hybrid as it's still new but better compared to Ioniq as they offer no discounts
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post Aug 31 2017, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Aug 31 2017, 09:55 AM)
In terms of maintenance cost and schedule. Any major differences between the hybrid vs the v spec?
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The schedule is the same , the cost slightly differs

You can check out the schedule from Honda , look at HEV , it's for hybrid
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post Aug 31 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 31 2017, 12:32 PM)
I recalled some of the test drive review said the engine only kicks in after certain speed. If what u said true, then the engine still running constantly and not really EV mode at low speed. hmm.gif

Ioniq, i think its very value for its price lah. Worthy C-segment Civic FC fighter with oodles of safety gadgets and true hybrid system (which FC still dont have). I was considering this as well, but while the spirit is willing the pocket is crying.
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Engine does kick in at certain speed , cause you can hear the noise but I believe the engine is being warmed up or kept in
super low idle for it to kick start

To me Ioniq is nice but kimchi cars do not have good RV value and the service centres are meh. Plus handled by Sime Darby Motors , bad experience with Ford - hence I decided to change to Honda

QUOTE(dreamer_toons @ Aug 31 2017, 12:57 PM)
Anyone knows where can I download a copy of the manual, or read it online?

Hope to know more about it while waiting for the arrival of my ride.
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Which model ?
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post Aug 31 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Aug 31 2017, 02:30 PM)
Base on what i understand and test drive i think city can go in ev mode more easier than ioniq.

Yes for the 2 car there a limit on the ev range.

Ioniq using lithium polymer and honda using lithium battery.

Hyundai u get 3 year service free labour and part.
Honda i ask salesman no free part....

Hyundai more exp when purchase
Honda cheaper to paid when purchase
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Not really Ioniq prefers EV mode . Ioniq has a larger battery capacity and Ioniq is built as a hybrid car like Prius


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post Aug 31 2017, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(monster2020 @ Aug 31 2017, 02:51 PM)
funny thing is when i drive the engine do like to kick in do support but it may be the air conditioning or other thing that start the engine on...

i forgot ask the sale man is that ac electric type or normal belt driven compressor type
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It should be electric as the AC can run without starting the engine and Ioniq is desgined to be hybrid/EV in mind
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post Aug 31 2017, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 31 2017, 03:22 PM)
I only test drove ioniq so my comparison with CityH is from reviews. What i see (i think), CityH engine kicks in at 15~20kmh. Ioniq was at 40~50kmh.

Ioniq system is a bit more smarter. Pure EV at low speed, engine kicks in at mid-higher speed & acceleration, & at high cruising speeds the electric motor kick in again to boost the engine. However, while the EV accelerations is good, the 1.6L engine struggles for pickup. Only at Sports Mode (where engine stays ON + EV), pickup is gooding like Civic turbo.

And
Lanekeep Assist  drool.gif
BLIS  drool.gif
Adaptive Cruise Control  drool.gif
Didnt try out the AEB though  sweat.gif
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That's the fun part of the Ioniq , it's the safety features that comes along with it and the whole designed stuff for it




QUOTE(dreamer_toons @ Aug 31 2017, 03:52 PM)
The user manual for FL City.

Been trying to google but no luck.
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You can search for honda jazz india , they have a manual. The instrument and few other things are the same.


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post Aug 31 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Aug 31 2017, 08:52 PM)
this is not mine, but my fb net fren one, he did installed the digipad on his Pre-FL e-spec, got gps support somemore  brows.gif
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Can I get in touch with him
QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 31 2017, 10:13 PM)
Yeah from India reviews, Digipad has GPS navi and mirrorlink iirc. Looking at height comparison, I dont think it can fit the FL HU slot thou. sweat.gif

Just looking at it you can alredi feel the cheapness of FL HU.
Digipad > Mitsus pre-FL >>>>>>>> Fujitsu FL vmad.gif

What about JDM Grace HU? Anybody knows what model isit?
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Philippines head unit is also good - check it out as well

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post Aug 31 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 31 2017, 10:36 PM)
Pinoy one will be suited for Left Hand Drive. Similar to those China HU so not so convenient, imho.
And if it starts pointing me towards Marawi , I'll  sweat.gif
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Then it's India

Indonesia one sucks , Thailand one sucks

http://autohelpindia.blogspot.my/2017/05/h...ml?view=sidebar

Digipad can support Android auto/CarPlay - wow , this guy may able to hack it and get AA/Car Play to work
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post Sep 1 2017, 06:24 PM

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Good news

Managed to hack mirror link aka phone link to work with non maps apps

Details will be coming in soon
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post Sep 1 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 31 2017, 10:36 PM)
Pinoy one will be suited for Left Hand Drive. Similar to those China HU so not so convenient, imho.
And if it starts pointing me towards Marawi , I'll  sweat.gif
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Managed to do the bypass and even allow other apps like YouTube without modifying the headunit


My objective is to modify as much on the app side to get that HU to work nicely on what I wanted to do. Now need to figure out on how to get it to work for iPhone users


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post Sep 3 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(hvaly87 @ Sep 1 2017, 09:32 PM)
Not able to play the youtube?
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Not sure , need to visit in youtubbe

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 1 2017, 10:14 PM)
Great job on the app hack, thou I have concerns on stability and app security  sweat.gif . But I guess not different that hacking my car with the bypass cable then.

I have to say, having the video playback during driving was ... kinda distracting at 1st. Night times especially.

Wanna ask, have you managed to run music play while using navigation apps? Or is there a navigation app that allows music playback but switches to voice when give navigation commands?
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Yes , Waze + Spotify

If you run it , it would normally tune down the music and then switch it back
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post Sep 4 2017, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Sep 4 2017, 10:00 AM)
Can click on the link bro. Dunno what happened to spoiler
Will try to test it haha..
Ya will try to do another attempt
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On Eco and not on Sports , oh gosh !

Plus your car isn't fully charged , so you are not getting assistant from electric motor at all

You should do one without on Eco and on Sports as well

Turn off eco , make sure there is at least 4 bars in the battery , set it to S



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post Sep 5 2017, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Sep 5 2017, 10:49 PM)
Haha will do second attempt... hard to get it fully charge though...
Okay will do another one soon.
Any hybrid driver here? Do your car sounds very loud when on low speed and on engine? And how's the the transmission from engine to battery and from battery to engine, is transmission smooth or there is some jerking
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Put it to park and let the car charge , wait till 4 bars , put it to S turn off eco and test . The car will charge itself when it is on P and with brakes on


I drive Jazz hybrid , so same drivetrain. It does not sound very loud on engine and low speed. It's decent. Now here is the DCT comes in play , i think dan mentioned it in/ In the jazz thread

On DCT , the jerking is very common. Any DCT , especially on stop and go traffic. If you have low battery , it is good as no support from EV. So the car would jerk when you are in stop and go traffic

How to avoid that , just let the car move by irself , feather the accelerator (just lift off and go)

Also turn off eco , it would reduce the tranmission lag. Remember when battery is not charge , the electric motor cant engage the gear , so when it can't and the engine tries to do it , it would have a lag
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post Sep 6 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Sep 6 2017, 06:52 PM)
Actually what is the function of ECO mode?

Din feel any different when using it?

Do you normally turn it on or off?
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Eco mode cuts trottle response , so when you even floor it it's just super slow to pick up and if you hit slightly harder it gets that you want to go faster

Also it cuts down a/c power , so even if you put at 25C , it just feels warm.

Now it makes the car shifts faster and on Hybrid cars , it tends to favor EV , so even if you press gently , it prefers EV. Now that's the good thing and bad. Good , you get more EV , but bad thing it makes you to use your battery much more

Here comes the tricky part , on stop-go traffic (this is on hybrid) , when there is no charge on the battery , it tries to upshift faster , which causes the infamous DCT lag. So if you have turned it off , it does reduce the DCT lag



http://www.mattcastruccihonda.com/blog/wha...-eco-button-do/

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