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Glyyde
post Mar 25 2008, 01:36 AM

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MRCP has nothing to do with training in UK.... that is a completely different thing really....
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post Mar 25 2008, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Mar 25 2008, 01:32 AM)
But i heard now non EU students cannot take up training post in UK. So is it still possible to obtain MRCP for non EU graduate?
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i tink some royal colleges will conduct MRCP exams outside UK, and most of it in HK/Spore, so as long as u register for the exam, u'll sit for it. it's not a specialty traning post/residency, and neither it will lead u to become a specialist. but i heard it makes u more qualified for residency

btw, i'm not really sure
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post Mar 25 2008, 08:26 AM

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the exams have now been de-coupled from cst.......again........as it had always been in the past......for a while, during coupling, you can only sit for the exams if you are in an official numbered job......


Added on March 25, 2008, 8:29 am
QUOTE(Glyyde @ Mar 25 2008, 01:23 AM)
not at all.... I went there bcos I can't get into form 1.... need to do remove (neva know how to spell that) back in those days... so I chose independent school.... haahaa
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it is still your choice........everybody can go to national schools, just that if you are from srjk, you need to have an extra year in transition.........no matter if you got straight a's in upsr......

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post Mar 25 2008, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ Mar 25 2008, 02:18 AM)
It depends. But pirate book is only very few. Hmm...sounds like u been there before
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oh WHAT? ah crap. I can get in trouble here for using pirated books. I'll be having a look anyhoos. Thanks heaps smile.gif


Added on March 25, 2008, 10:21 am
QUOTE(hyperx @ Mar 25 2008, 02:31 AM)
i want to ask ppl studying @ overseas.. do the medical exams in ur wherever country u are standardize for each uni?

the questions may not be the same, but the standard are equal.. there is such thing?
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Yup they're pretty similar. The curriculum itself is almost the same, since unis that just opened a medical faculty essentially 'buy' the curriculum off other more established unis. Also I've got friends doing their clinical rotations with students from other unis and they're pretty much on par with each other.

(I'm in Queensland, Australia)

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post Mar 25 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(lagrima @ Mar 25 2008, 10:16 AM)
oh WHAT? ah crap. I can get in trouble here for using pirated books. I'll be having a look anyhoos. Thanks heaps smile.gif


Added on March 25, 2008, 10:21 am

Yup they're pretty similar. The curriculum itself is almost the same, since unis that just opened a medical faculty essentially 'buy' the curriculum off other more established unis. Also I've got friends doing their clinical rotations with students from other unis and they're pretty much on par with each other.

(I'm in Queensland, Australia)
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it's not pirated books there. Most of the books were printed in India with limited copyright, thus it can't be sold in most advanced countries like US/Canada, UK/Europe, Aus, Japan.


Added on March 25, 2008, 10:34 amu were from IMU? somemore wif a undergrad degree ady izzit? Queensland is postgrad entry right.

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hey guys just asking, can i enter the medical programme at imu if i do asasi programs at local iptas such as um, uiam and uitm? cuz i just called and they said they do accept. just wanna double check
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QUOTE(sanesaint @ Mar 25 2008, 11:00 AM)
hey guys just asking, can i enter the medical programme at imu if i do asasi programs at local iptas such as um, uiam and uitm? cuz i just called and they said they do accept. just wanna double check
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I'm not quite sure about this since I have no idea what asasi courses are, but did you call IMU or your local IPTS? If you called IMU, and they said yes, then it should be yes.
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yeah i did call imu and they did say yes cuz the local asasi programmes are considered matriculation for them and the min. requirement is 85%. so yeah i just wanted ot double check. better safe than sorry i always say
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i doubt anyone of us tried this b4. Hey, IMU and UM/Uitm asasi r completely from diff world. Most IMU students came from SAM, Alevels, UEC, and mabbe a few STPM.

Dun u feel ashamed not being able to get into UM/Uitm medicine after completing their asasi, when some can get in thro STPM (which is a tougher route)?
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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:31 PM)


Added on March 25, 2008, 10:34 amu were from IMU? somemore wif a undergrad degree ady izzit? Queensland is postgrad entry right.
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Nah I'm not from IMU. I'm postgrad (did a previous science related honours degree here), but I'm enrolled in an undergrad med degree.
Queensland has both undergrad and postgrad entry, depending on the uni.
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QUOTE(lagrima @ Mar 25 2008, 05:12 PM)
Nah I'm not from IMU. I'm postgrad (did a previous science related honours degree here), but I'm enrolled in an undergrad med degree.
Queensland has both undergrad and postgrad entry, depending on the uni.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 25 2008, 11:57 PM)
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post Mar 26 2008, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Mar 25 2008, 01:39 AM)
i tink some royal colleges will conduct MRCP exams outside UK, and most of it in HK/Spore, so as long as u register for the exam, u'll sit for it. it's not a specialty traning post/residency, and neither it will lead u to become a specialist. but i heard it makes u more qualified for residency

btw, i'm not really sure
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MRCP is conducted all over the world. Malaysia has sitings for each of the 3 parts once a year respectively. So does Singapore. It is still a very popular exam in Malaysia, especially among the non-Malay doctors. It is equivalent to MMED(UKM/UM/UPM/USM/UIA/or whatever public universities that offer it), MMED(Singapore....essentially the same exam), ABIM in regards to being a physician in Malaysia. For MMED(Malaysia), the gazettement period is 6 months, the rest 18 months. MMED(Mal) is actually a good training programme...4 years, but not recognised anywhere else in the world. The rest are.


ASFAIK, all local MBBS programme are only recognised in Malaysia, except for MBBS from UM and UKM which was recently recognised by Singapore too. Singapore recognises the above 2 universities for one reason only......coz they want to recruit them. Singapore is very short of medical doctors, so they are very actively recruiting fresh graduates from the above 2 universities for starting from housemanship. The pay is way way better, not mentioning the training. So for UM and UKM medical students, you have a very good option for you all once you graduate.....and it is based on meritocracy, no preference at all for even local Singaporeans!
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Mar 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
MRCP is conducted all over the world. Malaysia has sitings for each of the 3 parts once a year respectively. So does Singapore. It is still a very popular exam in Malaysia, especially among the non-Malay doctors. It is equivalent to MMED(UKM/UM/UPM/USM/UIA/or whatever public universities that offer it), MMED(Singapore....essentially the same exam), ABIM in regards to being a physician in Malaysia. For MMED(Malaysia), the gazettement period is 6 months, the rest 18 months. MMED(Mal) is actually a good training programme...4 years, but not recognised anywhere else in the world. The rest are.
ASFAIK, all local MBBS programme are only recognised in Malaysia, except for MBBS from UM and UKM which was recently recognised by Singapore too. Singapore recognises the above 2 universities for one reason only......coz they want to recruit them. Singapore is very short of medical doctors, so they are very actively recruiting fresh graduates from the above 2 universities for starting from housemanship. The pay is way way better, not mentioning the training. So for UM and UKM medical students, you have a very good option for you all once you graduate.....and it is based on meritocracy, no preference at all for even local Singaporeans!
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it is an open exam.....ie anyone with the required period of rotational postings, can sit, so no '3rd party gatekeeping' people to block you.......and it is completely based on merit......

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Mar 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
MRCP is conducted all over the world. Malaysia has sitings for each of the 3 parts once a year respectively. So does Singapore. It is still a very popular exam in Malaysia, especially among the non-Malay doctors. It is equivalent to MMED(UKM/UM/UPM/USM/UIA/or whatever public universities that offer it), MMED(Singapore....essentially the same exam), ABIM in regards to being a physician in Malaysia. For MMED(Malaysia), the gazettement period is 6 months, the rest 18 months. MMED(Mal) is actually a good training programme...4 years, but not recognised anywhere else in the world. The rest are.
ASFAIK, all local MBBS programme are only recognised in Malaysia, except for MBBS from UM and UKM which was recently recognised by Singapore too. Singapore recognises the above 2 universities for one reason only......coz they want to recruit them. Singapore is very short of medical doctors, so they are very actively recruiting fresh graduates from the above 2 universities for starting from housemanship. The pay is way way better, not mentioning the training. So for UM and UKM medical students, you have a very good option for you all once you graduate.....and it is based on meritocracy, no preference at all for even local Singaporeans!
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Thx for the explanation. btw, can't really understand wif MMed in Msia, u r considered as a specialist right, but not wif MRCP. izzit true?

and for the current British system, MRCP will lead u to FRCP, which is a specialist qualification right, so wat is the equivalent of MMed (Mal)? Do they haf to sit for FRCP as well?

and wat do u mean "the rest"?

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frcp is honorary.......the 'speciailst' qualification is mrcp.....but that is considered an 'entrance' qualification' only there......they have something called cst......certificate of specialist training.......at the end of your medical speciality training......the pathway for surgical training if different.......

mrcp's after a period of time, and upon recommendations by senior fellows, will be award frcp........no exams........

mrcp+18 mths=mmed+6 mths........gazettement as specialist.......equal status......

'rest' means any other pathway other than mmed.......ie, non-msian pathway.......
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orh, thx for the reply, got it
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Just found out this thread haha after wandering so long here
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Same here. I'm sem 3 IMU. haha. Just when to kamal and got some stuff..

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