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MBBS siang
post Feb 13 2009, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Feb 13 2009, 09:59 AM)
How much is the tuition fees?
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RM277000


Added on February 13, 2009, 9:53 am
QUOTE(Jt2020 @ Feb 13 2009, 09:48 AM)
Unikl-RCMP MBBS - I am in the first batch, now second year, they are still improving in their programme. But overall it's ok. For the admission around 75 to 80% are malays as most of them are taking mara scholarship/loan.
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Im STPM leaver.Will that very hard to enter?

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post Feb 13 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Feb 13 2009, 11:40 AM)
Dude, dun be so mean lar.  sweat.gif

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BTW, what happened to twinning with UM? I thought it was quite a successful arrangement, as a back door for the Malays to enter UM?
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The MBBS programme of RCMP(unikl) is still cooperate with UM Oo?
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post Feb 13 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 13 2009, 12:29 PM)
dunno, as a future user of healthcare, i have all the rights to be concerned about these young doctors who will be doing dangerous things to me.........no?
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No need to worry,if you go to developed country(you love the much) in future.No one will do any dangerous things to you,if you choose to migrate from malaysia(3rd world country).Don't you think so?


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post Feb 13 2009, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 13 2009, 01:17 PM)
Not everyone is like you MBBS siang, and the millions of ethnic Chinese, who are the first to jump the boat at the first hint of it sinking. Some people may think the whole "You tak suka, you keluar" mentality is normal, but it is not.

It is fine if you want to play Russian roulette with health care. But I don't. Yet I will be treated by the same health care system as you promote: reckless production of doctors just because you want to be a doctor when you are not cut out for one.

And don't think for one second that it is safe in what you call "developed country". Check out Jayant Patel. The only difference is, at least there is a attempt to resolve the problem, while in Malaysia you all just hide under the banner of passion and "I will do my best".
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If you don't have the ability to change this condition,so the best solution is to run away from here.But not keep on reminding and reminding "malaysia is bad","lousy health care" and keep on look down on who graduate from non-reputable uni.That is unfair to some! Not mean a good doctor must graduate from famous medical school but those graduate from 3rd world country like russia,indonesia should be an incompetent doctor or substandard medical student.If you are rich better leave the 3rd world country,if you are not confident in health care of 3rd world country.If you are not and need a "real doctor",you deserve the right to choose ,but not keep on look down on others who are graduate from non-reputable uni but maybe competent.As a patient they know which doctor is suit to them but not only depend on academic background.Sorry,this is what I think!

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post Feb 13 2009, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Critical @ Feb 13 2009, 04:09 PM)
Russia is communist country right? I thought communist country consider as 2nd world country, where as the democratic capitalism one consider as first world country, third world country like Malaysia is the remaining three-quarters of the world's population, states not aligned with either bloc were regarded as the "Third World."

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/thir...d_countries.htm
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No! russia is not communist country but former soviet union is a communist country!So, russia is a 2nd world lo!3rd world are normally refer to developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America. I know this but not everyone know,so use the 3rd world to describe the developing countries everyone will know what Im talking about lo!

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post Feb 13 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 13 2009, 05:41 PM)
You probably don';t think, seeing you have still not understood the basics of paragraphing.

Ever considered that your "lousy health care" is due to the lax admission policies for local medical schools and foreign graduates? So let me get this straight: you, unable to get into and afford into a reputable medical school with some standard, decide to perpetuate the problem by thinking of entering "3rd world country like russia,indonesia", with lax admission policies, just so you can fulfill your (and presumably your parents) dreams of being a doctor.

And of course, you still hide under the banner of "not all doctors from 3rd world medical schools  are Dr Death". "Choose a doctor"? What do you think this is: a supermarket? Please, get rid of your sifu mentality.

"A nation who wants to move forward needs a well educated workforce, not just a brilliant few". LKY

If I were to paraphrase, A nation who wants to have a competent health care system needs a network of well educated medical specialists, not just a brilliant few. In many parts of the world, you don't need to choose doctors. In certain circumstances you can't choose doctors.
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erm...I agree what you say but keep on arguing about this issue is actually no use and nothing will be change!Of course,medical field and health care is not a super market! What we can do is just think twice before seek a doctor! Thats all.I will stop here and wait to see will that any changes in future!
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post Feb 15 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(ShaneNg @ Feb 15 2009, 10:03 AM)
I've been told that none of the medical schools in Malaysia has high qualities... I don't know if that includes UM.

And hey, Can I know roughly the salary for Houseman? It's important for me because I need to make sure that I can financially support My sister.

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My friend told me is about 4000++ but not sure la.







Hello,hypermax! The quality of MMMC is ok or not?Is the MBBS of MMMC a twinning programme? If yes,the living expenses in India will very high or not(including accommodation and food)?Approximately is how much the fee monthly?Is that required to attend an interview for admission?Any financial aid available?Can I loan from PTPTN?

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post Feb 16 2009, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 16 2009, 07:01 PM)
Woo, that a sign of desperation. Back in 70's, doctor got wage lower than teacher. RM1000 a month.

My dad even got to take unwanted chairs,table and refrigerator from hospital cause we can't afford rent and food.
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Woo! unbelievable!such a pity state!haiz....

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 16 2009, 08:24 PM)
Yep, dad always said that so we could be more appreciate the current economy and take advantage of it.

He work in Terengganu and then to Johor in that days. He even sold his Proton Saga because my brother and sister always wanted an ice cream which cost 50 cent and we can't even afford it.( seroiusly not lying)By selling it, we save on monthly installment by buying a second-hand car.

Now life much better...
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Hey! Its ok! Everything are water under the bridge! One will grow up and more appreciate to the happiness,if come from a difficult and terrible environment !

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post Feb 17 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Feb 17 2009, 12:17 PM)
Standard is ok lar, like most other established medical schools in Msia. Not top notch but enough to train a competent doctor (very much dependable on the students' attitude also). It was a worthwhile college back then, but now with sky high tuition fee (330K for 5 years, compared to 265K last time), i dun think it's worth while anymore. Better apply for AIMST, it's much cheaper and i heard the teaching quality is quite good too.
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Thank you!I have received the offer letter for foundation in science from AIMST,because it is too competitive, so, maybe need to do the foundation first.I think this is a more secure way if I failed to enter the IPTA or MBBS of AIMST , even though that is no guaranteed for admission.Actually,I think not only twice but more then hundred of time,finally make the decision to choose the way toward AIMST(cheaper and with the not bad quality),as limeuu say only malaysian dare to try untested uni.I don't want to take the risk to become a "killer"....haha! I want to be a competent doctor,though need to do Pre-u again, but I believe I can make it and it is worth.I get scored by my dad:Stupid and silly! cry.gif But never mind! One day he will know Im doing the right things now,if I able to save the life. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 17 2009, 02:44 PM)
why the need for foundation?
you could directly study medicine abroad say.... in Indonesian top universities, eg; University Gadjah Mada / University of Indonesia / University of Padjadjaran ~

I assume you can speak Malay? its near to Malaysia and recognized by MMC. Cost effective also~

Here is a link: http://www.nugrahan.com.my/

Think about it, those universities I mentioned are government universities, they have established Medical faculty, the man power, dedicated university professors/lecturers, hospitals, facilities, lab, etc to conduct a medical course~

or perhaps you are not considering to go abroad?


Added on February 17, 2009, 2:00 pm

I will have to agree with your dad.

Its a waste to time to do a foundation when you already have STPM cert. (provided that you have the necessary grades to enter MD/MBBS or course)
STPM cert is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more "powerful" than ANY foundation program certs available in Malaysia.

AIMST is not the only private medical university in Malaysia you know.... there are ten of them, remember? click below to revise:



10 PRIVATE MEDICAL UNIVERSITIES IN MALAYSIA

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But,abroad is quite difficult to get the loan is it?JPA needed to do the medicine there first,if the jpa dont approve the application i will die there.Is there any education loan available?Like ptptn can get it before go there?
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Feb 17 2009, 05:14 PM)
While there are 10 IPTS offering MBBS/MD course, it's better to join a well established medical school, like the 5 IPTS currently recognized by MMC. Monash Malaysia is also a good option since it's recognized by AMC.
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But now only 4 are officially recognized and list in second schedule of MMC.Monash malaysia do not accept MUET and exaggerately expensive.RM420000.Anyway, thanks all of your suggestion and thanks to the cybersetan.

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 18 2009, 09:33 AM)
Huh? Not accept MUET is just funny since this is Malaysia which what M in MUET stand for. A new college with high expectation not going to work well especially in this time of financial uncertainty.
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As I know,the monash malaysia only accept IELTS or TOEFL ,MUET not at all but Nottingham malaysia do take MUET into consideration.Of course, this is malaysia but they do tighten their entry requirement just like in their country including language requirement.The international english grading like TOEFL and IELTS are well known and reputable English test and it is more reliable if compared to MUET,I think in the foreign country MUET are totally unknown english grading system.As limeuu say "entry requirement" is also a measurement to see whether the quality of school is good or not.So,the foreign uni do the things that they do in their own country ,it is reasonable and can be accepted.At least, this is also a method to make sure the student they enrolled should be no problem in english. I do not say MUET is no standard because I took MUET too,but IELTS or TOEFL is more famous and every corner of the world should know what is it.

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 18 2009, 04:23 PM)
OK that mean I have to take TOEFL or IELTS now. That's really troublesome since I wanted to go to IMU. So where do I take this test? I think I wasted my time doing MUET when I should be dong something else if this is the step taken by most IPTS.
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The Imu accept MUET-Band 4 is enough.If you opting for the Partner University option -both MUET band4,IELTS band score of 7.0 or above prior to entering the matching exercise. 2010 onwards - At least an overall band score of 7.0 or better.Everywhere.You can try the language center near to your living area,they will assist you about the registration of test.That is what I know.

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post Feb 19 2009, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 19 2009, 01:58 AM)
Thank , I be sure to take that test. I already got high Band 5. SO I don't think getting another test would be too difficult. Is the test harder than Muet?
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Of course a bit harder! I think that should be no problem to you ,since you had got a high band 5 for your MUET. All the best! Im sure you can make it!

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post Feb 19 2009, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 19 2009, 09:11 AM)
being complete honest here, i wonder, based on the level of english used in this forum, and the mistakes so frequently committed in simple postings, how one can get a 'high band 5' in muet?............ blink.gif
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Just like sms. This neither a test nor exam,so simply type as long as others can understand is enough already isn't it? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(usesoap @ Feb 19 2009, 08:59 AM)
go manipal lah
no need muet or iels...
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From my friend:IMU PMS programme(medicine) providing a higher standard medical education as compared to other private medical school.To me,it is too expensive,if not it will be my first choice if I failed to enter IPTA.So,Ibrahimovic make the right choice.


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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 19 2009, 09:52 AM)
no........

sms language is NOT acceptable in a forum like this........you have a qwerty keyboard for a good reason........

and if you continue to use bad english, it WILL become permanent........

i advise all to consciously use good english all the time...... nod.gif
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Trying hard to use it correctly.Thanks for your correction! notworthy.gif Sorry ,what is qwerty?

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post Feb 19 2009, 09:14 AM

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I know already.Thanks.That is the arrangement of keyboard.


Added on February 19, 2009, 9:15 amHaha!!! forgive my "blur blur".Thanks! rclxms.gif

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post Feb 19 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 19 2009, 10:17 AM)
do you know why the keyboard is arranged this way?........not in alphabetical order?
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No.I want to know if you are willing to tell me.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 19 2009, 12:55 PM)
you could easily google or wiki the answer, but you choose to be spoonfed..........not a good sign.........

when they first invented the typewriter, they calculated the letters most used in the commonly used words, and place them in the middle, for ease of typing, and the less used letters further out.......
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Oh I see. shocking.gif I will change this attitude,thanks for reminding. notworthy.gif I curious how they know which letter is most used. SO, this time I will find out myself flex.gif but not being "spoonfed" icon_idea.gif .haha....thanks! rclxm9.gif

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