there are very good medical-legal reasons why teaching hospitals are always public funded hospitals.........and why people going to private hospitals will NOT want med students to experiment on them.....

training hospitals will generally be public funded, and a condition of admission for treatment is the understanding that they cannot determine who treats them, and they can and will be used in teaching of students, and in return they receive heavily subsidised care.......this is the case in both the university hospital, and the moh hospital settings........

on the other hand, if one elects to pay fully for his treatment, he will want to choose his doctors (obviously someone senior and whom one trusts), want to have absolute privacy, and do NOT want any medical students at all......

therefore, it is NOT possible, in the well defined dichotomous way public and private healthcare is delivered in msia, for private hospitals in it's present form to be teaching hospitals.......

even in systems where the public/private divide is blurred, a patient who opted for the private category in the same hospital can choose not to entertain medical students.......

seriously, you all talk about deliveries, which is the HIGHEST MEDICO_LEGAL RISK of all medical disciplines, would you want your/your wife/your sister etc to be experimented upon by students??

british system: generalist specialist first before sub-specialisation.....

american (and oz): directly into a sub-specialisation.....

there are pros and cons in both system.....

mmed is the only pathway left for msian surgical training......the mrcs (which replaced the old 'frcs in general') is not recognised by msia........and the subspeciality frcs requires recognised training jobs, which most msians grads do not/cannot have.......

spore is a good option for surgical training, but many cannot work there, degree not recognised........

Hello guys, was wondering how many A's you guys score in SPM to qualify to pursuit doctor carrier ? I was thinking of doing form 6 biology class.

The 5/6 yrs bond you mentioned is for postgrad or undergrad?

the bond for foreign medical students in NUS is 6 years instead of 5 yrs. Honestly it doesn't really matter cos u can take up postgrad during this time.

I'm not sure abt Malaysia system, but i heard u can only take up postgrad after 5 yrs, with non malays having to wait longer. by the time u get a postgrad, u counterparts in spore r already qualified as consultants. i think this is a very impt consideration to be taken .