QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Dec 31 2016, 12:30 PM)
As you are just starting out, I wouldn't recommend getting prime lens as you'll find many constraints with it. Get a good general purpose lens.
(E.g. for Full Frame - 24-70mm F4 or 24-105 F4, for Crop - 15-85mm or 18-135mm)
With your budget I don't think you'll be able to get the 80D with lens, probably 70D or Nikon's counterpart with the lens 2nd hand. Unless you stretch your budget to 5k-ish.
QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2016, 12:41 PM)
LOL when people say Entry level DSLR can't explore much when in reality most people in this world don't even push 25% of a 10 year old Digital SLR like say the EOS 350D.
Anyway buy what you can afford.
Full frame sensor? LOL. Seriously many of the best images in this world aren't even taken with full frame sensors.
It's even worse when people say 50mm is a good start.
Seriously, all wrong man, all wrong. There's no rule that you need to go for full frame or full frame is best because it isen't.
The best sensor in the market now happens to be an ASP-C sensor.
As for lens, NO - DO NOT go 50mm. You need to identify what you wish to shoot first.
Better you go entry level and spend on accessories that you need rather than going to semi-pro or what not and stuck with just a limited gears.
Since you're starting out as a hobby, just get an entry level with 18-55 lens or whatever kit it comes with and explore first.
Take it from me - back in 2010 I got my professional qualification by using images taken with entry level camera.
https://www.goldfries.com/photography/my-jo...ciation-mpa-uk/Yes, I was using EOS 350D / 500D / 550D - and yes, those are cameras more than half a decade old by now and I was able to create professional grade images that pass the critique of 5 renown industry professionals.
Entry level cameras today are WAY better than semi-pro camers back then (EOS 40D / 50D) and do you think entry level cameras are limited?
If don't believe also can check out my profile
https://www.dreamstime.com/goldfries_portfolio_pg1https://www.shutterstock.com/g/goldfriesAll taken with APS-C sensor camera, some taken by phones (even smaller than APS-C sensor).
None of the images are taken with full-frame sensor because I only have full frame camera around 2014 and haven't submitted any pics to stock photo.
Those images you see in that 2 links were taken with Canon EOS 350D / 500D / 550D / 60D, with some phone models.
And after reading all this - do you still want to worry about Entry level cameras?
QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2016, 12:50 PM)
^ the above.
70D / 80D are excellent models, I won't go 7D2 though, unless you want super duper AF + weather seal and what not.
I sold off my 60D for about RM 1.5k. Exchange rate not good these days so if you want to cut cost, can source for used mint condition 60D / 70D. They'll be great.
As for Nikon side, there's the D7200 but it doesn't have the flip LCD as that on 60D / 70D / 80D.
In the end which brand you go for is entirely up to you, best you go to shops and feel those camera body in your hand and try out their interface see what you like.
I was on Canon, now on Nikon. I also used Sony for a little bit, and scattered experience for Fuji, Sigma and whatever else - buy what you feel comfortable with.
As of now DO NOT aim for any prime lenses yet because you don't seem to know what you like to shoot so go with 18-55. Explore, later see you want to go wide, or to tele, or go macro.
For people like me, 70-200 is rarely used so that's why I sold of my Canon 70-200 F4L as it's under-utilized and even on Nikon now I haven't go any 70-200 because I don't use that range.
For my work it's all ultra wide (Sigma 12-24 II), standard range (Nikon 24-120) and prime lenses for product shoots (Tamron 90mm macro, Nikon 40mm DX Micro for video as it works like 60mm). Know what you need / want, buy accordingly - don't buy because people tell you XXmm is good and all.
I like 50mm doesn't mean it works for you. You like 100mm doesn't mean it works for me.
QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 31 2016, 01:02 PM)
Get yourself a entry level DSLR first. To be honest any camera will be capable enough as long as it has decent M, Av/A, Tv/S modes that allows your inputs for the controls.
Agreed that you should not prioritize on getting a prime lens first. High chance is that you will be frustrated that you can't zoom ( 99% of my friends who handled my camera with a prime lens couldn't understand why they cant zoom ). Not to mention the frequent needs to change lenses will be extremely troublesome for someone new.
Wow, so much to digest! Thanks for the insights and explanation. Will update soon on which camera I will buy. Thanks! Really appreciate it guys!