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post Feb 21 2007, 02:34 AM, updated 19y ago

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Ok, the question is not whether I should wait for Leopard or not. I know I should...I won't splash RM8k on a Macbook Pro, and having to splash another RM500 for Leopard...That's IF my Macbook can support Leopard. Although the CNY promotion at Machines in MidValley is so irresistable...

I'm an architectural student, doing Part 2 now (there's Part 3!!!!! ARGH!!!). Thing is, I use Acrobat, Photoshop, 3dsmax, AutoCAD and a plethora of other graphics softwares. I play games too sometimes; Halflife 2, Medieval 2, Civilization 4, etc. Was a hardcore gamer, but no more. So basically, very graphics intensive...and all those softwares are made specially for Windows. Oh yeah, I use MSOffice too, but that's out of the issue.

I am currently satisfied with my desktop, but I need a laptop since I move around a lot...and I like mobility. Compatibility is not an issue here since I've worked with people using Macs before but networking is hell. File transfers using pendrive is ok, but networking between OS X and WinXP makes our files go "Mighty-Morphin-Power-Rangers" sometimes...meaning they morphed while being transfered.

Why convert to Mac? I'm not trying to look cool or elite. Neither Vista or Mac are going to make you look that...if you think they make you look cool or elite, you should really get a life. I'm getting the Mac because there are so many features (particularly in Leopard) that excites me. It's like comparing iPhone and other phones...(I'm going to get iPhone too) I want to try it out, and judging from my friends that used OS X, it seems more suitable for my computing lifestyle. Leaving hardcore gaming is key (if i'm still a hardcore gamer, I wouldn't imagine getting a Mac). Life is short. I don't want to grow up and tell my kids, "I don't know what a Mac is...never used it." Imagine them laughing at me...you got to try everything that you can.

So, the question for all those Mac Gurus out there is, "Is Macbook Pro suitable for my usage?"

This post has been edited by clayclws: Feb 21 2007, 04:19 PM
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post Feb 21 2007, 02:40 AM

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depend of what u wanna do..
but from what u said..u want a mac book and wanna run 3Dmax,autocad amd photoshop..photoshop would be fine..but for 3dmax, autocad..and other graphics and enginering software..i suggest u better used the new G5 as it a powerfull tools nowadays..
mac also..doesnt support many games..
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Feb 21 2007, 02:34 AM)
Ok, the question is not whether I should wait for Leopard or not. I know I should...I won't splash RM8k on a Macbook Pro, and having to splash another RM500 for Leopard...That's IF my Macbook can support Leopard. Although the CNY promotion at Machines in MidValley is so irresistable...

I'm an architectural student, doing Part 2 now (there's Part 3!!!!! ARGH!!!). Thing is, I use Acrobat, Photoshop, 3dsmax, AutoCAD and a plethora of other graphics softwares. I play games too sometimes; Halflife 2, Medieval 2, Civilization 4, etc. Was a hardcore gamer, but no more. So basically, very graphics intensive...and all those softwares are made specially for Windows. Oh yeah, I use MSOffice too, but that's out of the issue.

I am currently satisfied with my desktop, but I need a laptop since I move around a lot...and I like mobility. Compatibility is not an issue here since I've worked with people using Macs before but networking is hell. File transfers using pendrive is ok, but networking between OS X and WinXP makes our files go "Mighty-Morphin-Power-Rangers" sometimes...meaning they morphed while being transfered.

Why convert to Mac? I'm not trying to look cool or elite. Neither Vista or Mac are going to make you look that...if you think they make you look cool or elite, you should really get a life. I'm getting the Mac because there are so many features (particularly in Leopard) that excites me. It's like comparing iPhone and other phones...(I'm going to get iPhone too) I want to try it out, and judging from my friends that used OS X, it seems more suitable for my computing lifestyle. Leaving hardcore gaming is key (if i'm still a hardcore gamer, I wouldn't imagine getting a Mac). Life is short. I don't want to grow up and tell my kids, "I don't know what a Mac is...never used it." Imagine them laughing at me...you got to try everything that you can.

So, the question for all those Mac Gurus out there is, "Is Macbook Pro suitable for my usage?"
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post Feb 21 2007, 02:51 AM

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I've seen my friends run them through some Windows compatible software. Not sure what it is called...it's not Boot Camp. But basically, that program runs whatever that are not supported by Mac...games, softwares and such. I want to know the performance hit that I'll be experiencing.

I'm hoping there's Guru(s) out there that use(s) the same programs as I do, and if you don't mind, please share the experience...I need to know to make the right choice smile.gif Thanks!
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post Feb 21 2007, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Feb 21 2007, 02:34 AM)
Compatibility is not an issue here since I've worked with people using Macs before but networking is hell. File transfers using pendrive is ok, but networking between OS X and WinXP makes our files go "Mighty-Morphin-Power-Rangers" sometimes...meaning they morphed while being transfered.


care to explain?

my macbook has been on my network since day one and i've not come by documents being morphed in anyway. my macbook could access any shared folders with no problem. transfers are as easy as drag-n-drop.

networking? probably the easiest. WiFi just connects as long as i have the correct WPA key. smile.gif so what kind of network problem do your friends face?

and the list of softwares you mentioned - are you able to obtain a copy that would work with Mac? if you can then i see no problem getting a macbook.
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Softwares working with Macbook...that's what I'm trying to find out. My friends used some other software to simulate/emulate Windows environment and run those softwares. I want to know bout the performance hit...So why can't I ask my friends? Well, those friends are from USC, Los Angeles. They came for a joint studio program during their summer. And their gone now, with very little means of contact.

I don't know bout those networking. I connected my PC to their Mac (several of them) and sometimes, the files just turned into other types of files (renamed, half transfered, etc.). No idea why. We connect through my faculty's network. Oh, btw, why are there weird files appearing on the pendrive/thumbdrive when you connect them to a Mac and then back to PC?

What programs do you usually run on Macbook? No one run any graphic programs other then those bundled with iLife and Photoshop?
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Feb 21 2007, 04:24 AM)
Softwares working with Macbook...that's what I'm trying to find out. My friends used some other software to simulate/emulate Windows environment and run those softwares. I want to know bout the performance hit...So why can't I ask my friends? Well, those friends are from USC, Los Angeles. They came for a joint studio program during their summer. And their gone now, with very little means of contact.

I don't know bout those networking. I connected my PC to their Mac (several of them) and sometimes, the files just turned into other types of files (renamed, half transfered, etc.). No idea why. We connect through my faculty's network. Oh, btw, why are there weird files appearing on the pendrive/thumbdrive when you connect them to a Mac and then back to PC?

What programs do you usually run on Macbook? No one run any graphic programs other then those bundled with iLife and Photoshop?
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hey...
the software u were talking about must either be parallels desktop...crossover or the other one...if i m not mistaken virtualpc...

looking at the softwares u r using...they are kinda heavy to be run in virtualization mode....although it is possible...
the best bet is to run them in boot camp...or juz buy a windows pc...
btw...i forgot to mention...parallels doesnt support hardware 3d acceleration...there goes ur ambition to use some hign end 3d stuff using parallels...bout crossover i have no experience with it...but some said it supports 3d acceleration...
u shud research more on these softwares....=)

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I haven't had much networking issues between OSX and Win XP. In fact, file transfer rate is so much faster but that is very much 'hardware-capable' biggrin.gif

You won't find any issues with your Graphic (Adobe) softwares as there's a version for Mac and they're pretty 'solid' but for your 3D stuffs, well, I guess xandman's given you a little insight.

I wouldn't recommend a Mac to a gamer though rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Feb 21 2007, 04:24 AM)
What programs do you usually run on Macbook? No one run any graphic programs other then those bundled with iLife and Photoshop?


here are some stuff i use.......
1. MAMP (Apache / MySQL / PHP)
2. GIMP (graphic manipulation software)
3. SMULTRON (text editor)
4. FIREFOX (web browser)
5. FUGU (sftp client)

however the macbook is just a alternative / backup rig. my primary workhorse is still a Windows rig.

biggrin.gif i'm a designer / programmer btw.
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post Feb 21 2007, 10:33 AM

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i'm already used my MBP 2months plus ..and i found that it's cool

not lagging at all ..when i try to launch CS2 application ..my other apps running intact...So does Aperture and and Adobe Lightroom

nobody forced u to make decision for having Mac or not ....even i'm using xp on my company HP laptop ..i'm love to use Mac more than any brand
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 21 2007, 10:33 AM)
nobody forced u to make decision for having Mac or not ....even i'm using xp on my company HP laptop ..i'm love to use Mac more than any brand
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i agree to that.

i've used many laptops before, Acers, Dells, Compaqs, IBMs and of course, Apple.

and yes, my choice goes to Apple's offerings. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Feb 21 2007, 03:34 AM)
Why convert to Mac? I'm not trying to look cool or elite. Neither Vista or Mac are going to make you look that...if you think they make you look cool or elite, you should really get a life. I'm getting the Mac because there are so many features (particularly in Leopard) that excites me. It's like comparing iPhone and other phones...(I'm going to get iPhone too) I want to try it out, and judging from my friends that used OS X, it seems more suitable for my computing lifestyle. Leaving hardcore gaming is key (if i'm still a hardcore gamer, I wouldn't imagine getting a Mac). Life is short. I don't want to grow up and tell my kids, "I don't know what a Mac is...never used it." Imagine them laughing at me...you got to try everything that you can.

So, the question for all those Mac Gurus out there is, "Is Macbook Pro suitable for my usage?"
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If you want try sth which is new and curious to you, then go for mac. Btw, even laptop with gc, it still not as powerful as a desktop. If you want play high-end games, better don't think about running games in laptop. (maybe in medium graphics eventhough the gc is X1600 for an example) Remember, just buy what you need. I suggest you buy mac after Leopard comes out wink.gif

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post Feb 21 2007, 04:18 PM

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Alright...guess decision is to hold on till Leopard comes out and see if it still excites me. Oh, btw, machines replied my email. They said Leopard will come out in June...That's summer...

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