Thank you for the recommendations.
The most undervalued investment in 2017
The most undervalued investment in 2017
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Feb 24 2017, 01:48 PM
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Thank you for the recommendations.
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Jun 12 2017, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 11 2017, 09:59 PM) While reading and equip oneself with financial knowledge is important to achieve the elusive "financial freedom", it is more important to put that knowledge into practice. Thank you sir for your kind advice, the perspectives that you have shared is truly constructive.Honestly, how many of them actually put what they read into practice ? I can speculate that 90% will forget about the content the next day when their day job consumes all their attention. And during the weekends, all they want is a good rest or enjoy the time with the loved ones. To those 90%, reading those books is more about "entertainment" or at best, a way to console themselves they are "doing something about their future" Knowledge is nothing if they are not put into practice. So, If you are not : 1. born into a rich family 2. marrying someone rich 3. winning lottery then, you have yourself, and only yourself to depend on. If you really want to achieve "financial freedom", the first thing to do is not reading books, but "get yourself disciplined to put away some money for investment every month". The only "knowledge" you need is this : 1. Set aside an amount consistently every month. With strong discipline and will power 2. Invest in investment vehicles which the risk you are comfortable with 3. Use the return and re-invest together with the set monthly amount in #1 I have one live example. Long story short, my niece joined my company about 20 years ago. One day, she asked me what is good investment. I told her the above. She set aside RM2k every month without fail to invest. Today, her investment already touched RM1.5m. Her investment is part property and part share market. It is good reading financial books. But the more important thing is to set aside an amount and start investing. Start with FD if uncomfortable with other investment. Then slowly progress. Be patient and allow time to work on your side. To me, reading books and gaining knowledge is important. But discipline and will power is even more important (and much more difficult to practise) than investment knowledge. I myself as a beginner, I do have the discipline to set aside money for savings and investment, as of now, I am still learning the fundamentals and basics of investment, thus far, have not really created any investment portfolio yet, while my savings are increasing (although not very significant at this moment, confident that it will certainly grow as I am growing my career) every month. I am a very frugal and disciplined person, I track every spending and ensure that I spend only on necessities, and I believe in the notion that "only buy luxuries when we have build the assets to afford that". What advice would you have for me? As in, what are the avenues/channels that I should be focusing on learning as a beginner? Have a nice day sir. |
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Jun 13 2017, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 12 2017, 03:48 PM) Your attitude is already half way to financial success Good morning sir. Thank you for your kind encouragement. Keep it up and in 2 decades, you will see your fruits grow very big. At that time, you can pamper yourself and be less frugal and enjoy life I wouldn't say what I wrote here is "advice", but just my opinion only. Different people got different opinion For beginners, the usual options are : 1. FD (I am sure many are aware of this since young) 2. Amanah Saham. There are many variety. If you are a bumi, then close one eye put in ASB while searching for better return investment 3. Unit Trust 4. Share market 5. Property (when you have more capital) Don't look at those "scheme" which give you 20% return per month. They are scams. Also I am not a believer of insurance saving scheme either. I would rather put in FD and get similar return with better flexibility. With the exception that if a person is not disciplined, then insurance saving scheme may be a good choice for forced savings Reading books is sometimes very boring. And it is only 1 way traffic without interaction. I gain a lot of knowledge through interacting with members in forums (like this one). There are many sifus who are generous in sharing information. For 1-5 mentioned above, there are dedicated threads in LYN. If you mix around with the regulars there, I am sure you will benefit more than reading books The one important and obvious financial knowledge is simple maths. Ie. "% returns". I use FD as a benchmark. Let's say 3.5% as risk free return (although technically it is not risk free, but let's not go into it). Then use FD rate as benchmark to assess other investment viability. Eg. is Amanah Saham giving higher returns than FD ? Is the accessibility as flexible as FD ? What is the risk ? etc etc Then as you progress, you will go into unit trust, share market, properties....there are many options and varieties in each type, so try to learn the varieties. I always remind myself about risk and return --> High risk high return. Low risk low return. There is no free lunch in this world. Don't be a smart aleck and thought that you are the first one who found a gem. I don't believe anyone can out-smart the market Let's involve yourself more in the forums. Use google more often. Choose the investment vehicle you like best. In time to come, you will be a seasoned investment sifu Surely I will keep it up for long term to achieve the desired outcome, the fulfilment of the future that we envisioned 10, 20 years later is certainly more important than having instant gratification. I will certainly involve myself more in the forums, have been reading the threads in [Finance and Investment House] and [Property Talk] these days, and I have gained so much of Real World information, which I am grateful for, the information shared by the sifus are eye-opening. I do have a number of questions in mind that I wish you could enlighten me: 1. With the monthly-increasing savings (I religiously practice pay-yourself-first principle), what would be the best way to hedge against the decreasing values of money/inflation? As in, which are the best avenue to put the money into? 2. What should be the optimum split of investment portfolio? Understanding that there is no one-size-fits-all portfolio, however, what would be the optimum split that you would suggest? 3. Is it advisable to take loans for Property Investment, given that the monthly cash flow is sufficient to cover the installment? 4. Unit Trust investment – Get it through online platform (like Fund Supermart) or UT Agent is better? What kind of funds worth looking at? And thank you for your kind reminder on those “20% returns/month scheme”, that is something that I will stay away by all means. Have a nice and passionate day ahead sir. |
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Jun 13 2017, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 13 2017, 01:30 PM) You don't sound like a newbie in investment Hello sir,Anyway, here is my take/opinion, 1. If you are new, take your steps slowly. Don't rush, as only patient will get you there safely. So, just focus on low risk investment first. Beating inflation will come naturally when you are more confident in higher return investment 2. There is no so called "optimal" asset allocation, as it is individual risk appetite which dictate the choice of investment vehicle. For a new investor, I would suggest pick three asset class first. Tilt the weightage more towards low risk investment like FD, ASx and a small portion on blue chip stock/reits 3. If you are newbie, you shouldn't be looking at property first. Because first you need big downpayment. And secondly you may not be experienced enough to pick the right property. So I would suggest to stay away from property investment for a newbie. 4. Online better because of lower cost. I do not hold any UT since long time ago so those regulars in FSM are better person to ask your questions. cherroy I suggest to move this thread out from this section as it has got nothing to do with stock exchange. It is only the title is cheeky so TS thought this thread is entitled here Good afternoon, trust that you have had your lunch already? Seriously I don't sound like a newbie? In fact I am one, as in, still without any solid hands-on experience in investment, so far my knowledge is still limited to theoretical side. 1. Well noted on that, should not be way too gung-ho about this and shall take things at my own pace. 2. I reckon that for the start, I shall take on the lower risk investment vehicle first. 3. Well noted on that, shall keep increasing the amounts of my reserves for the downpayment for now and keep learning for the time being about property. 4. Shall now starting to learn about Online UT Investment. Thank you sir for your sharing of valuable opinion, I sincerely wish to learn more from you. |
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