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post Dec 27 2016, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2016, 08:02 PM)
Guys, I need a very basic explanation as to which day prices are used when doing the following:

1) Buying

2) Switching

3) Selling

So for example, I put in orders for buy/sell/switch last Friday night (23 Dec). Can you give me an overview as to which day prices will I be "charged" for my purchase, how the switching would work, and which day prices will I be given for a redemption?

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I can only answer you for question 1 and 3.

If you buy lets say tomorrow (Wednesday) before 3 pm, your NAV would be based on Wednesday's closing price. You'll get to know the Wednesday's closing price after 2 to 3 days.

If you happen to buy tomorrow (Wednesday) after 3 pm, your NAV would be based on Thursdays closing price.



The same happens when you're selling.

Cant answer you about switching as I've never switched any funds yet.

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post Dec 28 2016, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2016, 10:59 PM)
Kenanga and EI published the same day price in the evening wor. Unless I am missing something?

https://www.kenangainvestors.com.my/KIB/KIB...idual/Home.aspx

I guess that means I already know the EI Small Cap and Kenanga Growth price, but pending for the rest tomorrow evening? Also while M2U got it to me at the end of two business days, I don't know about CIMB_Cliks.

Ultimately I guess I am just getting excited about nothing...but I just want to see the prices of what I own. I'm sure some of you had the feeling when you got your first investment. I am sorry for spamming, but now I didn't make a new threads.
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I could totally relate to what you mean. Even i was a little puzzled when i wasn't able to know at what price was my NAV being transacted at.

Just post what ever questions that you have and the fellow former here would help out.

Even i posted a few questions here like 2 or 3 weeks ago and they answered my questions promptly icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 29 2016, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 28 2016, 11:44 PM)
Portfolio sharing

FundIRRROI
Kenanga Growth Fund4.14%9.85%
Aberdeen World Equity6.94%15.41%
CIMB Asia Pac7.12%15.61%
CIMB PRS Asia Pac6.65%8.52%
Manulife India4.01%6.84%
RHB asian total return13.71%24.20%
Libra Asnita----0.65%
Eastspring Small Cap---0.26%

Portfolio ROI 10.99%, IRR 5.85%. (IRR was 6% ++ in september)

86% equity fund, 14% bond fund.
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That's definitely a good portfolio!
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post Dec 29 2016, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 29 2016, 09:48 AM)
Avangelice would call this a failure, his target is 8% or above smile.gif
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Well Avangelice is an expert hence he would be demanding for nothing less than a 2 digit return.

Anyway, would be posting my portfolio for 2017 and would really appreciate everyones comment.
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QUOTE(PLOUFFLE @ Jan 2 2017, 06:53 PM)
public mutual fund really a scam?
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Well you can't say they are scam but their service charges are definitely higher than FSM and the performance of PM's funds doesn't seem to catch my eyes.
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post Jan 3 2017, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(thesnake @ Jan 3 2017, 09:59 PM)
Hi guys, i have been a silent reader in this thread and am interested to start investing in UT by myself via FSM. Before i begin, i just want to thank all of you who have been constantly contributing ideas, thoughts, and valuable opinion in this forum.

My situation;

1. I have about rm 60k FD maturing soon, will have another rm 100k from a property sale recently.


Well i don't know the total amount of assets that you have but if you only have this 160K as cash, I wouldn't recommend you to invest the whole sum at one go. Try allocating maybe 50k into UT's and the balance of it maybe into FD. The amount placed into your FD would be used to DCA your investments let it be monthly, quarterly etc


2. Plan to invest all of this amount into UT.

3. I considered myself a newbie, and im looking for a balanced and diversified portfolio as investor.


Once again, since you're a newbie in UT, pls read my top comment.


4. Im very busy working with high mobility (travelling to remote places for work), so I am not looking to switch funds left and right, prefer to hold funds once i have invested in at least >2 months at a time.

5. Aiming for a 7-8% annual returns.

So guys, with the above points, would like to know your portfolios for me to have a start investing in FSM.



Thanks guys!
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post Jan 3 2017, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 3 2017, 10:47 PM)
hmm.gif what is your rational for that?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 3 2017, 10:51 PM)
Eh I also don't think it's logical for a newbie to invest RM160k straight into UTs. Invest a partial amount, gain some experience, then invest the rest once you are more comfortable.

Or is that a wrong idea?
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Agreed with Contestchris's answer.

Well you are fully aware that although your portfolio is diversified, you still have a chance of achieving a negative return ?
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post Jan 3 2017, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 3 2017, 11:02 PM)
yes, for short term there is a possiblilty...but as forummer wodenus had pointed out earlier...in the long run.....funds make money....
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Strongly agree with wodenus, but the guy that posted here said he wants it within 2 months or something like that right ?
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post Jan 3 2017, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 3 2017, 11:06 PM)
not within 2 months....it is "at least >2 months at a time".
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My bet, didn't read that well.
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post Jan 4 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 4 2017, 01:45 PM)
yeah, because I am not master, main tembak tembak, when got news or offer in Fundsupermart, i tried.
during my first year lose until neg at year end...
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Would you mind sharing the list of 25 funds that you invested in ?


I'm only holding 3 funds at the moment
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post Jan 4 2017, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 4 2017, 10:28 PM)
why lee sock yee is so attractive?lol
past half a year both kgf and eastspring small cap is not very good performance..

if trump effect happen, will malaysia market drop further?
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Anything is possible. I'm just going to stay away from investing in a fund that solely invest in the local market for at least the 1st quarter to see what happens.




On the other hand, is there any funds in Malaysia that only invest in Blue Chip stocks ?

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post Jan 6 2017, 09:50 PM

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Planning to split my money evenly between Cimb's Global Titans Fund and Affin Hwangs Japan Growth Fund tomorrow to take advantage of the 0.5% sales charge.


Any Sifu's here going for the seminar tomorrow ? Pls keep us updated!
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post Jan 6 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 6 2017, 10:00 PM)
You got the other funds or not? Like Greater China or APAC Dynamic Income?

So lucky you have money to spare, I am pokai now. Imagine if I waited for 0.5% rather than paying 2.5% at CIMB...anyway due to fortunate timing I almost breakeven already in under 2 weeks.
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Yeah i'm holding Manlike US's equity fund.

I don't have much spare money man. Was just going to put in 1k in Titans and another 1k in Affin Hwang's Japan Growth Fund.



Aunty has given me a certain amount of money to put into her portfolio and I'm still considering what to buy or top-up
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 7 2017, 12:19 AM)
just saw your comment. I think you have a civic responsibility to the person you help manage and enquire their risk appetite. after all its their money and to cover your ass if shit hits the fan bro. I seen families break because of money and boy can money be a catalyst of anger, jealousy and vengeance.

Same with me. I took the responsibility of managing my girlfriend's portfolio but I asked her the standard

do you know what is unit trust.
how does it work.
difference between fixed income and equity.
portfolio approach.
returns and lost.
risk appetite.
investment horizon.

better to practice this so you can reflect on yours too bro.

just my two cents.
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Ok let's put it this way, I just completed my Masters degree and my aunt who i am very closed too gave me an X sum of money as a graduation gift and told me to use it for anything that i want.

I kept justifying as to why I didn't want it but she kept on repeating her points and saying that I'm her nephew, more of a son to her blah blah blah.

The moment that she came up with the statement saying that I could use this funds for trading on my own as I've been doing this passively for the past 2 years plus, I suggested that I would then use these funds and invest them on her behalf. Any profits gained would be shared equally and any losses would be borne by her. She finally agreed to this lol.


I totally understand what you mean about family ties being broken over "money issues". Parent's have always brought me up since young with certain moral principles that I strictly obey to date!


*A key point here is that she's totally aware of investments as she's a retired investment banker

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 7 2017, 12:44 AM)
awesome. just looking out for you buddy. some old people can be nasty when they hand over their monies to you to invest and when you make a little lost for them and not understanding that it takes time they will caci maki you to the whole Kampung. worst still you doing for free. lol.
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Lol, i totally understand with what you mean.

I've had a like 2 relatives (retirees and gossipers, let's hope that they are not silent readers of this forum lol) that tried seeking for my advice as to what to buy when they came to know that I was trading/investing. Never bothered entertaining them cause if i ever happened to advice them to buy something and that's the time that shit goes down, they would start telling the whole world that I conned them lol.




So tell me man, what does your gf provide you in return for managing her portfolio ? Any profit sharing ?

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On the other hand, theres roughly another 40 points for the Dow to hit 20k. Let's hope it hits today lol
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 7 2017, 12:51 AM)
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the 0.5% SC has already begins....
goto FSM MY site to see the funds SC....
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Shouldn't the promo only start at 8.45am when the event starts ?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 7 2017, 12:57 AM)
if you want, you can start to buy at 8.45am in the morning...
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I am browsing for some things that I wanted...
if found, buy it now and wake up later tomorrow morning...no need to wait for 8.45am
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Cool, what funds are you planning to invest in ?
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QUOTE(john123x @ Jan 10 2017, 10:31 AM)
Guys, i have a question. I have read all fsm faq, and suddenly i think if this scenario.

According to faq, switching isnt eligible for fsm promo rates.
If i park my  money at CMF, if i switch from CMF to UT, i am ineligible for 0.5% promo rate?

Another question is, transaction before 3pm working day is considered transacted on that day. But 14 jan Saturday is not a working day, therefore, it doesn't matter what time i transact on saturday, its still considered transact using monday working date price?

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You have to buy it during the workshop's timing on Saturday and yes, your NAV would be based on Monday's closing price.
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How long would it take FSM to update CIMB Principal Australian Equity Fund's fact sheet ? Still shows novermbers issue!
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...etMYCIMB008.pdf



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