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post Jan 4 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 4 2017, 03:04 PM)
ya.. Learning Curve for me...
Is time to seat down and study prperly
I really found no one for proper guide. And I am from medical field too, learning investment from zero since 3 yrs ago.

OK, THis is my Investements
I know got lot of Overlapping
The last three was investement with affinhwang agent.
YA Learning Curve for me..
I need sometime to analysis it again.

As requested
Name of Fund Payment Method Profit (%)
1 Affin Hwang Select AUD Income Fund - MYR Cheque -0.74
2 Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund  Cheque -3.51
3 Affin Hwang Select SGD Income Fund - MYR Cheque 7.54
4 AmAsia Pacific REITs - Class B (MYR)Cheque -0.87
5 CIMB Islamic Asia Pacific Equity Fund - MYR Cheque -1.38
6 CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR Cheque 12.85
7 CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund Cheque 20.44
8 Commodities Equity Cheque 15.78
9 Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Equity MY FundCheque 20.12
10 Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Ex-Japan Target Return Fund  Cheque -3.08
11 Eastspring Investments Bond Fund  EPF Account 1 -2.57
12 Eastspring Investments Dana Al-IlhamEPF Account 1 -1.40
13 Eastspring Investments Dynamic FundEPF Account 1 1.33
14 Eastspring Investments Global Leaders MY FundCheque 22.24
15 Eastspring Investments Japan Dynamic MY Fund - MYR HedgedCheque 21.06
16 Eastspring Investments MY Focus Fund EPF Account 1 -4.84
17 Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund  Cheque -6.15
Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund  EPF Account 1 -7.92
18 Kenanga Asia Pacific Total Return Fund Cheque 0.81
19 Kenanga Growth Fund EPF Account 1 -2.55
Kenanga Growth Fund Cheque 4.86
20 Kenanga Syariah Growth Fund EPF Account 1 -2.77
21 Maybank Bosera Greater China ASEAN Equity-I Fund - Class A (MYR) Cheque 9.35
22 Pacific Global Stars Fund Cheque 14.75 (left over Profit)
23 RHB Big Cap China Enterprise Fund  Cheque 7.41 (left over Profit)
24 TA European Equity Fund Cheque 15.90 (left over Profit)
25 RHB Cash Management Fund 2  Cheque 1.74
26 AffinHawang AIIMAN PRS GROWTH fund
27 AffinHawang AIIMAN PRS SHARIAH GROWTH fund 
28 AFFINHWANG AIIMAN GROWTH FUND 

Long list ya...
Those EPF one I admit, I didnt study properly just tembak... was inveested to aim total amount into reward programs
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wow, mind to share your initial investment date for these? Just to have a look at how your construction progress + performance over time.
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post Jan 6 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 6 2017, 09:26 AM)
I'll hold you on to that buddy. anyways it's off to gym for me. see you guys around! oh yeah tomorrow is the penang event which is on the 7th kan? all funds at 0.5%.

anyone buying anything tomorrow?

I'm planning to do the following

top up

Ponzi 2.0 1k
Rhb AIF 1k
AmAsia Pacific. 1k
ES Global Emerging markets 1k

for my lady's portfolio
Ponzi 2.0 1k
esther bond 1k

still don't have any trust in Malaysia bond atm sorry adele123
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I'm curious if this is a good time / worth it to top up to Ponzi 2.0 and AIF? My portfolio includes these 2 but a glimpse on the price it appears to be at the high side. By this I mean looking at the performacce chart + current NAV compared to All time high / one year low. Am I missing something?
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post Jan 6 2017, 10:36 PM

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Hi,

I'm just trying to use the Pinky's Excel sheet to put in the numbers.
When I select Platform Fee and input the amount, it shows that I have invested the amount of platform fee into the Entrance Value. However I have nothing in a CMF account so FSM did a unit sell out. So how is this reflected in the excel sheet?

Do I just put sell there and key in the units sold?

edit: I guess just put sell and manual adjust a bit since I totally have no idea why I cant make things tally.

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post Jan 14 2017, 08:16 PM

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Door gifts from FSM is just a lunch box and tumbler. Then take the lucky draw tear-out to every counter to stamp, and get a spin on wheel of fortune for another gift including RM10 Parkson voucher, FSM notebook, tumbler/mug etc.

Aberdeen gave a box of tissue and mouse+notepad
Eastspring fish catching game and I got a desktop calendar, others including biscuits, umbrella, lunchbox (again), pens etc
Nomura gave a smartphone screen cleaner
RHB gave post-it notes (how many notes are we going to write)
Money Compass and Smart Investor gave a copy of their magazine respectively

Until today I thought FSM is more appealing to the younger people (read: small fish like me) but surprisingly there are many uncles and aunties there and they told me their children recommends FSM to them. And they get silver/gold/platinum sales charge since they have big(ger) monies.

Basically the main point I see is they are all optimistic about Asia-Pacific ex-Japan / ASEAN / Asian Emerging Markets. A number of them are optimistic on Malaysia subject to stock picking on particular sectors (infrastructure, commodity-related, disruptive businesses)
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post Jan 14 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 14 2017, 08:19 PM)
How about China and India outlook?
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As with two of the funds which are popular here CIMB Greater China Fund and Manulife India (since this is the only India-centric fund)
The speakers from these two houses respectively spoke about them.

Edwin Lee (Manulife)
China came a long way from communism to market reform to WTO to olympic games to current with advanced infrastructure and high-tech nation.
As China grows their labour became expensive. Then India came along with cheap labour and comparable population for their products consumption. India's potential with economies of scale is comparable to that of China some twenty years ago. Alongside with many stimulating policies introduced by the new India PM to eradicate poverty, fight corruption, deals with tech giants to build infrastructure/services for free, bankruptcy law reform, GST, Made in India initiative/China Industrial Park in India etc., India is to become the next production powerhouse with big China brands setting up plant in India. Very optimistic about India in the next few years.

Harry Leong (CIMB Principal)
EM growth > DM growth
The hot monies move from Asia to US only poses short term pressure to Asia. He thinks Trump's protectionist policy is too extreme it is unrealistic, and simply don't have the money (proposed tax cuts) and the labour market (full employment at 2% unemployment) to spend on the promised infrastructure. Even so, to some extend these policies will put money back to the Americans which would eventually increase demand for imported goods. This translates to opportunities for the countries which import to US. Global inflation bottomed in 2016 and expected to rise throughout 2017 albeit dampened global economic growth. On valuations, AP ex-Japan has attractive valuations currently. They expect Asian equities to outperform Asian bonds.

Of course, they are representing these few funds so managers only promotes what's good to people. Take everything with a few pinches of salt.
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post Jan 14 2017, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 14 2017, 09:53 PM)
any codes needed to enjoy 0.5% sales commission?
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No codes but they said it will be just today. Not sure if tomorrow there will still be 0.5%, like how some fellow forumers have reported here last week. FSM also confirms that you can pay latest on 20th for transactions done today.
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post Jan 15 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 15 2017, 08:17 PM)
show at here the mitsubishi ang pow, i wanna see.....don't have , tengok tengok pun puas.... biggrin.gif
hmm.gif next time ask fsm taja ur ppl parking lo... thumbup.gif
but parking fee RM7 is damn high lo....

haven't attend event like this , just wanna hear the "expert" talk... tongue.gif
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There are always cheaper alternatives like taking a bus and packing two slices of plain white bread should you want to save money.
I'm not too sure about MRT but there's this BRT which services Sunway Pyramid I believe, not too sure about the fare though.
There are some uncles I met who took a bus there.
However I always thought they would offer lunch. Only then I found out they expected you to eat yourself doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2017, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 15 2017, 08:24 PM)
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here you go bro. double layer.

also this is bigger than my palm. so yeah.
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I guess your dad works for Mitsubishi or is a die hard fan?
Personally I don't like this kind of design which too hard sell of the brand.
and I thought FSM ones looked better, although not so red like this Mitsubishi.
And this one says 2017, cannot recycle.
We are getting carried away.
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post Jan 18 2017, 12:11 PM

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My current portfolio in FSM consists of

Porfolio % [Initial Cash] / Name / (Holding time)

37.5% RHB Emerging Markets Bond Fund (5 months)
37.5% RHB Asian Income Fund (5 months)
12.5% CIMB AP Dynamic Income Fund (1 month)
12.5% CIMB Greater China Equity Fund (2 weeks)

As you can see it is still at an infant stage where I am slowly building up.
Any advice on where should I diversify / rebalance?
I'm thinking of reducing the RHB AIF to a more aggressive fund.

Another question is, for these funds above, what peer funds do I compare these with?
For example I compare CIMB Greater China with other three within the same geographical sectors and similar holdings (EI Dinasti, Manulife China Eq, Pacific Focus)
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post Jan 18 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 18 2017, 03:07 PM)
I personally don't invest in balance fund. when you chose to invest in balance fund, then there's an understanding that you made a trade off, return vs risk. and 5 months for 2% + inclusive of 1% sales charge, apa lu mau? It is about okay for a balance fund. disappointing to you maybe, but it is a balance fund.

few things to note...

1) withdrawing would mean you will lose the sales charge. since switching present a cost for RHB funds, same problem/issue.
2) 5 months is really not a timeframe to gauge the performance of a fund
3) diversifying doesn't have to happen overnight. doesn't mean you magically change your portfolio from A to B. you can slowly increase your top up to other funds.
4) you may want to sit down think through what you want, purely changing to a more aggressive portfolio without proper consideration doesn't guarantee high return...
5) don't simply switch, buy new funds incur new cost. like you said, if you bought it when the market was on a high, then reasonably the fund price doesn't always go up and up like ponzi numbers. there needs to be realistic expectation.
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Thanks for the note.

I'm trying to be realist and not emotional here, that is why I am *considering* to bail out of AIF. I remember reading somewhere previously in this thread or the previous versions, someone says anything below 6% is a considered a failed investment. Rather should I cut loss and seek better options, no? Or rather just suck it up and do other diversifying things first.

I don't quite sure I understand your point 1. When the fund was bought I was charged for a SC. Do you mean I will get charged another fee upon selling? Unless you do not intend to sell the said fund forever, when you sell/switch, you always lose?

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post Jan 25 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 25 2017, 03:01 PM)
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CNY mood already... things have quiet down at work a bit. My staffs are eating keropok / mandarin oranges and biscuits liao.
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Usually bosses make more money in his enterprise than his market. Or maybe I assumed that since SME bosses are too busy running the business and no time to spend at the market...
Mind to tell what business is that?

By the way, I have just bought the book Intelligent Investor and just finished chapter 1 during my flight balik kampung. Haven't read the entire book yet, but I get a grasp on his attitude towards investment (i.e the highlighted distinction between investor and speculator). So far I've read about DCA, his approach to buy when the price is going down (value investment?) and his aversion to hit-and-run speculator...it seems like you are a follower of this approach, am I right?

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post Jan 26 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(biastee @ Jan 26 2017, 10:18 AM)
Maybe not all bond funds on FSM MY have platform fees. FSM MY doesn't list any platform fee for RHB Islamic bond

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If you go to https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...alesCharge.svdo you can have a glance on the fees incurred on all funds on one page
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post Jan 26 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 26 2017, 10:23 AM)
Looks like today is the last day of the 1% sales charge. anyone topping up?
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I am pondering if to buy Manulife US or Manulife India...based on my current portfolio I need more other regions, however these two seems like being expensive for the time being.

Current portfolio
RHB AIF 37.5%
RHB EMBF 37.5%
CIMB GCEF 12.5%
CIMB APDIF 12.5%

or perhaps I should go for TA Global Tech or CIMB Titans? Only Manulife US got 1% SC promo though.

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post Jan 26 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 26 2017, 10:43 AM)
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no right or wrong,.....just individual preference....
but for me,...I think it is
TOO heavy on just his part of the world?
reduce some AIF and EMBF and go to India and US
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Instead of switching over I am thinking to lump in some more money into other sectors since I just received my salary blush.gif
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post Jan 26 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 26 2017, 10:54 AM)
thumbsup.gif it is a good start.....since the US and India are single country funds with higher volatility....just increase it to abt 6 ~ 8% each....
just wondering how long will it takes to reach that target?
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I'm a small fish so with minimum initial investment into either one will bring me to 11%...or 10% each if I buy into both cry.gif
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post Jan 27 2017, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(skynode @ Jan 27 2017, 01:24 PM)
Greetings, I am new to FSM.  What would the Sifu's here recommend in terms of fund allocation for an Agressive Portfolio with good diversification.
I have a long investment horizon.

Somewhere along the thread, I saw this :
40% CIMB Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
30% CIMB Global Titans Fund
20% Kenanga Growth Fund
10% Manulife India Equities Fund

Is this good diversification and are they good funds for growth?

I would like to have some bond fund too in the mixed.  Any suggestions/recommendations are most welcomed.  Thank you.
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Check out FSM's recommended aggressive portfolio. Go under research in FSM's website. You may want to allocate a certain portion in fixed income aka bonds

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post Feb 2 2017, 10:02 PM

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Dear friends,

Few pages back I read friend xuzen said >20% return on PRS...anyone care to elaborate?Secondly, what is you guys' take on the liquidity of PRS funds? My current understanding is Account A can only be withdrawn at age of 55. But we don't know how would the fund perform 25 years from now (or even exists). Is there any kind of protection against this? Even with switching still there are liquidity risks involved isn't it?

Secondly, should I include the funds invested in PRS into my overall UT portfolio in terms of diversification purposes? For example I am holding CIMB APDI; while on PRS fund there is CIMB PRS APExJ Equity Class C feeds into the former. Should I be holding both or should I only keep one of them? ie. Hold CIMB PRS APExJ and switch CIMB APDI elsewhere?

Following the above question, what does the classes mean? eg. CIMB PRS APExJ E Class C, AmPRS AP REIT Class D, and so on.
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post Feb 8 2017, 02:33 AM

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Sorry to bother with a fundamental question.
FSM publishes weekly market valuation : https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ruary-2017-7957
How do I read/comprehend this document?
What indicator does it tell?
Would I know/deduce if a certain general market is at a discount or at a premium from this document?
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post Feb 8 2017, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 8 2017, 10:42 AM)
Yea I did that. I void and make same purchase with same amount. But still have the message. Maybe need wait them to clear the order from system?
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previously I had a similar problem but the amount is only 2k. I click pay and went to the FPX page, but due to the poor internet connection, the page timed out, and I tried to click the pay button on FSM it doesn't work. Rang up FSM but a dude took my call and told me to void it and place a new order. Then it worked flawlessly. The void order will sit on the transaction page for a very long time, even after the actual purchased fund listed in the current holding, the void order is still there.

Edit: OT but I don't need to see those distracting signatures after every post. I recommend ublock origin for chrome/firefox. block all those annoying thing showing where my ISP and what my IP is thing plus 999+ other meaningless signatures.


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post Feb 8 2017, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 8 2017, 05:51 PM)
actually are HNW funds better at performing than the regular funds?

i mean if I have 100k would it be better to break it up into a portfolio rather than lump sum into one particular fund?

sad that I'm born poor. I have to start building my assets from the ground up.
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Being a doctor I guess you make pretty good money as all other doctors, compared to other cyclical professions/industries whereby they are market-sensitive, for example, an engineer or a construction worker.
Probably doctors prosper the most at bad markets when many investors are either having a cardiac arrest or hypertension or leap off a building looking at their margin accounts. It is a good business for healthcare to leverage on threats and emergencies, people simply have no choice but to pay to save someone's life.
Jokes aside what I'm trying to say is at least try to be content and carry on investing.

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