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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Ramjade
post Jan 11 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 11 2017, 07:24 PM)
I did a 2nd tranche lump sum investment today for TA European Equity Fund, TA Global Technology, Eastspring Global Leaders Fund and Eastspring Emerging Markets Fund.

Come on Trump. Don't disappoint me and get impeached for no good reason.
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They can impreached a US president?
Ramjade
post Jan 11 2017, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 11 2017, 08:08 PM)
Guys, I am in the middle of my application.

I just want to reconfirm about the TOTAL/FULL charges of using FSM, cause a few pages ago someone was talking about platform fees.

On their website's FAQ for the question "What kind of charges do I have to pay?", they only talk about the sales charge and annual fund management fee (priced into NAV). They don't mention anything about platform fees.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/W...e-to-pay-1083#1

Please, can some FSM sifus detail exactly what are the kinds of additional charges levied upon FSM account holders. TQ!
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Platform fees only for bonds. For equities, you pay one time service charge only.
Ramjade
post Jan 12 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 10:09 AM)
Hey guys.

I think I have a different investment strategy after a Alyzing few funds. I have about 500-1000 per month to invest and initially thought only 1 fund to invest. Now I think I should spread the money into few funds. That is better strategy right?

I look at bond funds and the return seems good compare to fd and is secure. Which bond/fix income fund is recommmend? I look at amanah income trust fund looks not bad with yearly return of 8-10%
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You can stick with 4 funds.
1 Asia Pacific funds/Balanced AP fund
1 US based fund
1 REITS fund
1 bond fund

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post Jan 12 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 12:47 PM)
Thnx. Cimb income fund is very misleading because it is equity and not income.
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What's there midleading? It's clearly stated on the FSM page equity. If income = bond fund. Even RHB is equity + bond fund = balanced fund.
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post Jan 12 2017, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 08:23 PM)
Be ready for a red Asian market these next 2 weeks. sad.gif

Today all major Asian countries kena whack kau kau (Japan, HK, and China). However, SEA and TW/KR/INDIA still OK.

I really don't know what to do already.

The problem I have is, if I switch my China funds into the Global Titans...it only has 50% exposure to USA. Still will be dragged down by Japan and perhaps Europe.

In Malaysia, there are ONLY 3 exclusively USA funds - RHB Goldman Sachs Large Caps, RHB US Focus Small Caps, and Manulife US Equity.
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Why is that? Please explain why do you think Asian market will be red these 2 weeks?

The dollar is dropping because Trump wasn't clear.
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“The market didn’t get what it wanted –- details on stimulus to be provided,”
Stocks ended higher on the day, after reaching session lows shortly after the 90-minute press conference ended without any elaboration on Trump’s plans for infrastructure spending, bank deregulation or trade policies.

When investors/speculators don't get what they want, they will sell.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...timulus-letdown

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post Jan 12 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jan 12 2017, 09:27 PM)
How do you keep track of your earnings and loss? You create this sheet or is it a tool provided by fsm?
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See first page. Polarbearz excel sheet.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 12 2017, 10:40 PM)
Invest so many funds? Is it good strategy or better focus on a few?
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His is active trading. He don't follow rules as he time the market, buy low sell high. Buy on dividend date.
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post Jan 12 2017, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(kd88 @ Jan 12 2017, 10:52 PM)
any recommended PRS?
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Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund - feeds into KGF
CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - feeds into Ponzi 2
AmPRS Asia Pacific REITs - feeds into AmAsia Pacific REITS

Have your pick.

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(kd88 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:00 PM)
why does CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund has the name of Ponzi 2?
What is the Ponzi 1?
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See first page for nicknames of the funds.
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post Jan 12 2017, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(kd88 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:04 PM)
Why those Aspac fund has the nickname of Ponzi?
Wondering..
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Because it produce double digit return in less than a year. Some went as high as 20+% Of course of Trump goes true with his threat, Asia Pacific will take a beating like what happen in Nov-Dec.
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post Jan 12 2017, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 11:14 PM)
Guys, WTF is happening? I thought Asia was doomed today, but Europe is trading lower, and USA is down by almost 1%.

Why is everyone taking out their capital, and where are they keeping this capital? Usually if Asia drops, EU/US goes up. Today it is getting progressively worse.

Does it mean there is hope tomorrow morning all these withdrawn US/EU funds will be channeled into Asia?
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Nope. if you read the news, it's going into gold.
Not necessary. Asia can rally if US rally. They can also go the opposite if US rally. Good eg Nov issue. When Trump was elected, the US market rally. Asia follow. Then he gave a speech, US rally more and Asia takes a beating.

QUOTE(kd88 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:16 PM)
Notice eastspring small cap have the nickname of kap chai?
Can I know what is kap chai?
Why it has this name?

I am having this fund.
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You don't know what's kap cai? Seriously? doh.gif

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 11:26 PM)
Gold mean buy the gold funds, or actual gold? Are gold funds equity funds or commodity funds? Are they investing into the gold companies or into the commodity itself?
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Gold funds. But gold funds volatility too high. If really want to buy gold fund better buy gold ETFs. You get real time movement.

There are 2 on FSM.
Precious metal securities
Rhb gold and general fund

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 11:28 PM)
Wow man, the NASDAQ and DAX are down by 1%. Surely this is an over-reaction to Trump and not an actual start of a recession right?
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Nope over reaction. Once he start talking concrete facts, it will go up provided "investors" are happy with what he said. Of course if he mess up, US will drop further. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 12 2017, 11:34 PM)
if you have followed the campaign trail from day 1 you will know the promises trump have made have not come true until now and he had already backed tracked a few of those like Obama care, sending Hillary to prison, building the wall cough fence cough and getting Mexico to pay for it.

also go watch the first press conference on YouTube. it's 1 hour long but he doesn't touch any policies that he was pushing for.

hence I do not want to bet all into US. it will come crashing down and those investors will come back.
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If they start coming back, it will be good for me. Why?
1) Potential double digit growth for me. rclxm9.gif Right now I am about 0.xx% only sad.gif
2) Buy Manulife US at discount.
3) RM will recover, can convert more RM > SGD

QUOTE(David3700 @ Jan 12 2017, 11:34 PM)
So anybody still have the appetite to top up on 14 Jan (0.5% SC) ?
Or wait until Trump officially take POTUS seat.
Coz he say will have major actions on the day he becomes the POTUS
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Will topup Manulife US if it drop further as I believed he will be true with his words.

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 11:45 PM)
So if you are anticipating Manulife US to drop, why not switch out of your current holdings? You will "profit" when you switch back in, won't you?

Also, yeah if the US stock market really gets depressed in the short term then it would make it extremely enticing to switch/buy/top-up massively to take advantage of the inevitable rise of American stocks.
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I aren't playing switching here and there. Actually right now on auto pilot. Not topping up/not selling/not monitoring as I am planning to switch over to SG UT (once it's approve). Need ammo for SG UT as their currency 3.13x ours. sad.gif But will topup if drop a lot. Say 5% brows.gif Cannot let money sitting ideally.

You are forgetting the 2% service charge every time you buy in. Will only sell say after 5 years. I sold off my Manulife US (wrong choice) after Trump won. So I am looking to buy back if it's good.

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post Jan 12 2017, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 11:55 PM)
Are you Singaporean? Why do you want their fund local fund? Why not buy a Singaporean fund in Malaysia?
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I am a Malaysian la. doh.gif I am not buying their fund doh.gif I am using their platform to buy UT. Why? Simple
1) Service charge of only 0.75%. FSM 2%. Of course one can technically buy at 0% from them if use some tricks but I rather pay 0.75% since my ammo is limited.
2) Their fund perform better than ours (the same region funds)
3) Very very big selection (there's global REITS (but majority in (US REITS), global infrastructure, more US, AP HY bonds at only SGD1k compare to FSM MY which needs min RM10k, healthcare, some nice Japan funds)
4) Money is located in Malaysia. Should we sell our funds, we will still be earning RM.

Lesson learnt from Malaysia:
1) Never buy single country funds like Malaysia. If buying single country funds, make sure it's big (like India and US) - so no SG funds specifically
2) Get your cost down as much as possible (I find 2% is steep)

Better performance:
Let me give you an example.
Henderson Global Tech (mother fund of TA Global Tech) vs Fidelity Global Tech. Fidelity Global Tech outperforms Henderson Global Tech. Both are available in SG site.

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post Jan 13 2017, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 13 2017, 12:01 AM)
FSM SG has more choice though

To give you a lead, currently non of the US/developed market/ global funds available in FSM MY can compete with S&P 500, but in FSM SG, so far I can find 2 of them
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Sorry my mistake. blush.gif

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Jan 13 2017, 12:11 AM)
No, I think he's right.
"NONE of the ...... in FSM MY can compete with S&P 500."
Sounds legit.
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Yup. Guess you are right blush.gif

QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 13 2017, 12:01 AM)
FSM SG has more choice though

To give you a lead, currently non of the US/developed market/ global funds available in FSM MY can compete with S&P 500, but in FSM SG, so far I can find 2 of them
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Just a precaution. Some fund in SG mirror the ETF of the country (replicating the ETF). So one is actually paying more for the fund when one can buy the index.
Source: Singapore investment blogs.

Care to share which one? For my SG UT portfolio, I sort of run away from my 5-6 funds max principles. Too much too buy drool.gif I am looking at total of 9 funds sad.gif

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 13 2017, 12:20 AM)
Oh ok. That's really interesting.

How easy is it to make a SG account at FSM? They let a Malaysian make an account there? Will MAS bar you from entering Singapore if you do this? They seem very strict one wor, can't play play.
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Nope no problem. The problem is can you get a SG bank account? That's the hard part. They are very strict about this. I got mine last week.
Once you get that, it's very easy to open account with FSM SG/Philips/DollarDex.

I am going with Philips. Why?
1) FSM SG charges you platform fees of 0.4%pa. Even if you are not buying anything. In the long run it's > Philips/DollarDex. I did a calculations using excel and holding for 10 years and Philips save me >6%. Of course you can utilise some ninja trick to prevent them for charging you.
2) Philips only 0.75% SC. Totally no platform fees. (Use all of FSM SG free info and buy from Philips.)

I will use FSM SG if they charge SC of say 0.75% instead of charging platform fees. But they are going the platfrm fees route so no thanks.

People say DollarDex and FSM is easy to open. Why? DollarDex will mail you all the form by snail mail (just drop them an email). FSM, one can apply via online.

For all 3 you need to take SG govt open book test on investment. No time limit rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 13 2017, 12:27 AM)
I suggest at your current status as a fresh graduate to think it through if you are interested.

opening fsm SG account is easy but getting a SG bank account is a different ball game altogether. ramjade has been diligent enough by researching and asking in the SG  counters thread.  if you do get one congratulations but j can feel you are chasing things too fast bro.
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Actually I have been researching for over a year. sweat.gif

QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 13 2017, 12:26 AM)
Wow, the Brazillian market is at over 2.25% right now for the day. I really really regret why we don't have a retail Brazil-focused fund in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 13 2017, 12:27 AM)
I suggest at your current status as a fresh graduate to think it through if you are interested.

opening fsm SG account is easy but getting a SG bank account is a different ball game altogether. ramjade has been diligent enough by researching and asking in the SG  counters thread.  if you do get one congratulations but j can feel you are chasing things too fast bro.
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Something which SG side have. You want BRIC also got. You want specific Russia also got. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 13 2017, 12:47 AM)
Friends, who from here is attending the talk on Saturday? Do you guys have a meet up at previous FSM events?

Did anyone attend any such similar FSM events in the past? Were they worth going for?

TQ!
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FSM have events every year. Sometimes at events, you will receive special code which can be used to reduced service charge. If I am in Malaysia, would like to go and listen. Hear the expert opinions.

FSM LYN members don't meet up. sweat.gif

FSM staff, can please upload event video on Youtube so that those of us here can watch it too? Please? Thank you. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Jan 13 2017, 07:53 AM)
Japan market so bad? Y so many ex Japan?
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Because Japan counted as develoved country while asia pacific = developing market. Japan economy is a bit weird.

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