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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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cclim2011
post Feb 23 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(frozz@holic @ Feb 23 2017, 11:14 AM)
it's simple math pal, all banks follow the standard defination of P.A. or Per Annum
but when less than a year they will go by ratio of months you choose for your lock in period. 

so taking your example

" 1 month FD promotion, 4% per annum. "

would translate to

Interest Rate = 4.0% (as marketed / mentioned)
Effective Rate = 0.3333% (the ACTUAL interest rate you would be getting that will be used to multiple with your deposited amount as it's only 1 month)
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just last question before we agree that we are on different pages (and that is perfectly fine)

another promotion from another bank

24 month FD promotion, 4% per annum.
The effective rate per annum is ____ %

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post Feb 23 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Feb 23 2017, 12:17 PM)
cclim2011 a noble thing you're trying to do. but don't end up  bangwall.gif  ya!  console.gif

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patience grows as people are aging lol. if I am a banker, I dont dare to give non 1-year-duration FD promotion anymore. biggrin.gif

It's just an online forum for learning and sharing anyway haha


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post Feb 23 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(frozz@holic @ Feb 23 2017, 11:14 AM)
it's simple math pal, all banks follow the standard defination of P.A. or Per Annum
but when less than a year they will go by ratio of months you choose for your lock in period. 

so taking your example

" 1 month FD promotion, 4% per annum. "

would translate to

Interest Rate = 4.0% (as marketed / mentioned)
Effective Rate = 0.3333% (the ACTUAL interest rate you would be getting that will be used to multiple with your deposited amount as it's only 1 month)
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In light of your explanation, let me put forth a scenario.

When SCB previously had a 4.5% p.a. for 15 months, you would then say you have gotten 5.6% of the amount you put in.

If a bank were to give you 4% p.a. for 18 months now, would you then say at the end of 18 months you have gotten 5.9%, which makes it higher than the above?

Your math is simple, but not accurate to the rate that an individual would have gotten. You're purely looking at absolute amount versus amount put in, hence why you said 2.66% is low.

In the same essence, if MBSB gives 4.3% for 5 years, interest is 21.5% assuming no compounding interest. If people were to look at it from this point of view, WOW, 21.5% ... which simple maths as you put it, but flawed to the interest rate earned.

To emphasize, your calculation is not wrong. But it's misleading to say that is the effective rate in my opinion. It is an effective sum, based on the effective rate p.a. of the bank.

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 12:25 PM)
24 month FD promotion, 4% per annum.
The effective rate per annum is ____ %
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Darn it, you posted your question before I finished typing mine biggrin.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Feb 23 2017, 12:31 PM)
Darn it, you posted your question before I finished typing mine  biggrin.gif
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Dont give so difficult question la ish! 24 kan good and easy to count!
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post Feb 23 2017, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 12:28 PM)
patience grows as people are aging lol. if I am a banker, I dont dare to give non 1-year-duration FD promotion anymore. biggrin.gif

It's just an online forum for learning and sharing anyway haha
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good on you if you got patience.

hehehe i now wait for the inevitable ...the long, pedantic essay from you know who tongue.gif

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post Feb 23 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Feb 23 2017, 12:45 PM)
good on you if you got patience.

hehehe i now wait for the inevitable ...the long, pedantic essay from you know who  tongue.gif
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eh I also notice long passages lately... that one I dont have the patience haha
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post Feb 23 2017, 01:19 PM

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actually not just lately. but everybody's entitled to what they want to write, long or short. Ppl without much patience like me... well we just gloss over & just don't respond... lest we inadvertently stimulate more literary diarrhoea

Change subject. Every morning I hear on radio that the US Fed's gonna raise interest rates soon. Does anyone think BNM will follow?

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post Feb 23 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Feb 22 2017, 02:28 PM)
Thanks for the photo of the Affin OMG Combo II packages. rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif  I collected their previous OMG Combo yesterday morning from Affin Islamic branch during walk around survey after EPF dividend announcement.

Comparing it appears that the 80% portions:-
Package 1 :- Big jump from 3.78% to 4% for 13 months.
Package 2 :- Big jump from 3.88% to 4.05% and longer by 1 month from 14 month to become 15 month.
Package 3 :- Big jump from 3.98% to 4.10% and longer by 3 months from 15 month to 18 month.

The 20% portions for 6 months did not change and maintained at 3.58%, 3.68% and 3.78%. dry.gif

Your picture does not show the bundling requirements - whether any, remain the same as before or changed like open or top-up SA requirements which was RM 200, RM 500 and RM 1000 respectively. Are we to assume that they are still the same as before? rclxub.gif ANSWER:- NO MORE REQUIREMENTS

I wonder how our real interest, effective interest rate  and pizza slicing sifus make comparison or comments against other flat rate or step-up promos coming up soon.  brows.gif  biggrin.gif  devil.gif

The longer term rates had increased to range from 4% to 4.10% for Affin Bank according to this promo. rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Was at Affin today and asked about the OMG Combo II promo. I was told Affin dropped all the bundling requirements in their previous OMG Combo promo.
Thus each of the 3 new packages offers 2 pure FDs each which have to be placed simultaneously.
Minimum is RM 10k per package and maximum is RM 3 million per customer.

Now that the other bundling requirements and extra costs are no longer there to make it difficult to calculate the real benefit, perhaps some of the sifus here can try to explain how they would evaluate these 3 packages. Since each package is made up of a six month FD and a longer tenor FD, I hope nobody will confuse the matter by using Effective Interest Rate p.a. which should be confined to discussions or comparisons of STEP FD promos.

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post Feb 23 2017, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Feb 23 2017, 12:17 PM)
cclim2011 a noble thing you're trying to do. but don't end up  bangwall.gif  ya!  console.gif

whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 12:28 PM)
patience grows as people are aging lol. if I am a banker, I dont dare to give non 1-year-duration FD promotion anymore. biggrin.gif

It's just an online forum for learning and sharing anyway haha
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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Feb 23 2017, 12:31 PM)
Darn it, you posted your question before I finished typing mine  biggrin.gif
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EVIL BUNCH!!!!!

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christmas is coming soon.. be nice!!!! LOL! xmas.gif

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AMB Still have the empowerment rate - but for 5 years only got good rate...

3 years for 4.02%

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post Feb 23 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Feb 23 2017, 02:30 PM)
EVIL BUNCH!!!!!

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christmas is coming soon.. be nice!!!! LOL! xmas.gif

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AMB Still have the empowerment rate - but for 5 years only got good rate...

3 years for 4.02%
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still have 10 months before xmas leh

wah your amb got 12.06% effective rate. now it's evil lol
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hi i have 800K, may i know which bank interest is highest?


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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Feb 21 2017, 05:42 PM)
In RHB today. Their FD promo over for normal customers.

For Premier customer, their FD promo:

12 mth 4.05%
6 mth 3.85%

min 50k.
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to add-on for the benefits of others

For non-premier customers (min 50k is still applicable)

12 mth 4.00%
6 mth 3.80%

Total fund size, RM2 billion for each tenure.

End 30/04/2017

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post Feb 23 2017, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(carentan @ Feb 23 2017, 03:48 PM)
hi i have 800K, may i know which bank interest is highest?
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didnt follow up much lately.

want pidm protection? (need split to different banks then)
want to place for how long?


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post Feb 23 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 03:57 PM)
didnt follow up much lately.

want pidm protection? (need split to different banks then)
want to place for how long?
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well lets start from 6 months maybe.
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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 23 2017, 03:51 PM)
to add-on for the benefits of others

For non-premier customers (min 50k is still applicable)

12 mth 4.00%
6 mth 3.80%

Total fund size, RM2 billion for each tenure.

End 30/04/2017
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U got the info today from RHB ? On Tuesday they told me no more FD promo except for RHB Premier customer. hmm.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Feb 23 2017, 12:17 PM)
cclim2011 a noble thing you're trying to do. but don't end up  bangwall.gif  ya!  console.gif

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laugh.gif better than get post reported and deleted. someone gud at reporting pipu's post here, you know who la.

QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 01:01 PM)
eh I also notice long passages lately... that one I dont have the patience haha
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me tu. long winded till pensan wat he is saying.

QUOTE(carentan @ Feb 23 2017, 03:48 PM)
hi i have 800K, may i know which bank interest is highest?
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read post 1 to get some idea dulu.

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QUOTE(yygo @ Feb 23 2017, 04:13 PM)
laugh.gif better than get post reported and deleted. someone gud at reporting pipu's post here, you know who la.
me tu. long winded till pensan wat he is saying.
read post 1 to get some idea dulu.
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i did, mostly 3% +-
just check here see any special package or not.
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post Feb 23 2017, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(carentan @ Feb 23 2017, 04:04 PM)
well lets start from 6 months maybe.
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bong bong give you some of my preference...

If age over 40, can go alliance (1 year) 4.05
If not, OCBC (1 year) or AMbank (9 month) 4
If Internet Savvy, Hong Leong (8 month). 4


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QUOTE(cclim2011 @ Feb 23 2017, 04:29 PM)
bong bong give you some of my preference...

If age over 40, can go alliance (1 year) 4.05
If not, OCBC (1 year) or AMbank (9 month) 4
If Internet Savvy, Hong Leong (8 month). 4
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thx very much. but how come i didnt see this rate at the first page?

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