Going to buy a 2016 Honda Civic but struggling on 1.5 or 1.8.
Since Honda first invented turbo charge on their model and there is rumor said that overheating issue or the owner have to change the engine oil frequently.

If you don't fancy power or high tech engine, the 1.8 liter engine will do. This engine is reliable.

Do you think turbo engine suitable for daily use that would meet heavy traffic condition oftenly?

Why not ?


This post has been edited by Drian: Dec 13 2016, 06:15 PM

Is it mean the engine also have to change in very short period of time?

I was told turbo maintenance is high but if you look at Honda's website it seems like otherwise . Isit bcoz turbo is 1.5 n thus uses less engine oil compare to 1.8?

Engine oil for turbo car will need to be replace more frequently becoz of the turbo itself. Not the engine. The oil is fed to cool the turbine as well. The turbine runs very hot that degrade the oil.

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Dec 13 2016, 06:29 PM

I don't see why it is high but the intervals might be shorter depending on driving condition. Is say rm300 ringgit a year extra high maintenance?



This post has been edited by Drian: Dec 13 2016, 06:31 PM

Malaysian kiasuness ma..
They forgot to factor in.. 1.8L roadtax at 280 per year while 70 per year for 1.5L

Only that small difference? In that case turbo is definitely better. Not only u save more fuel but road tax is cheaper too but i doubt so. I think turbo cost is much more than that.
Btw does civic need to do decarbo as well?

This post has been edited by jucl: Dec 13 2016, 06:42 PM

Best to check with the civicX club people.

As far as I know , decarbo is one of those things that is not mandatory but people do it anyway just to play safe. VW club people recommends every 60k.

The Paultan review said the 1.8 is more powerful and the 1.5t is tuned for fuel economy.

normal decarbo service in the market wont clean the carbon deposits on the intake valves

civic's 1.5 turbo is a GDI engine, thus the carbon deposits on the intake valves are inevitable. While 1.8 NA will be much more reliable

This post has been edited by trimmtrabb: Dec 13 2016, 07:36 PM

If both 1.5T & 1.8 are equally specced I might choose 1.8, probably better for long-term

1.8 missing leather seat, paddler shifter, rear dim mirror, 17inch wheels and of course the turbo engine

1.5 TCP gain LED, chrome handle and GPS

1.5 turbo maintenance schedules is decoupled means that depend on driving condition, you might need to change the engine oil when the service reminder pops up and go back again for the 10k service. You can opt to do both together if the reminder pops up at 7k or more.

Beware of turbo, i heard it myself , it has low speed engine knock. I go for evening walks and ngam ngam near a speed bump civic was passing

As he accelerated over it, so distinct klak klak klak engine knock. I was shocked, you normally hear that on old wira, iswara carburetor not in brand spanking new engine .

If it is that mysterious low speed knock that is fatal to turbo engines, good luck. That's why many people say never never never lug a turbo engine , meaning floor the pedal in high gear.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-speed_pre-ignition

This post has been edited by rcracer: Dec 13 2016, 11:11 PM

more fun facts:

Depends on usage, most turbo need to rebuild within 100k ~ 200k millage range yo

Dont listen to unfounded rumours about overheating issues.

Go scour the CivicX owners forum and talk to current owners about their experience on the 1.5TC.

The turbocharged version is the only model worth buying IMO.
Looks, power and features (those lovely LED headlights especially) all in one handsome package.

90 la!

deswai it got cvt

The cvt tuning must be off, an engine should almost never knock unless wrong or bad fuel was put into the tank

Other cars you can get away , but this is especially deadly for downsized turbo engines

If you don't need the extra power, don't want the hassle of the possibility of going to the service center multiple times for changing the engine oil, the 1.8 is good enough. If you drive like an aunty, the 1.5TC is more frugal than the 1.8. If your right foot is heavy, the 1.5 drinks more than the 1.8. Check my sig for the fuel consumption of the TC-P.

My engine oil is changed every 10,000km - will be going to the SC next week for my 10,000KM servicing and my first engine oil change too. If you get stuck in heavy traffic jams, the engine oil change will be between 5,500KM-7,000KM ymmv. I don't have significant traffic jams in my daily drive, hence the 10,000KM OCI in my maintenance minder.

Don't listen to the detractors of the TC engine. It's definitely more powerful than the 1.8 engine and rumours of overheat engine everywhere are just that: rumours. Yes, there is a confirmed case each in Thailand and Malaysia (that we know), but out of thousands sold now, we can safely say that they are lemon units - any manufacturer will have lemon units here and there not just the Honda Civic. My colleagues' brand new BMW 520i had an engine check prompt right after he drove out of the showroom, does it mean that the car is inherently problematic?

Do join us in the Honda Civic X thread to discuss more with owners if you're worried. We list down all the known issues and how to fix those - at least we are all being truthful and owners are sharing their experience with each other.

I'm curious to see if my observation of low speed engine knock is true

Maybe your group can test it out for the benefit all all new potential buyers

Try driving slowly over speed bumps , starting on hills , oh and parking ramps in multi story car parks are especially good at inducing engine knock. If this is true you need to push Honda for Ecu update

1.5 TC hands down.

Sometimes I think the overheat issue has been exaggerated by sales people like vengeful in an attempt to improve their own car sales.

Sorry.. 90 not for 1.6 meh?

I long time no drive such cc jo..

Thanks for ur sharing, how do I join the CivicX club?

Bro, below 1.8 is 90 for road tax even it is a turbo engine

just went for a return trip to JB using civic 1.5tc..so far no problem with overheating or whatsoever knocking. the only downside for the car is the cvt feeling.

Turbo I know same price..
But ur statement not correct.. My wife myvi 1.3 is 70. Lol

Engine oil capacity
R18 = 3.7L (including filter)
L15 turbo = 3.6 L (including filter)

Feel free to join our discussion here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4121817

Perhaps what you hear is just those common direct injection petrol engine sound. Even Mazda Skyactiv petrol sounds like a clattering diesel during cold start. Even BMW petrol idling sound from outside can hear it sounds like diesel clatter albeit quieter.

I doubt it , injector ping is a clicking like noise

Engine knock is very unique sounding

1.5 to 1.6 is RM 90 per year.

i know la yours 2.0..jgn berlagak sini

uphill very gooding.

yeah, CVT is really boring and that is the only downside.

the speed rise quickly..but then feel very2 lame. the rest the car is good enough.

not yet test the car to cameron or genting..but cvt will help the engine+turbo maintain at it peak torque.

1.5. But I think 1.8 is also good value.

This post has been edited by sanjeevhsbc: Dec 15 2016, 07:12 PM

Resale value wise I think 1.5 will be more demanded than 1.8

Resale value wise I think 1.5 will be more demanded than 1.8

The turbo is 2 seconds faster from 0-100

The civic turbo is benchmark against the BMW 3 series and Audi A4 and it costs half of that

Driving towards 200km and above is pretty effortless

2017 still got people claiming turbo engine die faster ?

Default out of factory turbo engine will not die any sooner than any NA engine out there presuming all other driving conditions are the same. Modded engine engine will, may it be NA or turbo.

the engine already announced in 2013, 3 yr before if you count from the day civic official launch
means dev and test is started much earlier
don't think they never put into sufficient stress test
so unless some bad-s***-luck defect, or abuse/mod, or even exceptional extreme condition
really doubt it cannot last or withstand day-to-day usage...
and to be precise the CVT for 1.8 vs 1.5T is also different
1.8 is using something Midsize-CVT for compact car like civic, while 1.5T should be on Large-CVT intended for accord
B-seg is using something small-CVT
that Large CVT is used to withstand the turbo...so yea...u paying extra 14k++ is not for nothing...

some reading to understand more
http://hondanews.com/releases/2016-honda-c...wertrain?page=2

This post has been edited by dinozilla: May 3 2017, 07:18 PM

Any 1.8 owner here? Need advise. Lady driver for daily use 😁

If u face traffic jam, i think 1.8 is better for you, as turbo follow oil life , u might need to service sc more than 1.8

Honda has been making turbo engine for ages, it's reliable but it's an extra cost. Buy it if you want to fork out the extra, for normal driving 1.8 will do.

The reviewer on Paultan reckoned that the 1.8 was a better buy since it has everything you need and is cheaper. However, the turbo version is outselling the 1.8 2/1 so it seems much more desirable in the Malaysian market. That will mean higher resale value. I guess it depends on your priorities.

I face traffic jam but would consider short distance. But yea i think will go for 1.8 as i wouldnt want to keep sending the car for services 😂 and cheaper price 😁

Agree on popularity of 1.5tc version. Hopefully i dont resell it in short term if it serves me well. From past record my 2nd hand city had followed me for 7yrs 😁 should be sticking on 1.8 as cheaper in price and maintenance.

Agree on popularity of 1.5tc version. Hopefully i dont resell it in short term if it serves me well. From past record my 2nd hand city had followed me for 7yrs 😁 should be sticking on 1.8 as cheaper in price and maintenance.

I think irregardless of 1.8 or 1.5T the resale value will be phenomenal

Just look at the 8th generation Civic. Over 10 years liao and it's still highly sought after. RM110k that time and only losing half of its value after 10-11 years.

Whereas the Preve for instance as comparison is also turbo and it's 1.6T. RM76k at retail but difficult to sell even at RM30k after just 3.5 years. It already lost over 60% value after 3 years.

You are comparing a potong to a Honda? You are buying these cars for resale value and not enjoyment?

Yeah, they always 1st is RV RV RV ,
Even though T & H brand, die die also must buy due to RV even is outdated / not advanced

VW,Renault ,Ford , Audi -->they will say workshop ,no RV

Kia, Hyundai -->they say no spare part , no RV

Other list ? -->

But it's true ma...Ford and VW brand is a regular at ws mah! Fark the RV!There is no official benchmarking of a resale value! Shiok sendiri only!

Hi. What's the latest rebate/promo/discount/package/offer for Civic 1.5 TCP?

any promotion for civic 1.8 ? in KL/selangor area
any feedback from civic owner

I've just watched a review of the Civic Sport on YouTube. It was by a British guy who was raving about it (he loved it). Is it coming to Malaysia? It looks cool with the black across the grille instead of chrome. He said it had 18x ps where as the Malaysian version makes 'only' 174 hp.

Is it really worth the 15k to upgrade? Does turbo has the same reliability as NA engine?

in dilemma, should I get 1.5 tc or 1.5 tcp.
is the led light really a must?

i felt navigation and dual auto air cond is nth worth upgrading.

I use waze all the time and most the time I am driving alone.
need some expert opinion and I plan to get modulo body kit too.