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give ur opinion, fake n ori ice stuff
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 16 2007, 01:08 PM, updated 19y ago
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hai there...
i realli confuse abt the fake n ori in ice component / speaker / ....
so i ask the ice shop near my hometown....
they say that no fake for component / speaker / ,....
( for tweeter they say have imitation )
they say that in malaysia has two types of ice stuff
local made and imported...
they say kicker,mtx,mb quart, soundstream n other brand now assemble in shah alam..
but people describe these local made as fake....
is it true.... ???
This post has been edited by squall_kay: Feb 16 2007, 01:19 PM
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mADmAN
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Feb 16 2007, 05:40 PM
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yes there are fakes in the market....they do exist.
ive seen an MTX comp set before... on the speaker the logo looks alot like the original MTX...but upon slightly closes inspection u can see that its actually MiX instead of MTX. even the shop where i saw it themselves say that its fake.
and since the shop near ur hometown says there no fake bla bla bla.... i personally wouldnt go back to that shop ever again.
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 16 2007, 06:56 PM
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brand oso MiX...dont need to ask shop lol ...
what i mean is fake is the item using same brand/model/shape...and price too..
have they exist in the market???
This post has been edited by squall_kay: Feb 16 2007, 07:17 PM
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craziechild
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Feb 16 2007, 07:29 PM
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yes... they do exist... and normally the price when you nego with the boss he will give you some sort of special discount or some freebies...
so get from authorized dealer and check with the distributor before buying a new gadjet...
cheers...
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 16 2007, 07:52 PM
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how to differentiate between those item...
the probs now is most of ice shop selling local product same price as imported
product...ex: local kicker price same as imported kicker price
that y they can give special price..
[ have solid prove abt this fake item... ???? ]
This post has been edited by squall_kay: Feb 16 2007, 08:12 PM
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craziechild
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Feb 17 2007, 06:34 PM
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my experience is with DLS Ultimate amps selling at two shop here in my place... one of them is an authorized dealer(the place where i work) and another one claimed to be one but is not...
what i did was call ProICE for verification whether the shop is recognized, and gave them the serial number of the amps ask them to check whether its in their system list... if both of this is clarified then it should be the ori ones...
and most products will require the installer to join in the product training or seminar before they could be authorized to carry the brand... so there should be some cert for the training...
hope this helps...
cheers...
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jimmylim85
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Feb 17 2007, 08:49 PM
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Even Mobile Auto Malaysia stop selling Soundstream XSC6 component speaker due to lots of fake being manufactured. Currently they brought a new version which is XTC6  Hope my Soundstream XTS6x9 is ori
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 17 2007, 09:32 PM
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i oso scare too...
hope not buy fake product with ori price...
i just wanna know how 2 recognize it???..like see the item cn know it is fake
or not..so difficult eh...
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Jason
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Feb 18 2007, 01:03 AM
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buy from authorized dealer...
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 18 2007, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Jason @ Feb 18 2007, 01:03 AM) buy from authorized dealer... the price damn high... SAVCOS authorized dealer for MOHAWK...ms6.2 component rm650
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craziechild
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Feb 18 2007, 02:10 PM
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thts the price you hav to pay... if you are not willing to pay for the price then buy the fake...
the DLS amps tht i mentioned are exaltly identical both ori and fake... mostly fake items are the internal material used... fake items use low quality parts while ori they use high quality parts... so normally you cannot see those internals... the seller would jus give excuse tht if open the casing will void the warranty...
cheers...
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 18 2007, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(craziechild @ Feb 18 2007, 02:10 PM) thts the price you hav to pay... if you are not willing to pay for the price then buy the fake... the DLS amps tht i mentioned are exaltly identical both ori and fake... mostly fake items are the internal material used... fake items use low quality parts while ori they use high quality parts... so normally you cannot see those internals... the seller would jus give excuse tht if open the casing will void the warranty... cheers... are u sure abt that.. like hp too...nokia by zitron..oso high price.. the ap one..price is lower.. but both of them ori rite... actually i but at mohawk component ms6.2 for rm280.. then i ask the worker...y SAVCOS price so high.. then he answer...mine is local product.... not a fake one lor... This post has been edited by squall_kay: Feb 18 2007, 04:10 PM
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AiRBooM
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Feb 22 2007, 01:57 PM
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nowadays ori products also made in china... so ori and fake(odm) no difference to me  of course i will still support branded stuff if the price is affordable This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Feb 22 2007, 01:58 PM
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jimmylim85
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Feb 22 2007, 02:05 PM
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even Soundstream product like those low range such as Xstream series are being manufactured in CHina factory while the high end such as Picasso and References series still being manufactured in US. But they always came made in USA cause is being finalized/hand crafted in US. If you're really looking into real imported and manufactured from their country, the price is going to be sky rocket
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TSsquall_kay
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Feb 23 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Feb 22 2007, 02:05 PM) even Soundstream product like those low range such as Xstream series are being manufactured in CHina factory while the high end such as Picasso and References series still being manufactured in US. But they always came made in USA cause is being finalized/hand crafted in US. If you're really looking into real imported and manufactured from their country, the price is going to be sky rocket  i know..what i want to state here is, product that cheap is cannot be determine as fake one.. i just here talk abt fake stuff from to mouth to mouth only....n that is from acc shop.. they never show me the diff and always claim cheap stuff as fake..
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driftmeister
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Feb 23 2007, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Feb 22 2007, 02:05 PM) even Soundstream product like those low range such as Xstream series are being manufactured in CHina factory while the high end such as Picasso and References series still being manufactured in US. But they always came made in USA cause is being finalized/hand crafted in US. If you're really looking into real imported and manufactured from their country, the price is going to be sky rocket  nowdays only the human reign is hand craft in USA others like lil' wonder, picasso, xtreme series are made in china factory while reference is discontinue long time ago
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howiechoo
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Feb 24 2007, 12:19 AM
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if anti china product, then should we throw away our car, home appliances and handphones?
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jimmylim85
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Feb 24 2007, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Feb 23 2007, 09:59 PM) nowdays only the human reign is hand craft in USA others like lil' wonder, picasso, xtreme series are made in china factory while reference is discontinue long time ago If you had check with Soundstream 2007 brochure, reference is still available.
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driftmeister
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Feb 24 2007, 12:30 PM
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kewl they decide to give up on the picasso and xtreme crap and reintroduce the reference series
but i still have doubt whether it is still being hand crafted in USA or mass production in china factory
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