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 ASX COUNTERS !, Everything related to the Aus Sec Exc !

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TSHansel
post Sep 12 2017, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 12 2017, 12:25 PM)
Bro..

thanks for the sharing. I will observe more. it is very different frm Sg reits where it will go up up and up..hardly wait it come down.
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Yeah,... hehe,... glad that you won't get caught like I was when I first started last year,... believe ti or not, this JUne FY-end,... I divested MOST of my holdings which I bought last year,... some cutloss, some profitted,... all bought 'wrongly',...

But I learnt along the way,....
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post Sep 15 2017, 11:13 AM

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Let s learn along the way.

Elea is joining us too soon.
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post Sep 16 2017, 04:14 PM

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In the ASX, there are companies which were setup to hold and manage specific funds ! Such entities are called Listed Investment Companies - LICs.

Following is an excerpt from a recent research done by an org called IIR - Independant Investment Research:-

For the reporting season just finished there were 24 listed investment companies covered by Independent Investment Research that reported full year results. Out of this 24, there were 14 LICs that experienced earnings declines. This reflected lower dividend income, particularly for those LICs that have capital account status, and also lower portfolio capital appreciation for those LICs that report changes in portfolio value as part of their earnings. Despite these earnings pressures, there were few reductions in dividends paid by LICs for the FY2017 period. This reflects the fact that most LICs have a level of profit reserves that enables them to smooth dividends by holding back when profits are strong. There were four LICs that reduced dividends, seven held flat and 12 increased. For more details refer to the attached Independent Investment Research LMI Monthly Update.

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Looks like our PNB Fixed-Price Funds up there,.... biggrin.gif

I have WAM and ALF,... sold-off AUP earlier,...
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post Sep 19 2017, 12:15 PM

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For those who are keen, the ctr MOC may be experiencing dips in the near term. MOC is Mortgage Choice Ltd,... a Home Mortgage Company,...

You can do your investigations personally of this company. My comments would be : great and steady yield. But pls put in some effort at least after seeing my humble tip here.

Some write-ups below why there will be pullbacks fro MOC :-

It's still party time for residential property mortgage brokers, despite the gatecrashers and party poopers trying to grab the punch bowl.

Five years of record-low interest rates, soaring property prices and dazzling profits are attracting more new entrants to the market than bidders to a weekend Sydney harbour-side auction.

A new generation of clever mobile phone app providers are offering cheaper and faster deals, reducing the entire mortgage qualifying process from days to minutes for the right borrowers.

Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the nation's largest lender, wants to increase sales through its bank branches and tighten control over other channels through buying the remaining stake in Aussie Loans, a leading broker network.

Westpac Banking Group, the second-largest lender, is rapidly digitising property conveyancing, which is likely to be integrated into some form of online loan-to-home process.

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post Sep 19 2017, 12:59 PM

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...yielding-market

Good times going to be over.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 19 2017, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Sep 19 2017, 12:59 PM)
That;s a great article, bro,... so happy to see this statement inside yr article : Australian investors have grown used to regular dividends. The ASX 200 is the top yielding benchmark among the 12 largest stock markets in the world.

Well,... that;s right,... TLS cut,.. it's okay,.. telco companies are cutting anywat,.. my Starhub also cut,.. and I've disposed already,...

I have some theorires on why not all companies will go this route,.. something to do with their superannuation plans and their compulsory retirement benefits if they have below 800K upon retirement,....

But not sure if my theory is right or not,... let's observe further if the Big 4 banks will lower their dpu in the coming years. But even if lower by 30% also, if our Buy price is low enough, coupled with the franking credits, it is still better than anywhere else.
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post Sep 23 2017, 10:42 AM

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For journalling in this thread on analysis of ASX LICs. All below are property of the writer, not mine biggrin.gif .....

I hope to enlighten potential investors about the tricks used by fund managers to ‘window dress’ their performance. Some of these tricks can be backed out and where possible I have provided the math below.

Before we begin, let’s define and recap the role of Index Funds. Index Funds are mutual funds seeking to replicate the performance of a specific Index. They are available on almost every benchmark imaginable. The primary benefit of an Index Fund is its very small management fee. This means they can replicate the performance of a benchmark very closely on an after-fees basis. It is therefore easy to compare all active managers against their applicable Index Fund. An Active Manager is a term used to describe a fund manager attempting to beat the benchmark through stock selection.

Active Managers generally charge a management fee together with a performance fee. Regardless of the fees charged, the relevant metric is after fees performance. An active manager needs to earn back his/her fees prior to being paid for performance. Unfortunately, this is not always the case, so investors need to be alert to manipulations around fees and performance. We discuss the major manipulations below.

Selecting a benchmark index without including dividends

This is the most commonly used trick by fund managers. When you hold a stock, you are entitled to the dividends the stock pays. Accordingly, when you buy an Index Fund, you are entitled to the dividends on the stocks in the Index. Dividends can make a huge difference to your long term investment performance. The benchmark used should include the dividends of the Index. To illustrate, I include the return on the All Ordinaries Index with and without dividends. The return with dividends is called the ASX All Ordinaries Accumulation Index.

For example, the return on the ASX All Ordinaries Index was 8.5% for the year ending 30 June 2017. The All Ordinaries Accumulation Index, which includes dividends, returned 13.1% for the year ending 30 June 2017. If a fund manager wants to overstate his/her performance then they choose the lower hurdle i.e. 8.5% instead of 13.1%. You should ensure that your manager’s benchmark includes dividends.

Quoting performance before fees

To make a clear comparison, fund managers should be quoting their performance after fees. This is a no brainer, however, you may be surprised that some professional managers do not quote their returns after fees. You may adjust their performance by deducting the management fee from their published performance. This will ensure you are comparing apples with apples when you rate the performance of an Index Fund or another Active Manager.

Failure to deduct the management fee prior to calculating the performance fee

Assume a fund manager charges a 1.5% management fee and a 15% performance fee. Assume that he/she delivered a 10.5% return before fees and the benchmark delivered a 9% return. The fund manager could take a performance fee based on 1.5% outperformance. However, if you subtract the base management fee of 1.5% from the performance, he/she would have delivered a 9% return. The 9% return would not be entitled to a performance fee. It is critically important that the management fee is deducted prior to calculating the performance fee. Stay alert to this one! It can make a significant difference over the long term.

Performance fees paid quarterly

The payment of performance fees is another area of concern. The most common abuse is to calculate and pay performance fees quarterly. For example, assume a fund’s unit price begins at $1.00, reaches $1.10 by the end of the first quarter, before falling and finishing the year at $1.00. In this example, the unit holder’s investment began and ended the year at $1.00 i.e. their units have not increased in value. If the fund manager pays his/her performance fee quarterly, they would have paid themselves a fee at the end of the first quarter, when the unit price reached $1.10. However, if they calculated their performance fee annually, no performance fee would be payable. Beware of performance fees paid quarterly!

I hope this makes sense and allows you to more effectively choose the best fund for you.
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:42 AM

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From observations this morning,... CMW's price kept inching lower and lower even with dvd payout ann't,....

Could be an effect of the failed IPO in Singapore ! Singapore's listing would be good for us, ASX investors,.. but may sound to be bad for SGX and Japanese investors,...
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post Oct 9 2017, 10:04 AM

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CMW has a practical approach,... this is good, and they like to have friendly transactions,....

Hoping they will announce that they are listing again in the SGX,... with a modified portfolio of assets and lower number of unit issuance,...

CROMWELL SELLS STAKE IN IOF

Cromwell Property Group (ASX:CMW) today announced that it has entered into an agreement to sell
its entire stake in Investa Office Fund (ASX:IOF) for $4.65 per unit.

Cromwell Property Securities Limited as responsible entity for the Cromwell Diversified Property Trust
purchased its 9.83% stake in IOF for $4.24 per unit on 12 April 2016. The agreed sale price of $4.65
per unit represents a premium to the IOF closing price on 3 October 2017 and an annualised Equity
Internal Rate of Return of 18%.


“The investment in IOF has been a profitable one for Cromwell,” said Cromwell Chief Executive Officer
Paul Weightman. We would have liked to have been able to complete a deal, but as I have said previously, it became
obvious to us that a friendly transaction was unlikely to proceed, regardless of the price that we
offered.”

“Upon careful consideration of all of our options, we have therefore decided that the best way forward
for Cromwell securityholders is to realise the value in our investment.”

“We will continue to focus on delivering value to our securityholders through the different strategic
initiatives that we are currently undertaking,” added Mr. Weightman.

The proceeds of the sale will be used to reduce gearing and for other general corporate purposes.

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post Oct 12 2017, 12:49 PM

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CMW's price has recovered and is slowly inching-up again after divesting IOF ! In spite of the failed listing on the SGX, it is still doing well in the ASX !

Touched a high of 1 AUD yesterday,... yes.
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The Bank-of-Queensland reported results today,....

Oct 12 (Reuters) - Bank Of Queensland Ltd (BOQ)

•FY profit attributable up 4 pct to $352 million
•FY net interest income $926 million versus $937 million
•As at Aug 31, CET1 ratio 9.39 pct
•Declared final dividend of 38 cents per share
•FY net interest margin 1.87 percent versus 1.94 percent

One more I will add : Dvd maintained the same as per last year's,... ie at 38 cps. BUT : a Special Dvd is given out, 6 cps,... hence, total dps = 46 cps this half-year,...

Nothing compared against a big rise of dvd payout given by CBA back in August earlier,...

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Actually,... I think it's not a really good set of results,... maybe the investors in Syd and Melb have diff ways of interpreting,... give this to our SG friends and the SP will plunge,..
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post Oct 12 2017, 02:30 PM

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http://www.marketindex.com.au/analysis/div...-9-october-2017



CMW Cromwell Property Group Stapled $0.97 8.60% 8.60% Sell -3.90%

BOQ Bank of Queensland Limited $12.89 5.90% 8.42%

BOQ div yield so low? and this is before tax...
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post Oct 12 2017, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 12 2017, 02:30 PM)
http://www.marketindex.com.au/analysis/div...-9-october-2017
CMW Cromwell Property Group Stapled $0.97 8.60% 8.60% Sell -3.90%

BOQ Bank of Queensland Limited $12.89 5.90% 8.42%

BOQ div yield so low? and this is before tax...
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BOQ : yeah,... if we are talking abt ust that 38c per half-year which works out to be abt 76c per year, at $12.89, the yield is only 5.90%.

This time round, because there was a 16m profit from the sale of a vendor entity this period, BOQ mgmt gave out a Special Dividend of 8c, making the total 2nd half dpu payout of 46c.

38c + 46c = 84c, and at a price of $13.09, closing this afternoon, the yield works out to be abt 6.42% net. I think the price will drop later-on when the investors start to digest the results,.... I believed among the regional banks, this is a good one. Another one would be MYS.

CMW : It touched a high of $1 yesterday,... I do see everywhere, everybody asks to sell,... biggrin.gif

Added : I spoke with some angmoh investors,... they said the bad memory came abt because CMW bought into some European assets said be toxic. Bought over from Blackstone Props earlier,... many unitholders did not agree,... but when my turn came to invest, things seemed okay.

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https://www.fool.com.au/2017/10/13/3-shares...idend-yields-2/

Telstra Corporation Ltd (ASX: TLS)

Mortgage Choice Limited (ASX: MOC)

G8 Education Limited (ASX: GEM)


go for which one?


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 15 2017, 06:13 PM)
https://www.fool.com.au/2017/10/13/3-shares...idend-yields-2/

Telstra Corporation Ltd (ASX: TLS)

Mortgage Choice Limited (ASX: MOC)

G8 Education Limited (ASX: GEM)
go for which one?
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For myself,....

1) TLS - I got out of it, don't know where the floor is anymore,..
2) MOC - still monitoring,..yeah,..
3) GEM - hard to understand, too volatile, too many events to take note of,.... recently changed its dvvy payout policy from 4x per yr to 2x only per yr,...
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post Oct 27 2017, 04:30 PM

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Public service ann't here : Go change money these two days if you have requirement for the AUD, SGD or USD. The RM will be strong this weekend because of the Budget 2018 Ann't which is running now.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 27 2017, 04:30 PM)
Public service ann't here : Go change money these two days if you have requirement for the AUD, SGD or USD. The RM will be strong this weekend because of the Budget 2018 Ann't which is running now.
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haha thank you. yeap.. RM getting stronger
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Oct 28 2017, 02:17 PM)
haha thank you. yeap.. RM getting stronger
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Yeah,...

May start to drop back slowly from tomorrow on,...

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