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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V42, BPL - Burnley 1 - 1 Chelsea

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post Jan 1 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jan 1 2017, 02:24 PM)
now that mou is on their side sure lah must protek protek.
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Lol and i thought most of them despise Mourinho's tactic and antics.

Many pundits also thought it was because of the manager's fault. Well rightly so, coz hes the one keep starting Ivanovic and not spending for proper reinforcement

But most of it was just injuries to key players, no squad depth. And internal scandal like Eva case wasnt handle properly. So he lost dressing room
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Jan 1 2017, 02:33 PM)
Lol and i thought most of them despise Mourinho's tactic and antics.

Many pundits also thought it was because of the manager's fault. Well rightly so, coz hes the one keep starting Ivanovic and not spending for proper reinforcement

But most of it was just injuries to key players, no squad depth. And internal scandal like Eva case wasnt handle properly. So he lost dressing room
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Not really lost dressing room in my pov. More like fatigue and no fitness. I not surprise if it happen to mu next 2 3 season if mu not spending on squad depth. We know mou love to use same player over and over. Since last season board refuse to give the players he want and gave unknown players. So he also refuse to play them. End up used the same player which lead to fatigue.

If the team really boikot mou, they should play very well under guus. after conte step in, we dont really show our best actually in the beginning (Especially swansea, liverpool and arsenal game). Hazard still on off. After changing formation to 343 + conte effect, he at his best again. So safe to say mou training method is giving them negative effects on long run. And yes scandal and injuries also the cause. But this is just my pov
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post Jan 1 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 1 2017, 02:06 PM)
Now got some fan in neighbour tered said our slump last season due to player boikot mou. They really should shut up if they dunno what happen actually.

IF boikot, why we still in slump even after interim manager guus took over?
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our squad has some overhauls compare to Mou's season, David luiz, Moses, M. Alonso and the mighty Kante, they are key players in Conte's 343 system

And 343 release Hazard from heavy defending duty, he is a freeman now

Not to mention our players step up when we need them... Costa, Pedro, Willian and even Fab

Conte dare to change system after liv and ars games and believe in new players such as Moses and Alonso, drop Terry, Iva, Oscar and Fab

I believe Mou and the players did their best to win last season, too bad cannot click and Roman think his time is up.... tragedy

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post Jan 1 2017, 04:23 PM

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i think it was mou strategy himself that bites him back

remember when we use 4-3-3 system (2004-2006)?

that time we have a really fast counter attacking football with 3 player up front

on his 2nd coming, he use 4-2-3-1 which is so predictable

if u see MU game this season, it's like a copy of our strategy last season. only different is mou got star players to use

but now i really like our new team. not coz of always winning, but due to passion n high work rate shown by players n manager
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post Jan 1 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Jan 1 2017, 02:33 PM)
Lol and i thought most of them despise Mourinho's tactic and antics.

Many pundits also thought it was because of the manager's fault. Well rightly so, coz hes the one keep starting Ivanovic and not spending for proper reinforcement

But most of it was just injuries to key players, no squad depth. And internal scandal like Eva case wasnt handle properly. So he lost dressing room
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But it's not only Ivanovic who was criticized. There was also Courtois to Cahill to Matic to Hazard. As you can see the problem really was from the front all the way to the back. And it was still evident early in the season. The problem was only really resolved when Conte changed to 3-4-3.
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 1 2017, 03:36 PM)
our squad has some overhauls compare to Mou's season, David luiz, Moses, M. Alonso and the mighty Kante, they are key players in Conte's 343 system

And 343 release Hazard from heavy defending duty, he is a freeman now

Not to mention our players step up when we need them... Costa, Pedro, Willian and even Fab

Conte dare to change system after liv and ars games and believe in new players such as Moses and Alonso, drop Terry, Iva, Oscar and Fab

I believe Mou and the players did their best to win last season, too bad cannot click and Roman think his time is up.... tragedy
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That bold part i agree. This system will not push our player to squeeze their stamina (except wing back imo). Really good system but it is not put to the test yet since we dont have CL this season.

Btw iinm its not roman who throw out mou but its the board. And roman had to agreed with it since the majority asked him to step down.
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I guess it's a combination of a lot of stuff. Eva's issue, players getting complacent after winning the league, teams are getting used to how we play, so heavily mark Matic n Fab, didn't get transfer target. Until the point where Roman say, ok, that's enough.

Mou is not the only reason imo. There are a lot of contributing factors.

This season i put it down to Conte having a full preseason ahead and give everyone a fair chance, including those who were on loan last season. Hence Moses were given a chance. And also Conte's passion is really second to none. I'm pretty sure his clothes is as sweaty as the players' jersey. U can see how animated and how passionate he is. If u are a player and u see ur manager so passionate, u will also want to give ur all on the field.
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post Jan 1 2017, 06:14 PM

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don't forget mourinho brought 3 titles to stamford bridge
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jan 1 2017, 07:14 PM)
don't forget mourinho brought 3 titles to stamford bridge
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he will forever be in our heart. nothing will be taken from him, but to be fair he also bring a lot of negativity and responsible for our worst season under Roman Empire.
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Transferwindow open and suddenly all rumors dead
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post Jan 2 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 2 2017, 10:41 AM)
Transferwindow open and suddenly all rumors dead
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got 60m... too many choices?

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post Jan 2 2017, 11:18 AM

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Spud was really on form lately. Should we got worried? huh.gif
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post Jan 2 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(din_hook @ Jan 2 2017, 11:18 AM)
Spud was really on form lately. Should we got worried? huh.gif
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I worry like hell
forget about record... a draw is acceptable
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 2 2017, 11:19 AM)
I worry like hell
forget about record... a draw is acceptable
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Win PL are more better than record. Draw would be good enough. But win is a bonus. Not to be over optimistic but i think we can win. Surely spurs will do something about our last meeting since both managers not depart in a good way. I hope conte plan something special. Btw i more worry about arsenal and liverpool. I want win for both gme to payback last time meeting 😁
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 2 2017, 12:19 PM)
I worry like hell
forget about record... a draw is acceptable
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Win..not because of the record, but for 3 points and keeping our gap with second place.

I think we are able to beat them, but need a huge performance from the players.

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 2 2017, 12:01 PM)
Win..not because of the record, but for 3 points and keeping our gap with second place.

I think we are able to beat them, but need a huge performance from the players.
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yep, Liverpool is maintaining the pressure on us. need to keep pushing for more points. cannot harap other ppl to drop points this season, all the big teams keep on grinding out points too.
i think we should do fine. coming into this game with full confidence from the players and full strength in our squad (no suspensions or injuries).

besides, its Spurs. we can beat them!
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post Jan 2 2017, 01:19 PM

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post Jan 2 2017, 01:39 PM

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OH NOOOOOOO
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 2 2017, 02:19 PM)
apa macam? hmm.gif
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it will be a huge surprise if it actually happens..and mikel will be off for sure..

oscar + mikel out in vidal..not too bad..

but not sure where to play him..we already have Kante, Matic, Cesc and Chalobah competing for 2 spots.


QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jan 2 2017, 02:39 PM)
OH NOOOOOOO
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yap..if Alonso unavailable..who should play as LWB?


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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 2 2017, 01:43 PM)
it will be a huge surprise if it actually happens..and mikel will be off for sure..

oscar + mikel out in vidal..not too bad..

but not sure where to play him..we already have Kante, Matic, Cesc and Chalobah competing for 2 spots.
yap..if Alonso unavailable..who should play as LWB?
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maybe 352, Kante & Vidal cover Fab

if Alaonso out, push Dave to LWB, Ivan/Zouma to RB

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